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what happened to the am band lol

My mom was of Cuban decent, dad was Italian, moms grandparents came to New Orleans at the turn of the 20th century 1910, from Santa Clara, Neocolonial Republic, the way they were treated by the Irish in NO was horrible, mocked and outcast ed, look up the NO hangings, They spoke no English, had to learn the American way or they could not survive.
Keep in mind that learning a new language becomes harder and harder with each year that passes after early adolescence for most people. That means that the first generation coming to the US will learn some English, but probably not be truly bilingual in their lifetime.

And, beyond that, things like music preferences will, perhaps, expand, but the core cultural musical styles will be "favorites" all during a person's lifetime. Of course, we are sometimes deceived into thinking otherwise because many immigrants grew up outside the US listening to English language music which they know and love.
No TV or radio in Spanish, nothing to help them, so my point is, the Hispanics coming into America nowadays have it great, compared to my ancestors with all the signals in Spanish, everyone should learn and adapt to English the way my ancestors did, Spanish was our second language not our first, same with all ethnics living in America, English first...case closed...
But don't expect first generation immigrants, for the most part, to be particularly proficient in English unless they already had been learning in school in their home nation. Otherwise, those immigrants will be working hard to get ahead, and will not have the time to be taking ESL classes and the like. Further, many of today's Latin American immigrants have a limited formal education even in Spanish, so they have never learned how to learn.

Back in 1910 less than 5% of Americans went to college, and fewer completed it. Today, more of us go to college than those who finished High School 111 years ago. It's difficult the make comparisons when the "standard" has changed so much.
 
Let's just cut to the chase:

<...>What happened to radio, I mean ages ago you might have only a few outlets in European tongues. I swear, if I didn't know I was in America I would of thought I was in a Spanish speaking country, it made my day, very hilarious, wonder how long there will be no English dialect on the AM band and half of the FM band.
'Ages ago' - 50 years ago? I think that was answered a few posts back.

Your next sentence is quite erroneous. There is no official language of the United States. By definition, English is a lingua franca, or a language used for communication between groups of people who speak different languages in the USofA.

Strictly speaking, within the business of radio, it doesn't matter. If there is an audience available, people will listen. You, sir, might just be excluded from that audience.

Funny piece of history I point out. Early in the 1800's and going for about 60 years, the US Government bought up land that Spain (thru Mexico) had purchased in much of the west. The lingua franca of that era was most likely a mixture of French, Spanish - and English.
 
This racism again?
Since we are talking about Spanish language radio, that means we are talking about Hispanics/Latinos/Latinx. Since "Hispanic" or its synonyms refers to a culture and not a race, this can't be a "racist" commentary.

Hispanics can be white, Black, Indigenous, Asian and everything in between.
 
There's still racism around today, but to represent it as a growth industry is, at best, disingenuous and at worst opportunistic. Bigotry, especially in the political and social realms is, sadly, on the rise; mostly in younger generations fueled by knee-jerk reactions on social media, at least by my observation.

Radio seems to do a pretty good job at serving the constituency it has to work with, despite competition from newer electronic media, technical limitations and hazards of PC 'culture' (the road is strewn with former morning shows that couldn't navigate the ever-tightening radius of acceptable discourse).

AM's a niche medium for those who can't get their programming elsewhere, much of it not in English. That's the modern-day business model that works.
 
Racism/bigotry isn't shrinking though, regardless of semantics. Hate crimes remain an issue, and that is reflective of broader racist/bigotry issues.

This late 2020 AP report summarizes FBI data, as does NPR. Specific to the Asian community, NBC News has this information. Also the BBC. SPLC takes a deep dive into hate activity as well.

Attitudes and non-reported or non-criminal conduct may be harder to track, but these crimes and activities do not happen in a vacuum. Some of it may be "casual" bigotry, "just words" as some would say. But it reflects an underlying issue.
 
Who said that? Nobody.

This started with an observation that a lot of fringe or secondary AMs around Philadelphia had Spanish language programming and it was mentioned that this is a product of the decline in AM in general and the profusion of Spanish speakers who could buy or rent those "downtrodden" stations, despite tiny audiences.

For decades, Chicago had multiple Polish stations as well as Polish programming on brokered small or suburban signals. Nobody objected. In the early 60's, two of the first independent FMs in Cleveland had blocks in Greek, Polish, Italian and many other European languages. In fact, one of my first radio jobs was running the board for a Cleveland r&b station that sold Sunday mornings for shows in German, Polish, Hungarian and a half-dozen other languages.

Nobody objected.

LA today has stations in Vietnamese, Mandarin Chinese, Korean, Tagalog, Farsi, Armenian as well as Spanish. And there are brokered stations with blocks in Japanese, Thai, Hindi, Bengali and others.

Nobody seems particularly upset about that, either.

Most parts of the US are over-radioed. The only positive result is that many smaller groups can be served by stations with lower power and coverage to the extreme benefit of the community at large.
Also, that wasn't EagleCVI. Trust me on that.

