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Kari Lake leaving Channel 10

She's been off the air since January, and has had credibility issues for at least the last couple of years.

As far as I'm concerned, she won't be missed one bit. She's had trouble keeping her far-right-wing views to herself for a long time, and can no longer be considered an objective news anchor. I hope she does well in her next endeavor (unless she goes into politics), but I'll be shocked if any other station in this market hires her.

 
It is sad that she is leaving, but I can't blame her. There are no "journalists" anymore, all the media wants now is someone who can read democrat talking points.
 
It is sad that she is leaving, but I can't blame her. There are no "journalists" anymore, all the media wants now is someone who can read democrat talking points.
This is getting to be a very irritating right-wing smear. There is a fine line separating journalists and poseurs who spew their opinions (sometimes interspersed with real news). The real journalists are still out there but hidden by the many newsreaders. Journalists create stories about subjects. Newsreaders read those stories. Poseurs slant the stories to their preferred political talking points. These people, all of them, represent a wide range of political views. There are as many and perhaps more right wing talkers as there are lefties. If you think you are hearing nothing but left-wing journalism then you are listening for it.
 
It is sad that she is leaving, but I can't blame her. There are no "journalists" anymore, all the media wants now is someone who can read democrat talking points.
She used to be a very good news anchor, until "guess who" became President. She turned into a rabid right-winger in the last 5 years. She can believe and vote however she pleases, but she had a bad habit of putting her personal opinions into the stories she read. And she got worse and worse, to the point that I couldn't watch Channel 10 when she was anchoring.

Media people say that there is no direct connection between Fox Television Stations (the O&Os) and Fox News Channel. In the case of KSAZ-TV, there definitely is, even though the two companies are separate corporate Fox entities.
 
She used to be a very good news anchor, until "guess who" became President. She turned into a rabid right-winger in the last 5 years. She can believe and vote however she pleases, but she had a bad habit of putting her personal opinions into the stories she read. And she got worse and worse, to the point that I couldn't watch Channel 10 when she was anchoring.

Media people say that there is no direct connection between Fox Television Stations (the O&Os) and Fox News Channel. In the case of KSAZ-TV, there definitely is, even though the two companies are separate corporate Fox entities.
Mark Curtis does commentaries, but they are marked (no pun intended) as such. Did FOX10 do the same with Kari's viewpoints? I can't answer that because they aren't my go to local news station, especially now that they have competition at 9pm.
 
Mark Curtis does commentaries, but they are marked (no pun intended) as such. Did FOX10 do the same with Kari's viewpoints? I can't answer that because they aren't my go to local news station, especially now that they have competition at 9pm.
I am usually watching Fox10 AM each weekday so I see mostly only headline stories. I almost never see the station anchors at night. I don't see the 'slant' of the news stories in the morning and occasionally at noon time so I wouldn't expect to hear a political slant in the evening either. Fox10 has always, in my limited viewing, appeared to be very independent from the Fox News propaganda (which I don't watch at all). I am kind of surprised that a well-known anchor would be able to insert his or her personal views into that station's news.
 
This is getting to be a very irritating right-wing smear. There is a fine line separating journalists and poseurs who spew their opinions (sometimes interspersed with real news). The real journalists are still out there but hidden by the many newsreaders. Journalists create stories about subjects. Newsreaders read those stories. Poseurs slant the stories to their preferred political talking points. These people, all of them, represent a wide range of political views. There are as many and perhaps more right wing talkers as there are lefties. If you think you are hearing nothing but left-wing journalism then you are listening for it.
Well stated landtuna. Pretty tough to follow that one.
 
Media people say that there is no direct connection between Fox Television Stations (the O&Os) and Fox News Channel. In the case of KSAZ-TV, there definitely is, even though the two companies are separate corporate Fox entities.

