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K-Earth at 6.5, August 2020

oldies76

oldies76

K-Earth 101 has reached a new high with a 6.5 and in first place, steadily climbing since the spring months. With a playlist of roughly 250-300 different and frequently played titles (some 70's, mostly 80's and select 90's), including the songs they play during Totally 80's, it's hard to imagine an outcome to this magnitude could occur, but it did. Congratulations to them.

Once thing though, with the many people stuck at home during COVID-19 and less venturing out, this was the anticipated outcome.


And playing the 645 Los Angeles surveyed #1 songs (1955-1985) this holiday weekend at home, commercial free is even a better outcome, something that they should have kept at some capacity today. Enjoy your Labor Day Weekend!!

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oldies76 said:
K-Earth 101 has reached a new high with a 6.5 and in first place, steadily climbing since the spring months. With a playlist of roughly 250-300 different and frequently played titles (some 70's, mostly 80's and select 90's), including the songs they play during Totally 80's, it's hard to imagine an outcome to this magnitude could occur, but it did. Congratulations to them.
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Actually, the weekly list is about 330 songs, +/- 10 songs and the monthly total is around 550. If there is a special show, such as the holiday weekend features, the count will not be typical. The median year of the library is 1983 based on plays, not in individual songs.

Once thing though, with the many people stuck at home during COVID-19 and less venturing out, this was the anticipated outcome.
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AQH persons is still 30% below the Sept-Dec 2019 level. So you are correct; a severe decline in listening levels was to be expected. Most stations have felt the same impact in some way or another.

And playing the 645 Los Angeles surveyed #1 songs (1955-1985) this holiday weekend at home, commercial free is even a better outcome, something that they should have kept at some capacity today. Enjoy your Labor Day Weekend!!
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Holiday weekends have notoriously low listening levels. With the virus impeding social gatherings and outings, I suspect it will be worse this year. Indeed, doing that song special may be like putting paddles on a patient with no pulse on this weekend.

Worth noting that KRTH had a totally deviant Week 1 in August, with its 25-54 share about 20% above the norm. They will lose that going into September. And that big week covered up for totally average weeks 2, 3 and 4. So, from my perspective, this was a freak upward wobble.
 
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TheBigA said:
Ironically they lost about 1900 in cume from July.
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You mean 190,000?

And compared to the three months prior to December / Christmas they are off 490,000 in cume in just 25-54 and by a biiiiig 800,000 in 12+.

A common occurrence when P2's and below are lost is that you get greater quarter hour average listening per listener as the remaining listeners are P1 and use the station more.
 
DavidEduardo said:
Holiday weekends have notoriously low listening levels. With the virus impeding social gatherings and outings, I suspect it will be worse this year. Indeed, doing that song special may be like putting paddles on a patient with no pulse on this weekend.
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They are doing the Totally 80's weekend again this year. Btw, the last time that number one special aired on K-Earth was Labor Day 1990 and it was an abbreviated version, just songs through 1973.

Enjoy your weekend.
 
oldies76 said:
They are doing the Totally 80's weekend again this year. Btw, the last time that number one special aired on K-Earth was Labor Day 1990 and it was an abbreviated version, just songs through 1973.

Enjoy your weekend.
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Just caught a few minutes of Sirius XM's "Top 700 of the Seventies" countdown earlier today. I think they were somewhere in the mid-six hundreds when they got to "Falling" by LeBlanc and Carr (a real lost hit) and "The Streak" by Ray Stevens played back to back. The only way I can see those songs making the countdown is either (1) they must really be counting the votes and someone is messing with them, or (2) they purposely put some rare gold to make it sound authentic.

No way "Falling",which is almost never played, made even a top 2000 of the Seventies by real votes cast be real listeners, and my personal belief is radio, even Sirius, doesn't really count votes (that is radio "Theater of the Mind"); they play the usual playlist in a different order, so I tend to lean towards number 2. But nice pulls anyway, Sirius.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
Just caught a few minutes of Sirius XM's "Top 700 of the Seventies" countdown earlier today. I think they were somewhere in the mid-six hundreds when they got to "Falling" by LeBlanc and Carr (a real lost hit) and "The Streak" by Ray Stevens played back to back.
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My view is The Streak fits the cultural narrative of the period. I've seen several TV documentaries on the 70s and they all played The Streak. I don't know the other song.
 
oldies76 said:
They are doing the Totally 80's weekend again this year. Btw, the last time that number one special aired on K-Earth was Labor Day 1990 and it was an abbreviated version, just songs through 1973.
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And we could not, of course, see the individual days or even the week back then. "Trends" were a full month added and the oldest of three dropped. In the diary, that weekend apparently did not help the month; they did have a decent Summer book, though (compared to being outside the top 20 before and after).

This will be the first time we got to see the individual and combined days of a special like that in the format. Which makes me wonder if they even looked at the 30-year-old data (they probably do not even have it).

I looked at the data, and I would not have repeated that concept, ever.

