True. But CFTR could be much easier if they were on day pattern. The CFTR day signa gets out pretty well. I can usually hear it (barely) during daytime in Detroit, and that's a little over 200 miles. So if they were on day pattern for whatever reason, I could see where CFTR wouldn't be totally impossible in the Pacific Northwest.
Guys, I was looking through my logbook, and it
wasn't CFTR after all! When I posted here, I was was going by memory, and memory is a faulty thing. From memory I confused 680 with 640.
It was
CFMJ Toronto 640 that I heard the night I also logged CFZM,
NOT CFTR. As we know, 640 out west is pretty spare -- most nights here it's a grainy KFI, alone on the frequency And obviously the night in question (January 15th, 2019, around 1 a.m. PST) conditions were open to the east. I think I was using my Select-A-Tenna, but with my Panasonic RF-B45. I used the loop to bring both stations up, because there were obviously other stations on the frequencies involved. The RF-B45 is a great radio alone but living where I do a loop is sometimes necessary to increase signals for IDs and the like.
So it was
CFMJ 640 I heard that night, not CFTR! I still hold it up to freak DX conditions. There were several mentions of Toronto on 640 and a spot for an auto body shop in Toronto., along with talk.
It's rare enough for me to hear Chicago, much less Ontario. WJR comes in maybe 5-7 times a year, and KSTP comes in fairly frequently with readable signals, but even though the hole I live in has a large opening to the east, stations E of the Mississippi are rare unless the conditions are excellent.
My apologies for any confusion. It's not my way to make up DX catches, or exaggerate, and hopefully I didn't come across that way here. One thing I've learned is I need to have a logbook handy when noting things down on forums, otherwise these sorts of things can happen.
Egg on my face over this confusion, but that sometimes happens in DXing. Peace.