All during the Trump years, one could watch that station's YouTube channel for live broadcasts of every campaign speech, every rally, every photo op. And the chat would be wide open, full of extreme right spewing a mix of vile racism and conspiracy garbage, extreme left fighting back with nasty Donald-Ivanka speculation, what they'd like to do to Kayleigh McEnany, the worst profanity possible ... and then there'd be the "Trump was chosen by Jesus" loonies to add their anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim two cents to the fray. All this of course would be completely unfiltered. What a great operation KSAZ is!
 
All during the Trump years, one could watch that station's YouTube channel for live broadcasts of every campaign speech, every rally, every photo op. And the chat would be wide open, full of extreme right spewing a mix of vile racism and conspiracy garbage, extreme left fighting back with nasty Donald-Ivanka speculation, what they'd like to do to Kayleigh McEnany, the worst profanity possible ... and then there'd be the "Trump was chosen by Jesus" loonies to add their anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim two cents to the fray. All this of course would be completely unfiltered. What a great operation KSAZ is!
When and where did you observe that? I saw none of that (excepting, as mentioned before) on their nightly news. KSAZ seemed to cover the campaigns and outlier programming like virtually every other major Phoenix TV outlet. I don't even remember seeing any defined opinion rants. Talking about on-air programming obviously and not Youtube or other non-air sites.
 
When and where did you observe that? I saw none of that (excepting, as mentioned before) on their nightly news. KSAZ seemed to cover the campaigns and outlier programming like virtually every other major Phoenix TV outlet. I don't even remember seeing any defined opinion rants. Talking about on-air programming obviously and not Youtube or other non-air sites.
Hmmm, I might be wrong here. I see your Fox station is Channel 10, but I am almost sure that the Fox Phoenix YouTube feed I watched had a "5" on it. I swear it also said "Phoenix," too. I never saw call letters. If anyone else on this board can tell me just what I was watching, it would be appreciated. I know I'm not imagining all this.
 
Hmmm, I might be wrong here. I see your Fox station is Channel 10, but I am almost sure that the Fox Phoenix YouTube feed I watched had a "5" on it. I swear it also said "Phoenix," too. I never saw call letters. If anyone else on this board can tell me just what I was watching, it would be appreciated. I know I'm not imagining all this.
Channel 5 in Phoenix is CBS, owned by Meredith and co-owned with KTVK Channel 3. They brand themselves as "Arizona's Family."
 
Channel 5 in Phoenix is CBS, owned by Meredith and co-owned with KTVK Channel 3. They brand themselves as "Arizona's Family."
I'm thoroughly confused now. I've looked at all three stations' homepages and none of their logos is in the style I remember the YouTube channel's being. Maybe I WAS imagining the whole thing.
 
When and where did you observe that? I saw none of that (excepting, as mentioned before) on their nightly news. KSAZ seemed to cover the campaigns and outlier programming like virtually every other major Phoenix TV outlet. I don't even remember seeing any defined opinion rants. Talking about on-air programming obviously and not Youtube or other non-air sites.
Kari had a bad habit (as did her broadcast partner John Hook, but with less vitriol) of commenting on a lot of stories that one or the other read. They are far from the only news anchors to do this -- the Meredith stations are notorious for commenting on stories as well, but they avoid politics. But Kari has been caught several times on-air commenting on political stories when she should not have, and being nasty about it. This is not appropriate for a news anchor, and I believe that is why she was sent home.

Bill Close (speaking of Channel 10) was about as conservative as any Phoenix anchor ever has been, but he kept his opinions to himself. Granted, he was from a generation long past, but he kept it professional on-air.
 
I'm thoroughly confused now. I've looked at all three stations' homepages and none of their logos is in the style I remember the YouTube channel's being. Maybe I WAS imagining the whole thing.
The YouTube channel was (is?) branded "FOX10 News Now," and even KUTP devotes morning hours to carrying it. I think they've expanded it on a national level through OTT service Tubi with the name "News Now from FOX," but is still run out of KSAZ.
 
"News Now" as aired on Fox 45 Phoenix is a weird news feature that does not have an actual news anchor. Instead it features primarily news bites from speeches featuring national politicians and other noteworthy people (an example would be the famous doctor Fauci). You won't get any opinion on this program unless it comes from one of the speech givers as the "host" is nothing more than a board op. It is really pretty worthless. An example of their content was the non-stop commentary from New York governor Cuomo concerning the Covid situation in the NYC environment. Almost nothing in those speeches applied to the rest of the nation and yet he droned on for days on end.
 
