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WABC change program again

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Frank Morano announced this morning that Cousin Bruce will be getting an additional hour till 10 P. M. to be followed by Tony Orlando hosting more music till 1 A. M. Further, Morano says WABC is talking to Joe Piscopo about hosting a Sinatra Sunday evening music show. He did not say how that would mesh with Piscopo’s morning show on WNYM.
 
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Oldies??

Frank Morano announced this morning that Cousin Bruce will be getting an additional hour till 10 P. M. to be followed by Tony Orlando hosting more music till 1 A. M. Further, Morano says WABC is talking to Joe Piscopo about hosting a Sinatra Sunday evening music show. He did not say how that would mesh with Piscopo’s morning show on WNYM.

I believe this could lead to an Oldies format despite the Talk Shows during the week.

Correct me on this.
 
I believe this could lead to an Oldies format despite the Talk Shows during the week.

Correct me on this.

The Saturday and Sunday evening times are the lowest usage hours of radio all week. So anything that can be done there to attract some attention is valid. But AM is not a good music medium and I suspect that the shows on WABC will get as much or more on-line listening than over the air tune-ins since AM sounds so bad for music.

This is not a trend; it is a novelty.
 
Nice. And make a 24/7 WABC music stream during talkradio hours as a substream. So when you like the WABC music and imaging going to that tribute channel.
 
That does not have to be expensive at all. There are more radio stations with substreams. It doesn't have to have full programming so they can make it as expensive as they want.
 
That does not have to be expensive at all. There are more radio stations with substreams. It doesn't have to have full programming so they can make it as expensive as they want.

If a music stream is placed on the web, it will pay music royalties based on pairs of ears. Without likely revenue, what is the advantage?
 
That does not have to be expensive at all. There are more radio stations with substreams.

Are there? I'm not aware of any, excluding stations which stream one of their HD subchannels online.
 
Only if they charge a membership fee, perhaps $20 a month, for access to the stream.

No ad revenue. Not a lot of online advertisers targeting people over 65.

Sounds like a dud for me. My guess is that nobody would pay $2, let alone $20!! It’s a fun little novelty, but that’s about it.
 
Are there? I'm not aware of any, excluding stations which stream one of their HD subchannels online.

There are many cases, mostly in Europe, of having stream variants of the main broadcast format. A good example is the Classic Hits FM in France (not a network... just several hundred full power and fill in repeaters) which has mainstream gold on its on-air stations, and then has 6 variants as streams. I like the 60's and early 70's Top 40 hits version, but there are several other good ones. They even have one that had all the late 60's to early 80's hits from Italy, which is my favorite along with the French equivalent.

https://www.nostalgie.fr/ and the 6 or 7 subformats are lined up at the very bottom. If you go to the linked page, there are nearly 50 different formats... from one station.
 
Curious, do you know how Europe's streaming royalty rates on broadcasters compare to the rates in the U.S.? That's what really kills it here.

That's a good question. A friend of mind ran a streaming radio station based in Ireland, and he ultimately had to geofence the station from the US because the royalties were too high compared to UK. I don't know if that was the SoundExchange side or the songwriters side.
 
That's a good question. A friend of mind ran a streaming radio station based in Ireland, and he ultimately had to geofence the station from the US because the royalties were too high compared to UK. I don't know if that was the SoundExchange side or the songwriters side.

I can also vouch anecdotally for the excesses of US royalties. I'd found a stream I liked in the north of England that plays hits and album cuts of the '60s through '90s, along with country and reggae specialty shows, but then one day the stream didn't work. I wrote to the station's operator and was told he couldn't afford to stream to the US anymore but was trying to work something out. Yes, it was the US specifically; he has Lincolnshire expats in places like Brazil and Germany as regular listeners and they were never blocked. Shortly into the pandemic, the stream's geofence came down, to my gratitude, and remains down. I never have asked him what had changed, money-wise. I'll try to do so next time I listen and he's doing a show.
 
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