Broadcasters Face Tough Choice

[TheBigA]

All true, but: Clients in the salon can be limited to those being serviced at the time, others wait in their cars or outside until appointment time. Everything is swept, sprayed down and sanitized in between clients. Service providers and clients wear masks at all times.

The masks may help...depends on the mask and how they're worn.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a30677242/can-face-mask-prevent-coronavirus/

Part of the problem is the close proximity between the worker and the client. When you're that close, a cloth mask is pretty flimsy. Plus wouldn't the mask itself interfere with the haircut? Typically they ask clients to remove glasses. Full disclosure: my niece is a beautician.

 

[RadioGuy1864]

The masks may help...depends on the mask and how they're worn.

https://www.prevention.com/health/a30677242/can-face-mask-prevent-coronavirus/

Part of the problem is the close proximity between the worker and the client. When you're that close, a cloth mask is pretty flimsy. Plus wouldn't the mask itself interfere with the haircut? Typically they ask clients to remove glasses. Full disclosure: my niece is a beautician.

We actually were thinking of securing the clients mask to their face using medical tape, but that's just what were were discussing internally. Like all other salons we are awaiting guidance from the State board and Department of Health. Nothing has yet come down officially yet, except we are hearing definitely reductions in how many people allowed in the salon, stylists wearing masks and strong sanitation measures. Also walk-ins may discouraged or prohibited for the foreseeable future.

 

[TheBigA]

We actually were thinking of securing the clients mask to their face using medical tape, but that's just what were were discussing internally.

One other issue no one seems to be addressing is liability. If you tell your employees to come back to work and they get sick, who is liable?

 

[TheBigA]

in the salon, stylists wearing masks and strong sanitation measures. Also walk-ins may discouraged or prohibited for the foreseeable future.

Tonight on ABC News they showed video from Norway, where they've opened hair salons. They showed employees wearing full clear plastic face shields, if that's helpful to you. I think they said today was their first day for this. I saw news coverage where some states will open hair salons starting May 1.

 

[gr8oldies]

3 southern states have decided to open, including mine, which skipped the federal government's Phase 1 and 2 and gone directly to Phase 3. If the governor says "pandemic's over" and your business orders its employees back to work, how do you in it on the employer?

One other issue no one seems to be addressing is liability. If you tell your employees to come back to work and they get sick, who is liable?

 

[TheBigA]

3 southern states have decided to open, including mine, which skipped the federal government's Phase 1 and 2 and gone directly to Phase 3. If the governor says "pandemic's over" and your business orders its employees back to work, how do you in it on the employer?

Nobody knows. These are political decisions, not medical decisions. None of the governors checked with doctors. BTW I see your state has withheld 5 counties from opening, and yours is one of them.

 

[flybynight]

3 southern states have decided to open, including mine, which skipped the federal government's Phase 1 and 2 and gone directly to Phase 3. If the governor says "pandemic's over" and your business orders its employees back to work, how do you in it on the employer?

One of those is Georgia, run by a Gov who's a YUGE trump supporter. Same Gov actually found out at a press conference a couple weeks ago that the virus can be transmitted by asymptomatic people. I'll have to check with Guinness, but I believe he was actually the LAST guy to learn that. But hey, at least somebody finally told him! He was also one of the last to implement any shutdown/stay at home order....and will be the first to reopen.
What a sound decision. lol

Not doing much to dispel those intelligence stereotypes about our friends in the south!

 

[Rusty Bridges]

States can "open" anything they want. If customers stay home, nothing happens. The owners try to keep the lights on but there's minimal cash flow. One small business owner in Georgia opined, "the state wants us to open so they don't have to come through with the tax breaks and benefits that we're supposed to get." The mayor of Albany, Georgia, hard hit by the coronavirus isn't too pleased about Governor Kemp's order because he (the mayor) cannot opt out of it. So where's small town radio in all of this? Damned if they're in; damned if they're out.

 

[Kelly A]

States can "open" anything they want. If customers stay home, nothing happens. The owners try to keep the lights on but there's minimal cash flow. One small business owner in Georgia opined, "the state wants us to open so they don't have to come through with the tax breaks and benefits that we're supposed to get." The mayor of Albany, Georgia, hard hit by the coronavirus isn't too pleased about Governor Kemp's order because he (the mayor) cannot opt out of it. So where's small town radio in all of this? Damned if they're in; damned if they're out.

As it relates to Kemp and Georgia; Kemp has been waiting for a signal from POTUS to open things up. (Including tattoo parlors?) Kemp believed that signal came last week. Yesterday, POTUS commented that he wouldn't assume any responsibility if, after opening things up, Georgia infections spiked. POTUS mentioned that "his gut" was telling him that there wouldn't be a spike.

Doesn't exactly instill confidence...