Kari had a bad habit (as did her broadcast partner John Hook, but with less vitriol) of commenting on a lot of stories that one or the other read. They are far from the only news anchors to do this -- the Meredith stations are notorious for commenting on stories as well, but they avoid politics. But Kari has been caught several times on-air commenting on political stories when she should not have, and being nasty about it. This is not appropriate for a news anchor, and I believe that is why she was sent home.

Bill Close (speaking of Channel 10) was about as conservative as any Phoenix anchor ever has been, but he kept his opinions to himself. Granted, he was from a generation long past, but he kept it professional on-air.

This is a key point. When I first moved to Phoenix in the mid-2000's, I tried all the different stations. Even at that time, I noticed that Kari and John had a bad habit of making very conservative comments on their news stories. It really turned me off to watching Fox 10 in the evenings. I contrast them to Linda Williams on the weekends who did not make such comments and have always secretly wished they would promote Linda to weekdays.

And I agree with KeithE4 about Bill Close. I spent a summer here during my college years. Bill Close was the best newscaster in Phoenix at the time. I thought he was objective and honestly had no idea of his personal political views. Of course, that era of evening newscaster was much more serious and objective than they tend to be today.
 
Kari had a bad habit (as did her broadcast partner John Hook, but with less vitriol) of commenting on a lot of stories that one or the other read. They are far from the only news anchors to do this -- the Meredith stations are notorious for commenting on stories as well, but they avoid politics. But Kari has been caught several times on-air commenting on political stories when she should not have, and being nasty about it. This is not appropriate for a news anchor, and I believe that is why she was sent home.

Bill Close (speaking of Channel 10) was about as conservative as any Phoenix anchor ever has been, but he kept his opinions to himself. Granted, he was from a generation long past, but he kept it professional on-air.
That's something that is becoming harder to find. Back in those generations long past, you had no idea the political leanings of an anchor or journalist, unless they were doing a commentary (and as said before, those were clearly labeled). Otherwise, you could guess, but never know for sure.

Then along comes the narrative that all the "mainstream media" is biased, but what a lot of people seem to have missed is, that was more marketing than truth. Yes, the New York Times opinions page leaned liberal, but the news part of the paper was the gold standard for objective print journalism. The TV news networks? Again, you could guess, but the reporters and anchors kept their opinions to themselves, because that was the professional thing to do.

Well if you're gonna start a network to compete with those behemoths? You need an angle. Fox's angle was that they were some upstart taking on the "mainstream media" (which was hopelessly liberal) and they were going to give you news that was "fair and balanced." If you have to say you're fair and balanced....

It was successful. They (along with talk radio) created an alternate universe where they were the only unbiased outlets, and everyone else was loony left. In addition, they blurred the lines between what was news and what was commentary, with stuff like O'Reilly's "No Spin Zone" (which was 100 percent spin), and making it very clear that they were the alternative to "the liberal media," essentially saying "we say we're unbiased, but we're really just biased towards what you think." Now people don't just know the bias of their favorite "news" outlet, they want them to be biased. It can't just give you the news, it has to confirm your opinion and/or tell you what to think about the news.

That seems to be at the center of Lake's beef or Fox 10's beef with her. Her statement, coupled with her previous comments indicate that she wants to be one of those "journalists" that can and does clearly state their opinion, but the folks in charge at KSAZ said "no Kari, your job is to read the news, not be the next Sean Hannity."
 
Hmmm, I might be wrong here. I see your Fox station is Channel 10, but I am almost sure that the Fox Phoenix YouTube feed I watched had a "5" on it. I swear it also said "Phoenix," too. I never saw call letters. If anyone else on this board can tell me just what I was watching, it would be appreciated. I know I'm not imagining all this.
Fox 5 from Washington DC, New York or Atlanta?
 
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