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Boston soon market 11

Exodus of good jobs to lower taxes and looser regulations (esp. environmental) in Southern states. Also, with working at home, you don't have to be near an office or HQ to do your job, so why put up with Boston winters even if your company is based there? Oh, and until all of Boston's universities and museums move to Phoenix, it will still be the Hub of the Universe.
 
Well, like it has already been mentioned, Boston has been trying to stay in the Top 10 for years! Remember when rhe.market almost fell of the Top 10, but was able to retain it, because they decided to add Metrowest to be included in the market?

I guess there is only so far that the listening area can be stretched. Maybe if they annex Worcester and Providence to the msa, they maybe it can be retained again? Not likely to happen, but just pondering as usual.
 
Does Nielsen follow this when making radio markets ?
I do not know who makes these types of decisions. I have read in the past on this board that all radio stations in a given market, collectively decide which geographical areas should be included in the ratings reporting surveys.

For example, Nashua, NH is included in the Boston TV market, while with radio, it is not.
 
I do not know who makes these types of decisions. I have read in the past on this board that all radio stations in a given market, collectively decide which geographical areas should be included in the ratings reporting surveys.

For example, Nashua, NH is included in the Boston TV market, while with radio, it is not.
The main criteria for establishing a radio market is the composition of listening in each individual county as well as the integration of factors such as commuting within those counties. It is not the same factor as the OMB and the Census use for Metropolitan Statistical Areas, which are based on economics and not radio listening.

Radio markets are county, not city, based. There are a few split counties (Boston has one of them) but generally whole counties are allocated to radio markets.

A metro survey area can be redefined every year based on listening patterns. A good example is Houston, where counties on the periphery come and go with rather great regularity. This can be done with if rated markets are not contiguous and it's not an issue of taking a county from one market and adding it to another... or absorbing a market within another.

However, when there are adjacent markets, the determining factor is more complicated. For example, in 1980 Miami and Ft Lauderdale were separate markets, but there was a desire by the FM stations to combine to make the metro higher ranked to get more national and regional dollars. The AM stations, which don't cover the full combined area, did not like the idea. Arbitron had subscribers vote and consolidation was approved.

In an opposite situation, it was proposed that the LA market absorb the Riverside/San Bernardino market. But enough stations did not want this to make the initiative fail.

TV markets are very different as they often include vast areas beyond the signal of over the air stations through cable and satellite distribution. They are reach-based survey areas, not signal based. Radio is totally signal based.

So adjustments in non-conflictive counties (that is, they are not being disputed by two adjacent markets) are done purely by Nielsen based on listening. But where a country might move from one market to another, there is a need for current subscribers to participate. The same applies if one market will be absorbed by another. But always the core value is the predominant listening pattern in the county.
 
Well, like it has already been mentioned, Boston has been trying to stay in the Top 10 for years! Remember when rhe.market almost fell of the Top 10, but was able to retain it, because they decided to add Metrowest to be included in the market?

I guess there is only so far that the listening area can be stretched. Maybe if they annex Worcester and Providence to the msa, they maybe it can be retained again? Not likely to happen, but just pondering as usual.
Remember that the OMB and Census have a Metropolitan Statistical Area, based on commerce. Radio has a Metro Survey Area, based on radio listening. There is, in this situation, no way that Providence can become part of the Nielsen radio MSA as the listening to Boston signals is very limited by coverage and preference for local stations.

In a large number of cases, the radio MSA and the Census MSA are not the same.

In the article linked above, we do not see San Francisco at #4 but that is where it is in Nielsen. Dallas and Houston drop by one. And Miami, in radio metro's, is not Top 10... as it does not include the Palm Beaches.

Nielsen metro PDF map: https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Arbitron/Market-Maps/Nielsen-Market-Map-Fall 2020.pdf

Nielsen metro population ranks: https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Arbitron/Red-Blue-Books/RedFall2020.pdf
 
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Exodus of good jobs to lower taxes and looser regulations (esp. environmental) in Southern states.

Keep in mind that the population of Boston is still growing. But places like Phoenix and Atlanta are growing by larger numbers. Some of it is immigration, some of it is people in some groups having more kids, and a part of it is more jobs in other areas.
 
Keep in mind that the population of Boston is still growing. But places like Phoenix and Atlanta are growing by larger numbers. Some of it is immigration, some of it is people in some groups having more kids, and a part of it is more jobs in other areas.
In the case of Phoenix, a significant amount is immigration, followed by relocation. The greatest source of the relocation is middle class CA ex-residents.
 
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