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KYXY and K-JOY---- What Formats Did They Have?

No. At this point, Shotgun would either have been at KACY, Oxnard or KAFY, Bakersfield. He wouldn't arrive at KFMB-FM until 1976. KFMB didn't go live with hit music until March of 1975.

My guess is the voice is Ed Peters, KFMB's General Manager at the time. He syndicated the "Music Only For A Woman" format, which was the beginning of what became Peters Productions, a fairly successful production and jingle house in the 70s and 80s.

I've been reading through 1963 issues of the San Diego Union, noting how differently radio was done way back then (for example, DJs routinely working six-day weeks rather than a straight Monday-Friday).

I'm guessing KPRI-FM was doing the Beautiful Music format at the time, judging from the program titles in the newspaper: "Morning Moods," "Music for Mothers" and "KPRI by the Sea." As an old radio junkie, I wish I could hear some of that, though I doubt I'd have tuned in very often.
Michael Haggerty, That's definitely NOT Ed Peters doing the sign-on message at the beginning of the KFMB-FM broadcast day on the Youtube video.

And David Eduardo, there were never any early fades done on ANY of the Peters formats (unless there was something objectionable at the end of a cut that didn't fit the format). I would know, I worked on all of the Peters formats until BPI bought the company from Ed in 1987 and canned all of us.
 
And David Eduardo, there were never any early fades done on ANY of the Peters formats (unless there was something objectionable at the end of a cut that didn't fit the format). I would know, I worked on all of the Peters formats until BPI bought the company from Ed in 1987 and canned all of us.
I had Music for the Two Of Us from late 1975 to around 1977 when I switched to FM 100. The Beautiful Music tapes had two things: early tones to cause songs to overlap, and faster fades on songs that had very slow one.

When I went on a few years later to do Música en Flor, a Beeautiful Music format for Latin America, I remembered using examples of Shulke: too long, and MftToU: way too short, in training my tape producers and editors.
 
Can any historians of San Diego radio tell me what sort of music was on KYXY and K-JOY, back about 40 years ago?

I know KOGO was doing an adult-contemporary format at the time, and I'm guessing KYXY and K-JOY were targeting a demographic that was older and more feminine, but were these stations all playing the same A/C material?
KYXY FM had been KFMX and did Beautiful Music from August or September 1969 before changing calls in 1971. Wally Nelskog of Seattle's KIXI A/F owned it and programmed it with the KIXI format, which in the 70s he would syndicate as "Bright 'n Beautiful which BPI would sell as their new Beautiful format from about 1973 through the decade and into the early 80s. Was very up-tempo with a quarter vocals at least. KSDO FM had been a Classical Music station from 1965 and was owned by Sherwood Gordon whose KSDO AM was San Diego's leading Beautiful Music AM from Sept ember 1959 through 1970 when it became a talk station. KSDO FM in the 70s became Country KOZN which did not do so well and was flipped in 1977 to Beautiful Music, running Darrell Peters' FM 100 Plan with which within a year or so it emerged as the market's #1 Beautiful outlet, calls being changed to KJGY in 1979 before being sold to Westinghouse in 1981. In the Summer of 1988 the same gentleman who had run it since its country days and who initially owned a portion of it invented the ASR format, or Adult Spectrum Radio to go after a younger demographic than Beautiful Music was bringing him. Which debuted on KJQY and later was done briefly on all former Westinghouse Beautiful outlets before they switched to AC. San Diego was quite a Beautiful Music town with 15 to 20 stations doing it at some point from 1953 (Fred Rabell was a pioneer!) through the 70s. During the latter decade KYXY FM, KEZL FM, XTRA AM, and KJQY FM and perhaps one more station were all in competition and all were format leaders at different times.
 
Phil Stout at Schulke's SRP did sometimes use artificial or premature fades as well as extending a fade if it fit what they were trying to do. Sometimes segues as well. The pauses, usually of one to three seconds, were very carefully calculated between selections depending upon what they found most successful. Though Phil did the programming, Jim had to approve not only every selection but every quarter hour in the earlier days. "Savor time" was what Schulke dubbed their pauses between selections for public consumption and purposes of promotion.

At one point, he had about 6 or 7 different taped formats, all aimed at smaller markets.

For a time I had Music for the Two of Us (Música para Nosotros Dos) on WSRA, Sonorama 93, in San Juan. We did some customization but eventually went with FM 100 Plan out of Chicago. One of the odd things of the Peters format was that they put an artificial fade on the end of each song, which annoyed me considerably. The idea was to do the opposite of Shulke and Bonneville which left tiny pauses and, instead, segue the music with overlaps.
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I've been reading through 1963 issues of the San Diego Union, noting how differently radio was done way back then (for example, DJs routinely working six-day weeks rather than a straight Monday-Friday).

I'm guessing KPRI-FM was doing the Beautiful Music format at the time, judging from the program titles in the newspaper: "Morning Moods," "Music for Mothers" and "KPRI by the Sea." As an old radio junkie, I wish I could hear some of that, though I doubt I'd have tuned in very often.
Larry Shushan's KPRI, which went on the air in the early Summer of 1960, was an adult popular music station. Like many FMs at that time they played a broad spectrum of current popular LPs, often featuring whole LP sides or whole LPs. In those days most of the adult popular music audience enjoyed instrumental as well as vocal music, so those stations, though not primarily instrumental, played a lot of instrumentals. I would classify KPRI as a hip MOR station. They did folk and comedy and dance and even ethnic LPs along with Jazz and Pop and Classical evenings and even Opera weekends. They had live remotes and DJs handled the announcing. They even had a "slim-down" exercise program for women of the kind that was popular at that time on radio and TV. In the Spring of 1968 the station re-oriented itself toward the youth market. And they may have had some Prog Rock on nights before that.
 
