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97 Rock REALLY steps in it

Neaverth doesn't understand the crime. This isn't cancel culture, this is employee harassment, and its a human resources issue. Attacking people for the color of their skin is NOT entertaining. Neaverth is coming at this as a boomer who simply doesn't understand. It's not funny. It wasn't funny 40 years ago, and its not funny now.

The other thing he got wrong is that their careers are over. Their careers are over if they don't attempt to correct their behavior, if they don't reach out to the black community, and try to understand why what they did was hurtful to others. Imus was able to get rehired after getting fired from CBS. He was able to extend his career for another ten or so years until he retired.
The article says Neavereth is 82. He's trying to defend the indefensible. So what if the term "Mulatto" was used and Lederman only likes black skin if it's not "Too Dark".

These people don't get it and never will. They exist in a vacuum. If they had not planned this absurd bit, they all would have their jobs.
(Well maybe -- Downsizing is just reality).
The Pity Party for the poor morning show crew is unnecessary. Actions have consequences. Neavereth doesn't get that...
 
Not even sure why Pergament would consider Neaverth relevant to the matter. Maybe nothing more than an alternate perspective from his own(?). Simply filler(?). I dunno. I started to read the column... got kinda bored with it... then apathetic... stopped reading, and scanned the balance. As Oscar Wilde said - With age comes wisdom (yes, I know, not literally or universally true, but there is some validity in the statement.). It is fascinating to watch the circus that the station/owners ignited.
 
Not even sure why Pergament would consider Neaverth relevant to the matter. Maybe nothing more than an alternate perspective from his own(?). Simply filler(?). I dunno. I started to read the column... got kinda bored with it... then apathetic... stopped reading, and scanned the balance. As Oscar Wilde said - With age comes wisdom (yes, I know, not literally or universally true, but there is some validity in the statement.). It is fascinating to watch the circus that the station/owners ignited.
The station ownership didn't ignite anything. The idiotic Morning Show did (and the PD who went along). Keep in mind they uploaded the offensive segment to the station podcast AFTER it aired live. They showed total ignorance.

Sounds like this old geezer just wanted some publicity for himself. Maybe he applied for the Morning gig and hasn't heard back from Cumulus. The whole article is very strange. Two old white guys trying to defend offensive "Comedy" because they long for the "Good Ole Days" of Radio...
 
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Neaverth is not a boomer. He's a legacy who appealed to boomers in their prime. He sees this situation from the perspective of an 82 year old market veteran. To a certain demographic, he personifies the golden age of Top 40 personality radio. His opinions reflect his personal and professional experiences, as he has stated in the article, from a time when Buffalo Top 40 radio was personality driven in all dayparts and a time when racial or gender discrimination was viewed differently. This is not to imply in any way that he condones such discrimination, rather he sees Cumulus' remedy as being extreme. That he spoke in defense of the Cumulus employees who were fired offers some consolation, but the die has been cast and there's no turning back.
 
The station ownership didn't ignite anything. The idiotic Morning Show did (and the PD who went along).
We don't know that the PD "went along" with it. PDs don't, generally, review all the bits and parts of each episode of a morning show. Generally, they work with the show for guidance so it's a good fit with the rest of the format and so that the structure conforms to the station's best practices for ratings success.

This is where I have to ask you, even in general terms, if you have any "inside the building" radio experience that allows you to make conclusions such as this assumption that the PD of a station approves every piece of the content of a morning show.
Keep in mind they uploaded the offensive segment to the station podcast AFTER it aired live. They showed total ignorance.
Likely the uploading was automated. Many morning shows record when the studio is live, and that content is dumped into the podcast file for that day. In some cases there is no editing and in others the service elements like traffic and song intros are removed.
Sounds like this old geezer just wanted some publicity for himself. Maybe he applied for the Morning gig and hasn't heard back from Cumulus. The whole article is very strange. Two old white guys trying to defend offensive "Comedy" because they long for the "Good Ole Days" of Radio...
While there is no excuse for that particular bit, the fact is that it is very hard for radio people of any generation to keep up with the changing attitudes in different sectors of society. It is even hard to understand when words have taken on new meanings and some previously acceptable terms are now dangerous or have changed definition.
 