 

[flybynight]

As it relates to Kemp and Georgia; Kemp has been waiting for a signal from POTUS to open things up. (Including tattoo parlors?) Kemp believed that signal came last week. Yesterday, POTUS commented that he wouldn't assume any responsibility if, after opening things up, Georgia infections spiked. POTUS mentioned that "his gut" was telling him that there wouldn't be a spike.

Doesn't exactly instill confidence...

Last I heard from the Orange Menace on this subject, he was actually criticizing Kemp for opening too soon! Trump really depends on his supporters having the memory of a flea.

Poor, poor Kemp. Never seen anybody walked off a plank that quickly!

 

[tbolt909]

Last I heard from the Orange Menace on this subject, he was actually criticizing Kemp for opening too soon! Trump really depends on his supporters having the memory of a flea.

Poor, poor Kemp. Never seen anybody walked off a plank that quickly!

Yesterday, Trump suggested that injecting disinfectant into a human body would treat or cure the Corona virus. He said this at a press conference. What's next? Some Tide Pod laundry detergent to cure cancer. It's absurd that broadcasters are expected to air this daily nonsense...

 

[PTBoardOp94]

Yesterday, Trump suggested that injecting disinfectant into a human body would treat or cure the Corona virus.

In a way he's right. If I get an injection of bleach into my veins it will kill the virus.

And me.

 

[davideduardo]

Yesterday, Trump suggested that injecting disinfectant into a human body would treat or cure the Corona virus. He said this at a press conference. What's next? Some Tide Pod laundry detergent to cure cancer. It's absurd that broadcasters are expected to air this daily nonsense...

The actual statement was "Is there a way we can do something like that" referring to the use of disinfectants.

He did not say to inject existing disinfectants into people. He was asking if there was a medical way to disinfect "like that".

His question was clumsy, poorly worded and less than well informed. But he did not suggest injecting existing disinfectants into people. He seemed to ask if there was some kind of disinfectant that could be developed for internal use, but he phrased it awkwardly.

I do understand why Trump attacks the media so much. This was a perfect example of taking words out of context and giving a meaning to them that was not there. The full statement is available from the transcript. And I was listening; his statement was kinda' simplistic and he should have just let the doctors talk... but he did not suggest ingesting Clorox, for gosh sake.

This is a classic case of improper context description. The statement and representative media story text lines should be in the next editions of college news textbooks.

 

[CTListener]

The actual statement was "Is there a way we can do something like that" referring to the use of disinfectants.

He did not say to inject existing disinfectants into people. He was asking if there was a medical way to disinfect "like that".

His question was clumsy, poorly worded and less than well informed. But he did not suggest injecting existing disinfectants into people. He seemed to ask if there was some kind of disinfectant that could be developed for internal use, but he phrased it awkwardly.

I do understand why Trump attacks the media so much. This was a perfect example of taking words out of context and giving a meaning to them that was not there. The full statement is available from the transcript. And I was listening; his statement was kinda' simplistic and he should have just let the doctors talk... but he did not suggest ingesting Clorox, for gosh sake.

This is a classic case of improper context description. The statement and representative media story text lines should be in the next editions of college news textbooks.

He asked if light (either ultraviolet or "very powerful") could be introduced internally "through the skin" or some other means, never specifically saying "injected," but he did suggest "injection" with regard to disinfectant. He is very clever in that way, always including a "perhaps" or a "people tell me" to give himself an out, and his defenders another "gotcha" to reinforce the narrative that the news media are up to something sinister and illegal. It also helped his cause that none of the doctors with him at yesterday's presser was miked while the president was speaking, not that Birx was going to do anything but sit there and look as if she wanted to be anywhere else anyway. He asked the medical people questions and they either didn't respond, their response was inaudible, or Trump talked over their response.

As for the media's place in future textbooks, would you rather they be mentioned in the section on Pravda and Granma, or the section on the Washington Post and New York Times?

 

[SirRoxalot]

Boy, has this thread devolved into political BS. Perhaps some judicious pruning would get it back on the topic of broadcasting.

 

[frankberry]

Time to close this thread.

 

[davideduardo]

As for the media's place in future textbooks, would you rather they be mentioned in the section on Pravda and Granma, or the section on the Washington Post and New York Times?

I'm subscribed to both of the US journals. I don't think I'd want to venture within 2000 miles of one of their journalists.

I try to read some of about 11 or 12 papers daily from locations including London, Madrid, Milan, Buenos Aires, Mexico City, San Juan as well as NYC, DC, LA, Palm Springs and the WSJ.

Lately, I have been reading El Telegrafo from Guayaquil, where the highest percentage of Coronavirus deaths in the world seems to be taking place... as much as 10 times the "official" figure.

Granma is a news agency, the official organ of a political party and Pravda was formerly the publication of the Russian communist party. Both are controlled by a political movement and are not comparable to independent US newspapers.