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Radio One dealing...KROI fate?

I'd be really surprised. These multi-market deals always seem to be one and done. If it was going to happen, it would have happened today.

This one was surprising and they kept it quiet until announcement. I think you are right that if a deal to send KROI to Entercom was going to happen then it would have been part of this trade. It doesn't mean that KROI isn't being shopped around though for a sale or trade with another group.

As far as trades go, I'm still surprised no one has figured out a deal for KRBE. It's such an oddity of a large group owning one station in a major market for years and years. It would fit nicely with iHeart or Entercom's clusters and Cumulus could get multiple whole clusters in geographically diverse locations in exchange.
 
This one was surprising and they kept it quiet until announcement. I think you are right that if a deal to send KROI to Entercom was going to happen then it would have been part of this trade. It doesn't mean that KROI isn't being shopped around though for a sale or trade with another group.

As far as trades go, I'm still surprised no one has figured out a deal for KRBE. It's such an oddity of a large group owning one station in a major market for years and years. It would fit nicely with iHeart or Entercom's clusters and Cumulus could get multiple whole clusters in geographically diverse locations in exchange.

With them building a really expensive new transmitter site for KROI, I have to think Radio One is planning to hold onto it for a while. The move isn't going to appreciably increase the stick value. I would guess a new format is planned after the upgrade is complete. Putting Kidd Kraddick (soccer mom radio) and Tino Cochino (churban) on the same station has never made any sense, aside from them being from the same syndicator - Yea Networks. They went on KROI at roughly the same time they decided to build the new tower, so I'd guess they're just keeping something on the air as cheaply as possible until the new tower goes live and the format flips.

KRBE hasn't been sold because it's essentially managed out of Dallas by Dan Bennett, and Dallas is their most profitable market. Cumulus lets Dan run things however he sees fit, and this was true even during the Dickey era. The price tag Cumulus has on KRBE is completely unrealistic. Last I heard, it was over 12X cash flow. I suspect the long-term Texas plan for Cumulus is to acquire more stations in Houston and build a cluster around KRBE, probably through swaps.

If Radio One sells though, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Cumulus ended up with 92.1, either through purchase or LMA and Bennett tries to replicate the success of The Ticket on it. The two big AM sports talkers here, both of which have signal deficiencies in growth areas, could be taken out by a well programmed sports format on a decent FM signal, which KROI will be after the upgrade. KTCK is frequently either the top biller or close to it in Dallas. Bennett's big gambles seem to pay off more frequently than not.

I can't really see iHeart or Entercom blowing up one of their FMs to save their AM sports talkers here.
 
As far as trades go, I'm still surprised no one has figured out a deal for KRBE. It's such an oddity of a large group owning one station in a major market for years and years. It would fit nicely with iHeart or Entercom's clusters and Cumulus could get multiple whole clusters in geographically diverse locations in exchange.

Cox also has room for one more FM as well. Any of the three possible new owners would almost certainly keep the current CHR format on KRBE.

KROI would make a nice pairing with KTHT for another format simulcast, though I don't know if that would be Country Legends (I've always been curious about how well CL would do with better market coverage.)

One wildcard: Radio One buys KRBE. They then have the full market CHR signal they've wanted, and thus sell off KROI to Entercom or iHeart for their SportsTalkers, or it goes to EMF.

With them building a really expensive new transmitter site for KROI, I have to think Radio One is planning to hold onto it for a while. The move isn't going to appreciably increase the stick value. I would guess a new format is planned after the upgrade is complete. Putting Kidd Kraddick (soccer mom radio) and Tino Cochino (churban) on the same station has never made any sense, aside from them being from the same syndicator - Yea Networks. They went on KROI at roughly the same time they decided to build the new tower, so I'd guess they're just keeping something on the air as cheaply as possible until the new tower goes live and the format flips.

I would like to think the new tower will bring a format flip on 92.1, but I'm not holding my breath. The new site is around 10 miles closer to the heavy growth areas of the market, so there should be some improvement in the signal.

KRBE hasn't been sold because it's essentially managed out of Dallas by Dan Bennett, and Dallas is their most profitable market. Cumulus lets Dan run things however he sees fit, and this was true even during the Dickey era. The price tag Cumulus has on KRBE is completely unrealistic. Last I heard, it was over 12X cash flow. I suspect the long-term Texas plan for Cumulus is to acquire more stations in Houston and build a cluster around KRBE, probably through swaps.

Interesting thought, but who would be selling in Houston? I imagine Estrella Media might be liquidating their Houston portfolio, but all the FMs are rimshots...and the current formats (at least on 98.5 and 107.9) seem to do well despite the signal deficiencies.