In Spring of 1990 KRTH had a 1.9. Summer got them a 2.4 and then Winter returned to a 1.9. For the year, they were barely in the top 20 stations, so imitating anything they did that year seems like drinking a big glass of the Cool-Aid.
 
oldies76 said:
They are doing the Totally 80's weekend again this year. Btw, the last time that number one special aired on K-Earth was Labor Day 1990 and it was an abbreviated version, just songs through 1973.
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I gave it a try via Alexa. After 8 consecutive minutes of commercials and a song I did not like, I went back to my playlist.
 
DavidEduardo said:
And we could not, of course, see the individual days or even the week back then. "Trends" were a full month added and the oldest of three dropped. In the diary, that weekend apparently did not help the month; they did have a decent Summer book, though (compared to being outside the top 20 before and after).

This will be the first time we got to see the individual and combined days of a special like that in the format. Which makes me wonder if they even looked at the 30-year-old data (they probably do not even have it).

I looked at the data, and I would not have repeated that concept, ever.

In Spring of 1990 KRTH had a 1.9. Summer got them a 2.4 and then Winter returned to a 1.9. For the year, they were barely in the top 20 stations, so imitating anything they did that year seems like drinking a big glass of the Cool-Aid.
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I think one of the problems in 1990 is that both KRTH and KODJ were both using the slogan "The best oldies on the radio" and this may have confused listeners.
 
ChannelFlipper said:
Just caught a few minutes of Sirius XM's "Top 700 of the Seventies" countdown earlier today. I think they were somewhere in the mid-six hundreds when they got to "Falling" by LeBlanc and Carr (a real lost hit) and "The Streak" by Ray Stevens played back to back. The only way I can see those songs making the countdown is either (1) they must really be counting the votes and someone is messing with them, or (2) they purposely put some rare gold to make it sound authentic.

No way "Falling",which is almost never played, made even a top 2000 of the Seventies by real votes cast be real listeners, and my personal belief is radio, even Sirius, doesn't really count votes (that is radio "Theater of the Mind"); they play the usual playlist in a different order, so I tend to lean towards number 2. But nice pulls anyway, Sirius.
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I would lean to #2 also. "Falling", one of those slow, sappy types from around 1978, about as lost as Debbie Boone! Was that 10 weeker in your countdown?
 
DavidEduardo said:
I looked at the data, and I would not have repeated that concept, ever.
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Well, 1990 was the last year it aired and in decline. I only found out in 1991, when it DIDN'T air. They did some Double-play weekend of sort, if memory serves. I was really bummed.
 
There were a couple of folks keeping track of the Sirius 70s on 70 Top 700 on Memorial Day weekend and there were a few repeats, a song would be in the 600s then appear again closer to the top of the list.



ChannelFlipper said:
Just caught a few minutes of Sirius XM's "Top 700 of the Seventies" countdown earlier today. I think they were somewhere in the mid-six hundreds when they got to "Falling" by LeBlanc and Carr (a real lost hit) and "The Streak" by Ray Stevens played back to back. The only way I can see those songs making the countdown is either (1) they must really be counting the votes and someone is messing with them, or (2) they purposely put some rare gold to make it sound authentic.

No way "Falling",which is almost never played, made even a top 2000 of the Seventies by real votes cast be real listeners, and my personal belief is radio, even Sirius, doesn't really count votes (that is radio "Theater of the Mind"); they play the usual playlist in a different order, so I tend to lean towards number 2. But nice pulls anyway, Sirius.
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semoochie said:
I'm surprised that you don't know "Falling". It was played to death on AC for at least 20 years! https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...E1573896E23E2F9E2505E1573896E23E2&FORM=WRVORC
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It was a staple on "Love Songs on the KOST" during the 80s (Don't ask me how I know that), and as love songs go, it is really sappy (It sounds a lot like an England Dan and John Ford Coley record) , but I like it a lot and listen to it on the rare times it gets played these days.

As for the Sirius 700 countdown, it isn't the top anything. In fact it is clearly being used to throw on a lot of titles that aren't usually in the rotation, and whadaya know, the station sounds A LOT BETTER because of it. Way to go Sirius!

BTW, I originally brought this up so Oldies can have something to listen to this weekend.
 
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oldies76 said:
I would lean to #2 also. "Falling", one of those slow, sappy types from around 1978, about as lost as Debbie Boone! Was that 10 weeker in your countdown?
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It is amazing the Debbie gets no love after having the number one hit for the entire decade - 10 weeks at number one! You don't get to be 10 weeks at number one unless a lot of people love your song and are willing to pay for it. But they say there is a thin line between love and hate and after 1978 the record was almost never heard from again, despised by all of the taste makers who deemed it unworthy. It must be surreal for Debbie to have a 10-week chart topper that no one wants to hear, and at least two generations now have never heard.
 
TheBigA said:
She can share a pity party with Billy Ray Cyrus.
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Billy Ray cannot even be invited to the party. He is a one-hit wonder whose hit never topped the charts. Carly Simon can join her though. Carly had a string of Top 40 hits in the 70s and 80s and even more success on the AC charts, but can't get a spin anywhere these days. "Your So Vain" still gets referred to a lot by Boomers and my generation, but nobody is playing it except for 70s on 7.
 
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