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WHLI am 1100

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I was downashore today.( Long Beach Island )and this Long Island station was coming in fairly well on my portable. This is an unusually good oldies station. I’ve listened previous times down there and it rarely disappoints. It’s sounds terrific , there’s adequate compression and my tsl was a few intermittent hours. Better than WMID which rips off a computer. Philadelphia needs something like them .
Anyone here listen to WHLI ?
 
djl said:
Good music but they should go HD
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The general opinion is that once they get the translator going, they will sell the station. It isn't and won't be profitable due to the demos and the fact that the NYC market is so agency driven. And it is not even subscribed to Nielsen and not even encoded!

I think it will be sold and become an ethnic station... Russian, Farsi, Kreyol or whatever.
 
Is the translator supposed to be on FM? If so, are they still planning to use 104.7, as there is a low power station on 104.7 from 1WTC (the only FM from 1WTC)?
 
djl said:
Good music but they should go HD
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I'm guessing this was a joke because I cannot see how it could have been stated in a serious manner during a pandemic where revenue is so far off the mark AND the fact that HD serves little benefit to a platform (the AM band) that is taking one step closer to extinction as each day passes... what company would spend money on turning a Daytimer into an HD facility? my apologies *if* you were joking...

It will be interesting to see what happens to 104.7 if/when the facility is built between tropo from WELJ/WSPK and the WTC signal on the interference front. If they can get solid coverage in their immediate footprint with the translator then that should help in making them a 24/7 operation but its certainly not a panacea.
 
Interesting how the directional signal basically covers the ocean, not much land, so it almost accidently reaches the Jersey shore.
 
Wasn’t joking. I didn’t think they were on the brink. I do think AM HD offers better sound quality and now that WCBS and WINS killed their HD there are no more HD AM’s in the area (unless you can lock in 1080 WTIC Hartford or 1210 WPHT Philadelphia). The 104.7 signal from 1WTC is very directional and only uses 99 watts. I can only receive it using my directional FM antenna in my attic.
 
TheBigA said:
Interesting how the directional signal basically covers the ocean, not much land, so it almost accidently reaches the Jersey shore.
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It also gets out into central and eastern Connecticut for about 25 miles from the shoreline. No problems receiving it on my car radio in Meriden.
 
djl said:
Wasn’t joking. I didn’t think they were on the brink. I do think AM HD offers better sound quality and now that WCBS and WINS killed their HD there are no more HD AM’s in the area (unless you can lock in 1080 WTIC Hartford or 1210 WPHT Philadelphia). The 104.7 signal from 1WTC is very directional and only uses 99 watts. I can only receive it using my directional FM antenna in my attic.
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You're not incorrect about the sound but is it really worth the expense to upgrade a facility to HD when it's only broadcast from Sunrise to Sunset with so few in possession of HD Radios or even know what HD Radio actually is? From business and practicality purposes the answer is obvious. Also it should be noted as to why so many are no longer broadcasting in HD and shutting off the exciters. It would be MUCH more inexpensive to build out the translator and make that the focal point for WHLI. As for the WTC co-channel, yes its directional but at that height, in the directions it is permitted to send the signal, it gets out fairly well and it does carry to the east towards WHLI's granted CP for 104.7 so there will be issues once that comes on in terms of signal erosion for both operators...
 
Engineers here (and conductors and coal tenders) would know the feasibility of WHLI applying for one watt nighttime, for after sunset. There are a few former daytimers who already have been issued microscopic nighttime licenses. Some of them subsequently used them solely to feed an FM.

Heck -- if Cleveland so far has exhibited no dismay in WHLI's 10,000 watt nighttime operation, one or two watts broadcasting on 1100 has to be way down their list of concerns. And the proposed 104.7 translator has to be even lower on the concern list.

No doubt I'm missing something here. But can WHLI apply for a real low-power nighttime license?
 
Steve Green NEPA said:
Engineers here (and conductors and coal tenders) would know the feasibility of WHLI applying for one watt nighttime, for after sunset. There are a few former daytimers who already have been issued microscopic nighttime licenses. Some of them subsequently used them solely to feed an FM.

Heck -- if Cleveland so far has exhibited no dismay in WHLI's 10,000 watt nighttime operation, one or two watts broadcasting on 1100 has to be way down their list of concerns. And the proposed 104.7 translator has to be even lower on the concern list.

No doubt I'm missing something here. But can WHLI apply for a real low-power nighttime license?
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You dont need any night time power on AM to have an fm translator and run it 24/7
 
TheBigA said:
They would have to change from Class D to Class B.
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You can get minimal (under 250 watts) night power as a class D, albeit as a secondary service without any protection from interference.

But you don't need it in order to run a 24-hour translator. And at the distance from WHLI to class A WTAM, night power would be extremely minimal and almost surely not worth even the most minimal effort.
 
Steve Green NEPA said:
Engineers here (and conductors and coal tenders) would know the feasibility of WHLI applying for one watt nighttime, for after sunset. There are a few former daytimers who already have been issued microscopic nighttime licenses. Some of them subsequently used them solely to feed an FM.

Heck -- if Cleveland so far has exhibited no dismay in WHLI's 10,000 watt nighttime operation, one or two watts broadcasting on 1100 has to be way down their list of concerns. And the proposed 104.7 translator has to be even lower on the concern list.

No doubt I'm missing something here. But can WHLI apply for a real low-power nighttime license?
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In Cleveland, no one's home at WTAM 1100. It being an iheart station, they're busy pumping in stuff from WLW in Cincy at least on the weekends. So they may not even know if THEY'RE on the air let alone if anyone else may be infringing on their signal.
 
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