It would not shock me if iHeart pulls out of Houston in order to swap stations and beef up other market clusters.

If Radio One sells though, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Cumulus ended up with 92.1, either through purchase or LMA and Bennett tries to replicate the success of The Ticket on it. The two big AM sports talkers here, both of which have signal deficiencies in growth areas, could be taken out by a well programmed sports format on a decent FM signal, which KROI will be after the upgrade. KTCK is frequently either the top biller or close to it in Dallas. Bennett's big gambles seem to pay off more frequently than not.

You would have to kill off one of the existing local SportsTalkers for that to work. I don't think there is room for four of them, and probably not even three (I am not including stations that simply carry national feeds.) Gow Media might be on shaky ground, despite being the only current SportsTalk on FM.

I can't really see iHeart or Entercom blowing up one of their FMs to save their AM sports talkers here.

They won't. They would look for an additional signal. Possibility if KROI and/or KFNC are sold...or if one of them leases the 105.3 translator.
 
KROI would make a nice pairing with KTHT for another format simulcast, though I don't know if that would be Country Legends (I've always been curious about how well CL would do with better market coverage.)

As you might remember, 92.1 and 97.1 were paired up in the 90’s. That was when 92.1 was classic KRTS “K-Arts;” 97.1 was KRTK. I believe that changed around the end of '96/beginning of '97 when 97.1 was sold and became KKTL “K-Talk.” After acquiring Nationwide, Jacor bought KKTL 97.1 and combined it with KTBZ, then on 107.5. 97.1 was sold to Cox with 93Q, the intellectual property of KLDE, and the 107.5 signal when Clear Channel, which had bought Jacor, acquired AMFM.
 
With them building a really expensive new transmitter site for KROI, I have to think Radio One is planning to hold onto it for a while. The move isn't going to appreciably increase the stick value. I would guess a new format is planned after the upgrade is complete. Putting Kidd Kraddick (soccer mom radio) and Tino Cochino (churban) on the same station has never made any sense, aside from them being from the same syndicator - Yea Networks. They went on KROI at roughly the same time they decided to build the new tower, so I'd guess they're just keeping something on the air as cheaply as possible until the new tower goes live and the format flips.

The problem is that 10 miles in Houston does not help much. It barely moves the 60 dbu from just below downtown to just above, and still only hits the southern 2/3 of Harris. An improvement, but not immense. It does increse coverage of Ft Bend County to almost total, but that's pretty much it. It does not help to the East or Northeast at all.

This looks a lot like putting lipstick on a pig.
 
maybe La Grande?

I would say the writing is on the wall that they will most likely launch La Grande on KROI, and use the Houston market sales angle to couple with the La Grande stations in Columbus and Indianapolis, IN!

Radio One and Entercom made some station swaps today: https://radioinsight.com/headlines/...-to-radio-one-for-wphi-wtem-and-st-louis-duo/

Looks like Alfred Liggins may be ready to make more moves. Might KROI be headed to new ownership soon? Entercom would probably love to get SportsRadio 610 on an FM.
 
I would say the writing is on the wall that they will most likely launch La Grande on KROI, and use the Houston market sales angle to couple with the La Grande stations in Columbus and Indianapolis, IN!

Columbus and Indianapolis are not even Top 50 Hispanic markets, The is no synergy between Houston and those others. And Radio One tried Spanish language radio before, and there was a huge in-house culture clash that was very debilitating. They lost a lot of money on that one, even with one of the best PDs.
 
And Radio One tried Spanish language radio before, and there was a huge in-house culture clash that was very debilitating. They lost a lot of money on that one, even with one of the best PDs.
That was almost 15 years ago.

Both KTJM and KQQK are doing rather well with weaker rimshots. With KLTN being a daytime talk station, the only competition for Regional Mexican music is Estrella Media at the moment (that pesky church translator is a joke not even worth discussing... I wouldn't be surprised to see another format flip by the end of the year).
 
That was almost 15 years ago.

Both KTJM and KQQK are doing rather well with weaker rimshots. With KLTN being a daytime talk station, the only competition for Regional Mexican music is Estrella Media at the moment (that pesky church translator is a joke not even worth discussing... I wouldn't be surprised to see another format flip by the end of the year).

Again, there was culture clash at many levels when they tried regional. That will not change.
 
Is it surprising to you, David, that CBS/Entercom has done as well as they have with their spanish-language stations in general market clusters?

No.

Many general market companies have done ethnic formats of all kinds.

Without getting into a very sensitive and delicate subject, suffice it to say that the African American and the Hispanic cultures are, for the most part, very different.
 
