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NFL Wants To Double Fee To ESPN

NoDakObserver said:
No, I don't think any broadcast network wants Thursday Night Football anymore. I just wonder how many games will be streaming exclusive. That could get many people upset.
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I imagine they will all air on NFL Network. I wonder who is producing the games.
 
More discussions here about Thursday Night Football. It's possible it will end up on Amazon Prime:

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Liberty Media CEO Sees Amazon Driving Big Tech’s TV Sports Rights Ambitions

After Amazon Prime deals for soccer rights in the U.K. and Germany and now eyeing Thursday night NFL games, Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei sees the streaming giant spearheading a push by Big Tech platforms for international sports rights.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com

And recent speculation points to Amazon wanting to nab the rights to all Thursday Night Football games from the NFL as part of current contract renewal talks across the industry. As rival Fox Corp. negotiates with the NFL to renew its football rights packages, CEO Lachlan Murdoch recently hinted that his company may end up eventually just offering Sunday afternoon NFL games and give up its Thursday Night Football.
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TheBigA said:
More discussions here about Thursday Night Football. It's possible it will end up on Amazon Prime:

www.hollywoodreporter.com

Liberty Media CEO Sees Amazon Driving Big Tech’s TV Sports Rights Ambitions

After Amazon Prime deals for soccer rights in the U.K. and Germany and now eyeing Thursday night NFL games, Liberty Media CEO Greg Maffei sees the streaming giant spearheading a push by Big Tech platforms for international sports rights.
www.hollywoodreporter.com www.hollywoodreporter.com
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I thought that was already reported as happening.
 
TheBigA said:
Apparently not yet. But if it does, it would be exclusive:

www.shacknews.com

Amazon in talks for NFL Thursday Night Football exclusivity on Prime Video

Amazon was already streaming NFL Thursday Night Football via Twitch and aims to deepen the deal with the American football league by 2023.
www.shacknews.com www.shacknews.com

The exclusive part may be the holdup.
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Imagine of one of those Thursday night mid- or late-season games turns out to be unexpectedly important to both teams' playoff hopes and those of several other teams -- and the only people who can see it are those in the participating teams' cities and Amazon Prime customers. The optics are terrible, and I'm sure more than a few senators and representatives will be threatening legislation, whether the NFL and Amazon are engaging in anything unconstitutional or not.
 
CTListener said:
Imagine of one of those Thursday night mid- or late-season games turns out to be unexpectedly important to both teams' playoff hopes and those of several other teams -- and the only people who can see it are those in the participating teams' cities and Amazon Prime customers. The optics are terrible, and I'm sure more than a few senators and representatives will be threatening legislation, whether the NFL and Amazon are engaging in anything unconstitutional or not.
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Plenty of stuff is on premium networks and nobody complains. TNF has never really been the best games and I doubt that changes.
 
CTListener said:
Imagine of one of those Thursday night mid- or late-season games turns out to be unexpectedly important to both teams' playoff hopes and those of several other teams -- and the only people who can see it are those in the participating teams' cities and Amazon Prime customers.
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Amazon could always strike a deal with one or more of the broadcast networks that would allow the game to air OTA. That's what the NFL Network did in 2007 with the famous NE-NYG game where the Patriots were going for a perfect regular season. That game was simulcast on both CBS and NBC. Was great publicity for NFLN, as it was their production that was widely seen.
CTListener said:
The optics are terrible, and I'm sure more than a few senators and representatives will be threatening legislation, whether the NFL and Amazon are engaging in anything unconstitutional or not.
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I would hope the politicians in D.C. have better things to do, otherwise they are even dumber than we already think they are.

Please cite the sections in the U.S. Constitution as well as relevant Bible verses as to why there is some sort of unalienable right to have all NFL games broadcast OTA.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Amazon could always strike a deal with one or more of the broadcast networks that would allow the game to air OTA. That's what the NFL Network did in 2007 with the famous NE-NYG game where the Patriots were going for a perfect regular season. That game was simulcast on both CBS and NBC. Was great publicity for NFLN, as it was their production that was widely seen.

I would hope the politicians in D.C. have better things to do, otherwise they are even dumber than we already think they are.

Please site the sections in the U.S. Constitution as well as relevant Bible verses as to why there is some sort of unalienable right to have all NFL games broadcast OTA.
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The only thing I can think of is the exemption the NFL has for antitrust.
 
Don CT said:
The only thing I can think of is the exemption the NFL has for antitrust.
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I think you've hit the nail there with that. The NFL has been trying to keep their games on some form of accessible TV, and not stick a big chunk behind a paywall. They had this debate when MNF moved to ESPN. So it's likely part of the discussion now.
 
Mediafrog+ said:
Amazon could always strike a deal with one or more of the broadcast networks that would allow the game to air OTA.
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Typically the way that works is home team markets only. That's how MNF & ESPN handled it. But it sounds like Amazon wants to force exclusivity (with a billion dollars) that wouldn't even allow that.

Another issue is if Amazon will form its own internal sports production company, as the networks have, or if they'd utilize one of the existing companies and air teams.
 
CTListener said:
Imagine of one of those Thursday night mid- or late-season games turns out to be unexpectedly important to both teams' playoff hopes and those of several other teams -- and the only people who can see it are those in the participating teams' cities and Amazon Prime customers. The optics are terrible, and I'm sure more than a few senators and representatives will be threatening legislation, whether the NFL and Amazon are engaging in anything unconstitutional or not.
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any different than games that have been cable only(outside of the participating team's markets) the past 30+ years? this like the Giants-Patriots games when the NFL network had spotty carriage, anyone can subscribe to Amazon prime who want to pay for it? but will they schedule any marquee games or just late season dogs?
 
The problem in my view is that sports is its own thing. I'd guess the majority of Amazon Prime subscribers don't care about sports, and the people who are interested in sports don't care about the rest of Amazon Prime. If they're going to do this, they need to split off the sports part. That's what cable companies have done.
 
TheBigA said:
The problem in my view is that sports is its own thing. I'd guess the majority of Amazon Prime subscribers don't care about sports, and the people who are interested in sports don't care about the rest of Amazon Prime.
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If Amazon Prime subscribers skew female, you're probably right. Conventional thinking in the newspaper business a couple of decades ago was that only about 35 percent of total readers cared about sports, and of that 35 percent the vast majority were men and boys. But the thing is, there were far many male readers who read ONLY the sports pages (and maybe page 1) than there were women and girls who read only the "Family Living" pages -- or whatever your paper's "Women's Pages" had become -- and maybe page 1. Which meant that you'd better direct plenty of money in the direction of the sports department because if your sports section slacks off, you're going to start losing men as paying customers, whereas you could fill the former "women's" section with syndicated features, recipes and advice columns instead of local stories of interest mainly to women and not hurt your single-copy sales and subscription numbers at all.
 
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