Why is this daddyoo person allowed to keep coming here and spewing the same racist dogwhistles over and over and over? Everybody knows what all the buzzy codewords mean (has anyone not on Fox News Channel used the term "European" so many damn times?) So pathetic and sickening. The world has changed, is changing, and will continue to change. You can get on board or you can watch it from the sidelines. But getting on one website on the internet and making the same sad arguments certainly isn't going to change anything. I suppose there is some sick thrill in seeing all the traffic it creates but that's even sadder since the majority of that traffic is disagreeing with you and rightfully calling you out as a racist. Say whatever you want, I'm done responding and I'm blocking daddyoo so I won't have to continue seeing the maniacal ramblings. Until he or she creates their next username.
 
I have banned daddyoo due to his racist posts.
Hmm. I must not have as sensitive a race-dar as the rest of you. So many "codewords" and "dogwhistles" that just cannot be allowed. Maybe I'm missing some of them due to tinnitus, or perhaps its just thickness of the skin.

Well, gentle readers have been spared the sometimes-rough flavors of the world, real or imagined. Thanks, Frank, for protecting the board from your concept of unacceptable opinion.

The rest of you, tread lightly; watch your backs. You could be the next ex-morning team for veering too close to the "unacceptable." You know what discourse is unallowable. For today.

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When one views the history in full context, the picture becomes increasingly clear.

And is one supposed to take the tired and trite cliche of snowflakes as some sort of negative commentary amidst the sarcasm?
Ironically, I suffer from 24/7 tinnitus (resulting from a truly horrible condition called Meniere's Syndrome). But I can still see and hear blatant racism, especially when it's being practiced by the same person on a constant cycle of lather, rinse, repeat.

Indeed, a loud and grateful thank you to @frankberry !
 
Oh that sounds awful. Sorry you have to deal with that daily.
Thank you. So far, it's just my left ear and aside from the ringing, the ear is basically useless. Can't discern speech on that side at all and what music I can hear sounds ridiculous. The condition alters and eventually takes away certain frequencies, then other frequencies, then yet more frequencies. When I began suffering with it, I started hearing female background singers that I'd never noticed before in songs that I had listened to my entire life! From there, things got progressively worse (leading to having to go through brain surgery in 2017) and now, on top of the tinnitus, I am also dizzy 24/7. But in some ways I'm lucky: Some folks with the syndrome eventually get it in both ears and end up pretty much completely deaf.
 
Ironically, I suffer from 24/7 tinnitus (resulting from a truly horrible condition called Meniere's Syndrome). But I can still see and hear blatant racism, especially when it's being practiced by the same person on a constant cycle of lather, rinse, repeat.

Indeed, a loud and grateful thank you to @frankberry !
Thank you. We also heard from several other sites about that character and his incessant abuse of message boards. So we wrote the new heading on the site and proceeded to ban daddyoo. Unfortunately, we are told this spammer and bigot is known elsewhere for his attempts to use multiple names, so we'll be watching for him.

Attention mr. daddyoo: don't waste your time.
 
It would be nice if we could look at what happened in this thread--and the end result--as an opportunity to remember the (probable) reason we're all here. It's so great having a place to share all of our nerdy thoughts & ideas and seek out the same from folks who share our common interest in broadcasting. I hope we can acknowledge and appreciate that.

Most of us are well-intentioned and friendly but it does appear that some really just like bickering and arguing at every possible opportunity. That doesn't get anyone anywhere and it can certainly leave a bad taste in the mouths of others (for definite want of a different term--haha) when they see your user name on the screen. By no means am I suggesting that we can't disagree with one another but I'd like to see those disagreements be more consistently respectful. The disagreements just for the sake of disagreeing only lead to going around and around with no real purpose. If you've said that you disagree and given your reasons, you can almost certainly expect a conversation to ensue--which is exactly what should happen! But continuing to post your same points repeatedly by just paraphrasing your initial disagreement or simply digging in your heels just comes across as combative & unfriendly. After all, we're not here to "win" anything. We're here because we're a community! Yeah, I'm preaching about PEACE but also taking the opportunity to say that I appreciate y'all. Hope you all have a great rest of the day! ☮️
 
Conversations, heated ones, too, can be so great-100%. At times things may be quiet, but lulls are preferable to the spamming and agitation based on things like ethnicity, culture et al, at least from my perspective as a user.
 
Some brains just aren't wired for multiple languages unless you start very young.
That is what an Irishman named Benny Lewis thought when he was a young adult. That was until he discovered a way to learn enough of a language to be able to converse with people on a basic level within three months. Today, he speaks several languages.

I agree with Benny that it is not too late to learn a language or to become conversant in a language that you learned previously. It takes desire and dedication to do this. Benny claims that one can become fluent in a new language in three months; however, my experience shows that it can take a lot longer to do so, depending on several factors. The important thing is that one practices the language on a regular basis.

One way you can increase your exposure to other languages is by subscribing to Disney+. Most of the programs and movies on Disney+ have been dubbed into several of the major Western European languages, including Latin American Spanish, French, and Brazilian Portuguese. Thanks to Disney+, I have an enormous selection of programs that I can watch in Brazilian Portuguese and Italian. This availability of dubbing into several languages is one of the things that makes Disney+ unique among the streaming services in the US.
 
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