That was almost 15 years ago.

Both KTJM and KQQK are doing rather well with weaker rimshots. With KLTN being a daytime talk station, the only competition for Regional Mexican music is Estrella Media at the moment (that pesky church translator is a joke not even worth discussing... I wouldn't be surprised to see another format flip by the end of the year).

Well every time i tune in to that Joke i hear tons of commercials so you may be talking out of your ass...
 
different people a different time i am surprised you would assume that they would not be able to adjust to the cultural difference
 
The problem is that 10 miles in Houston does not help much. It barely moves the 60 dbu from just below downtown to just above, and still only hits the southern 2/3 of Harris. An improvement, but not immense. It does increse coverage of Ft Bend County to almost total, but that's pretty much it. It does not help to the East or Northeast at all.

This looks a lot like putting lipstick on a pig.

I'd be willing to bet this pig will squeal much louder from its new site.

The old site was built on the cheap, using an existing TV tower, and a full-wave antenna for maximum operational efficiency. Licensed TPO is just 9kW.

I'd be willing to bet a pattern study was commissioned for the new tower they're building. They're also planning to use a half-wave antenna, when there are zero downward radiation concerns at the new site, much like their KZMJ in DFW does. I didn't look closely at KZMJ, but the 55kW TPO pretty much gives it away.

You know as well as I do that there's no such thing as a non-directional FM antenna. Stations are licensed that way on paper, but the way you mount the antenna has a profound impact on coverage in a desired direction. I'd be willing to bet this was modeled extensively, and will out punch its weight class to the north in a way the old site never did.
 
As you might remember, 92.1 and 97.1 were paired up in the 90’s. That was when 92.1 was classic KRTS “K-Arts;” 97.1 was KRTK. I believe that changed around the end of '96/beginning of '97 when 97.1 was sold and became KKTL “K-Talk.” After acquiring Nationwide, Jacor bought KKTL 97.1 and combined it with KTBZ, then on 107.5. 97.1 was sold to Cox with 93Q, the intellectual property of KLDE, and the 107.5 signal when Clear Channel, which had bought Jacor, acquired AMFM.

The first tests I heard of KRTK 97.1 were in December of 1992, running Classical music and recorded KRTS announcers, but not a simulcast. The simulcast of 92.1 began shortly afterwards, lasting until May of 1995 when both stations went dark due to financial problems (KRTS would return three months later with a streamlined Classical format, more voicetracking, and heavier audio processing. Many claim going dark was a ruse by station owner Michael Stude to force approval of a signal upgrade from C2 to C1, which he eventually got.)

KRTK returned a couple of months later in the summer of 1995 with music stunting which lasted a few weeks. After that was the launch of KEYH-FM, simulcasting the Ranchera format of the AM. That lasted only about six months. What followed was KOND "K-Onda" which had more of a Spanish language Pop format, and was also short lived. IIRC K-Onda was similar to the "Orbita" format that was on 100.7 a few years later (anyone remember that?) Next up late in 1996 was "Nortena 97.1", also short lived (no call change.)

In 1997 the KRTK calls returned and the Talk format, featuring Roger Gray, was launched as "97 Talk" with Imus in the Morning, local talk during the day, and syndicated Talk at night. The call was later changed to KKTL. At some point during the Talk format days the 97.1 signal noticeably improved, I believe due to a signal upgrade to a taller tower. I actually enjoyed listening to 97 Talk, as the level of conversation was more calm and intelligent in contrast to the increasing bile and vitriol on other Talk stations.

The talk format ended 18-24 months later (memory fuzzy on that) and the simulcast with 107.5 began, first as a sibling to KTBZ, then to KLDE after the format swap between 94.5 and 107.5.

In late 2000 Cox was the owner, launching "Hot 97.1", a format totally unsuited to the rimshot signal. It lasted two years. Country Legends 97.1 debuted in January 2003, and has been on the air ever since.
 
I'd be willing to bet a pattern study was commissioned for the new tower they're building. They're also planning to use a half-wave antenna, when there are zero downward radiation concerns at the new site, much like their KZMJ in DFW does. (snip) I'd be willing to bet this was modeled extensively, and will out punch its weight class to the north in a way the old site never did.

Any word on how construction is going and a possible target date for hitting on the air?
 
Again, there was culture clash at many levels when they tried regional. That will not change.
You still think that after 14 years, one huge recession (possibly going into another one), and several layoffs later that the same issues will arise? The radio market today isn't the same as it was in 2005. I think everyone in radio knows that they are more disposable than ever before and falling in line is a must.

Avoiding an opportunity because of what happened a decade and a half ago just doesn't make sense to me.
 
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