It’s really rare to hear anything on 94.9 around the KYBY area. Both stations are first-adjacent short spaced to KHJK which is about as strong as KOVE and KGLK. They’re also first-adjacent short spaces to the KNTH translator. But I don’t know anything about the separation requirements, just making observations that I think those would be better than the current 103.5.
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103.5 KYBY and KCYB interference in Magnolia
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I have heard it during tropos loud and clear by 45 around the Conroe area, no interference that I could tell from that station. Now today KYBY was off and I could hear KBPA battling KCYB a bit further away from KCYB. I didn’t get to listen to 103.5 that much and I know there was some tropos happening so I don’t know if KBPA is usually that strong around that area or not. I’ll check tomorrow if KYBY is still off tomorrow and get more footage for another video.
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cotton belt
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That's the thing, I don't believe the KJOJ signal needs to cover Houston, given the strength of Beaumont's KTJM inside the city itself. In my experience, 98.5 is the strongest of the rimshots from the Golden Triangle. Still, Katy and west, Sugarland and southwest, are beyond the limitations of 98.5's signal reach. A move of KJOJ toward El Campo, or even Columbus, solves the biggest problem with the 103.3 signal, which is a sizable portion of the signal covering water. It just needs to reach the exploding far western Harris and Fort Bend counties, which can be done while maintaining proper distance from both of the 2nd adjacents. It seems more of a plausibility with the downgraded KBPA and KXAI on the way, coupled with new management and a fresh direction for the one time LBI.
KJOJ 103.3 does reach Ft Bend and west Harris Counties, until it reaches the beltway where K277DE with 250 watts overtakes the signal. I live in Ft Bend and hear it very good. Plus, travel the Lanier Parkway a lot and it comes in great until it reaches US290 where it's overtaken by the aforementioned translator.
ThatVoice22
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The original intention of LPFM service can never be realized without effective FCC enforcement which seems to be nonexistent, so the non-compliant signals are rewarded.
The original intention of LPFM service can never be realized without effective FCC enforcement which seems to be nonexistent, so the non-compliant signals are rewarded. as quoted by ThatVoice22
I find this a very insensitive statement that seems to imply only LPFM operators are operating outside licensed parameters and because they are LPFM will always ignore FCC Rules. True, some are not following the rules but the same can be said for all classes of stations.
The real intent of LPFM is a hyper local radio service. They're only licensed to non-profits and are one to a customer only if they are not involved at a decision making level for any other class of licensed media.
I find this a very insensitive statement that seems to imply only LPFM operators are operating outside licensed parameters and because they are LPFM will always ignore FCC Rules. True, some are not following the rules but the same can be said for all classes of stations.
The real intent of LPFM is a hyper local radio service. They're only licensed to non-profits and are one to a customer only if they are not involved at a decision making level for any other class of licensed media.
ThatVoice22
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No insensitivity intended – this is more accurate and inclusive:
The original intention of "all radio services" can never be realized without effective FCC enforcement which seems to be nonexistent, so the non-compliant signals are rewarded."
Bottom line: All compliant radio operators are stepped on by illegal ones.
The original intention of "all radio services" can never be realized without effective FCC enforcement which seems to be nonexistent, so the non-compliant signals are rewarded."
Bottom line: All compliant radio operators are stepped on by illegal ones.
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cotton belt
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If you find yourself over in Smith County, Mr. Turner, I'd like to shake your hand and buy you a cold one. Right on point, every single word. This is exactly the intended purpose of the LPFM service, and why I felt obligated to say something on the behalf of Tom Conley and his Backyard Radio in Magnolia a few days back. There are bad operators in all classes, both in radio and in television.
What's that old saying? You don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
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cotton belt
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It's usually out of my character to even respond to a statement such as this, but it needs to be said. Not my place to interject, perhaps, but you are trolling, plain and simple. If you honestly believe what you have written, then you are completely and utterly clueless about how the process works.
There's yet another old saying that I suddenly feel is specifically needed for you to read, my fellow Texan. Sometimes, it's better to remain quiet and let people think you are a fool, than to speak up and confirm the suspicion.
Not true. The procedure with the FCC is that they initiate most enforcement based on a formal complaint. As soon as one is registered, they investigate. They don't have the staff to check each licensed station in every service every hour of every day.
This is no different than the fire department. They don't have firemen driving around looking for fires to put out. They expect fires to be reported,a nd they they step into action.
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AnyHuman
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Not all, many.
ThatVoice22
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Several folks seem to be very upset about this sentence that I posted earlier:
"Bottom line: All compliant radio operators are stepped on by illegal ones."