Hoxie, you're welcome.

AC started in the late 60s with stations like WBZ, Boston, KFWB, Los Angeles and K-101 in San Francisco. It really was just Top 40 with the five to seven hardest songs of the week gone and oldies that went back 10-15 years instead of 3-5. When young-to-middle-aged adult listening shifted to FM in the early 80s, Jhani Kaye at KOST revolutionized the format with "Continuous Soft Hits". That's the AC you're recalling.

As for "Beautiful Music", it's a term the industry settled on for a format that, generally, featured a two-to-one instrumental/vocal mix and played music in 12-to-15 minute uninterrupted segments. Most, but not all, were automated.

Since you're familiar with San Diego, here's a local example---KFMB-FM in 1970---with a format they called "Music Only for a Woman":

Ed Peters fashioned Music . . . Only For A Woman for KFMB FM in 1967. Something along the lines of what Anita Kerr and Rod McKuen were doing with the San Sebastian Strings recordings which were very popular at the time. Except with music from LPs rather than original music. Featured poetry composed and I think read by Jacques Wilson (who worked at that station) throughout the day. Syndicated from 1970 and if you took the format you got copies of a book of his poems to distribute to listeners. The female angle is what Jim Schulke and Phil Stout were perfecting at that time with SRP. But Peters must have felt it was rather too limited in scope so brought out his Music . . . Just For the Two Of Us in 1972 and stayed with that for the next 15 years, although some of his clients did well with the "Only For A Woman" and wanted him to keep it going. I never heard either but I am guessing that "Two Of Us" owed a lot to "Only". As far as Beautiful Music is concerned - most stations in the 60s did about a 3 to 1 instrumental -vocal music mix, but some did all instr, or mostly instr, and only a very few did 2 to 1. Most but not all indeed worked in 15 or 20 or 30 minute music segments with a minimum of announcer chatter but not all. Think of them at this point as MOR stations emphasizing popular instrumentals. What became very popular as Beautiful Music on FM in the 70s were mostly much more carefully formatted so they would be musically interesting enough to appeal as foreground music but unobtrusive enough to serve as background music as well. These in general had fewer vocals until in the 1980s when many of them added more to try and attract a younger demographic.
 
I had Music for the Two Of Us from late 1975 to around 1977 when I switched to FM 100. The Beautiful Music tapes had two things: early tones to cause songs to overlap, and faster fades on songs that had very slow one.

When I went on a few years later to do Música en Flor, a Beeautiful Music format for Latin America, I remembered using examples of Shulke: too long, and MftToU: way too short, in training my tape producers and editors.
I was not at Peters in 1975-77 (did not arrive until 1980) but I can't imagine there being a directive to fade songs early.) There was no such thing in 1980-1987.
As I recall, the end tone on each song started 2 seconds before the end. And with 2 seconds of dead roll when the next element started, the next song would have begun at the very end of the 2 second fade. So there should not have been any overlap. It was the same for all of the Peters formats.
 
I read somewhere where KFMB-FM (KFBG) was on 100.5 before settling on 100.7.

Anybody have any clarification and why the change?

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
The current KFBG license goes back to 1959 and has always been on 100.7. It's so easy now to access all this information from the FCC's scans of its history cards (I use fccdata.org to get the links to them.)

I've seen that as well.

I'm thinking it might have been a misprint since the KFMB-FM calls were on 101.5, before going to 100.7.

I wish I remembered where I read it.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I've seen that as well.

I'm thinking it might have been a misprint since the KFMB-FM calls were on 101.5, before going to 100.7.

I wish I remembered where I read it.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
It's in a Wikipedia post about KFMB. It says KFMB signed 101.5 on the air in 1947, took it dark and turned in the license three years later. 101.5 signed back on as KSON-FM in 1950 and became KGB-FM in 1958. There was eight years as KBKB (1964-72), then back to KGB-FM.
 
I think that was in error, Jeff. 100.5 would have put it too close to 100.3 in L.A.
I would have thought that as well, but 100.7 puts it on co-channel with KHEY in Ventura which is not that much further than LA's 100.3, which has had too many call changes to remember.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
It's in a Wikipedia post about KFMB. It says KFMB signed 101.5 on the air in 1947, took it dark and turned in the license three years later. 101.5 signed back on as KSON-FM in 1950 and became KGB-FM in 1958. There was eight years as KBKB (1964-72), then back to KGB-FM.
Wiki is fun to read (and yes, I'm the one who donates $3 every year) but not necessarily credible.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
I would have thought that as well, but 100.7 puts it on co-channel with KHEY in Ventura which is not that much further than LA's 100.3, which has had too many call changes to remember.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
Ventura’s 100.7 is actually KHAY.
 
Ventura’s 100.7 is actually KHAY.
Thank you. I should have caught that. It was a typo, but the question still remains.

KHAY has a signal in downtown San Diego. The station will come booming in if KFBG drops carrier.

Jeff in Sa-ra-so-ta!
 
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