Not one word of that is offensive, it’s just a statement of basic fact.
Good guys are compliant, but if some bad guys are non-compliant, they are stepping on the licensed territory of the good guys. Transmitting above the FCC-authorized power output is illegal and damages the compliant stations which operate at the proper level. There are references on that topic every week on here, so why this issue seems to have hit a nerve is a mystery.
Operating out of compliance on purpose is the same as stealing someone else’s property. Last time I checked, that would be illegal. The FCC rarely takes enforcement action, so the bad guys win and the good guys lose. That’s simply another unavoidably true statement. It’s no different from any other aspect of life: bad guys win if no one takes action to stop it.
"Bottom line: All compliant radio operators are stepped on by illegal ones."
Not one word of that is offensive, it’s just a statement of basic fact.
Good guys are compliant, but if some bad guys are non-compliant, they are stepping on the licensed territory of the good guys. Transmitting above the FCC-authorized power output is illegal and damages the compliant stations which operate at the proper level. There are references on that topic every week on here, so why this issue seems to have hit a nerve is a mystery.
Operating out of compliance on purpose is the same as stealing someone else’s property. Last time I checked, that would be illegal. The FCC rarely takes enforcement action, so the bad guys win and the good guys lose. That’s simply another unavoidably true statement. It’s no different from any other aspect of life: bad guys win if no one takes action to stop it.
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cotton belt
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What you are saying is not "a statement of basic fact", TV22, it is pure hyperbole. Not all licensed facilities are receiving interference from rogue translators. Not even many, as someone else mentioned. You've got a group down there in Houston, who also has several more translators in Dallas BTW, who is already on record for previous infractions and violations. Of course, there's a new name on name on the license, so the process begins anew. You can't hold her accountable for the sins of the ex-husband. That does not make every single LPFM or translator owner one in the same with this group.
Roy Henderson has previously addressed this translator's interference to KTWL once. I can not imagine a world where he doesn't address the ex-wife in the same manner.
They are called proper procedures, TV22.
A licensee who is receiving interference to their own station has to go through them to get that action of which you speak.
Roy Henderson has previously addressed this translator's interference to KTWL once. I can not imagine a world where he doesn't address the ex-wife in the same manner.
They are called proper procedures, TV22.
A licensee who is receiving interference to their own station has to go through them to get that action of which you speak.
No, that is not a fact. It is an enormous exaggeration.
There are around 18,000 licensed stations (including translators) in the US. Just a handful do unlicensed things, just as there is a handful of pirate stations.
In 28 years in Southern California I have only heard one pirate, been told about a couple more, and never heard of a licensed station operating outside of its licensed values. Yes, I may have missed one or two but overall there are few incidents of operations outside of the parameters of stations in this area that has nearly 20 million people.
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AnyHuman
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Why aren't you filing complaints and taking actions against KCYB and other stations? The FCC only will stop the interference if they're told about it. Discussing it on this forum doesn't necessarily alert the FCC.
There are spots in KCYB's protected contour where KYBY interferes as well. I doubt either is overpowering because the risk is too great. You might think the FCC does nothing but they function like other government entities: they don't jump until they have you backed in a corner with evidence you can't dispute. Many times that appears to be no action but when the shoe finally drops, you find yourself nailed to the wall without a hammer (aka up a creek without a paddle). FM signals can do interesting things. The theoretical coverage is not always real life. If something isn't right, it will come to light.
It really is irritating when folks that are not in the business or don't understand some of the engineering side make accusations. It's irritating when you work hard to be FCC compliant and somebody without any knowledge says otherwise and backs it up with nobody follows the rules. That includes those that think because a station is blocking a 100 mile distant FM you could barely hear 5 years ago is somehow illegal. You realize they have a license with the engineering work approved by the FCC and said station is fully complaint. Maybe you could complain to car dealers about how the roads are too congested because you never ran in to traffic on a certain road at some point in the past. By your logic, the car dealers would be selling cars illegally and drivers with their drivers license are driving illegally.
It really is irritating when folks that are not in the business or don't understand some of the engineering side make accusations. It's irritating when you work hard to be FCC compliant and somebody without any knowledge says otherwise and backs it up with nobody follows the rules. That includes those that think because a station is blocking a 100 mile distant FM you could barely hear 5 years ago is somehow illegal. You realize they have a license with the engineering work approved by the FCC and said station is fully complaint. Maybe you could complain to car dealers about how the roads are too congested because you never ran in to traffic on a certain road at some point in the past. By your logic, the car dealers would be selling cars illegally and drivers with their drivers license are driving illegally.
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