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Two old white guys trying to defend offensive "Comedy" because they long for the "Good Ole Days" of Radio...
Obviously what's acceptable (especially regarding comedy) or even in good taste have changed. For those who were "in the business" back in the day, I think it's sometimes difficult for them to understand that times and attitudes have changed, and what's more, they may struggle to understand why. I recall seeing things on late night TV years ago (Don Rickles jokingly trying to speak jive to a black staff member, for instance), which got laughs back then, but may only draw a few uneasy chuckles today. On Jerry Lewis' MDA telethon in 2007 he was joking with a TV crew and called him a 3 letter gay slur. It was played over and over on radio and TV and Lewis was basically labeled a dinosaur from a different era who needed to go away.

It reminds me slightly of the time I was trying to explain to my dad why younger couples are sometimes hesitant to leave their infants especially, in the care of their older parents, as some "remedies" and relatively common ways of treating children back in their day are now contra-indicated and in some cases have been found to be unsafe, yet older folks can sometimes be stubborn when that's explained to them. He immediately launched into "Well all I can say is our kids turned out alright, we raised all you kids and never had a problem". Rather than listening and trying to understand, he immediately became the very stereotype I was describing to him.
 
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Nevertheless, Cumulus held him responsible.
He was terminated after they concluded their "investigation" of the incident...
That is Cumulus covering its hind quarters. PDs just don't control every moment of personality shows.

You did not answer my question about the depth of your inside familiarity with the radio business.
 
Obviously what's acceptable (especially regarding comedy) or even in good taste have changed. For those who were "in the business" back in the day, I think it's sometimes difficult for them to understand that times and attitudes have changed, and what's more, they may struggle to understand why.
I remember the horrible "My name José Jiménez" character which I found to be very offensive but Bill Dana was a staple with Steve Allen who was immensely popular back then.
 
I remember the horrible "My name José Jiménez" character which I found to be very offensive but Bill Dana was a staple with Steve Allen who was immensely popular back then.
That may have been acceptable humour 50 or 60 years ago, but it was still wrong then. The people who found it offensive had to remain silent. White people also did not speak up to condemn it.

The PD of 97 Rock may not have "controlled" every bit of the morning show content. They all should have known that lame racial jokes and archaic words describing skin colour were unacceptable. The bit got on the air and the PD is responsible. Someone with your experience should know that a PD is responsible for protecting the station license...
 
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That article by Pergament was repeated in today's edition of the News, with a bit more amplification and context added in.

Let me state that I, as no doubt a lot of WNYers, grew up listening to Danny Neaverth. In some ways, he was the reason why I wanted to go into radio(majoring in broadcasting at Buffalo State). My take: Though his perspective is welcomed, he's really comparing apples to oranges. What worked back in his time does NOT work now. And it's not just in terms of content, but what radio has now become.
 
this is still trending ?

the actual bit and talent is old news.
Interesting question in my mind. I'd say that as a expressive trend, it is not. Those that had wished to present their thoughts, have done so. The bit was bad; The bit was fine; The station/owner reaction was good; The station/owner reaction was bad; etc, etc, etc. Al are equivalently valid and acceptable opinions/perceptions. And they have been tossed into the mix.

As a passive trend, I'd imagine it remains quite strong. It lies in the weeds waiting (possibly hoping) to be able to pounce on it's next prey. Everything has it's predator. Everything.
 
So Why don’t they just put Cindy Chan and Anita West on in the AM until they figure out what to do for AM drive? If neither want to do early morning shift Russo to morning and put them there. It gives the station the much needed female voices and they are veterans of the station!
 
So Why don’t they just put Cindy Chan and Anita West on in the AM until they figure out what to do for AM drive? If neither want to do early morning shift Russo to morning and put them there. It gives the station the much needed female voices and they are veterans of the station!
Don't hold your breath on that Cindy Chan and Anita West idea. Word is they may not be big fans of each other.
 
New PD has been named for 97 Rock. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss:

https://news.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n40606
 
Joe will have to change his last name. Carl won't stand for another Russo in what he considers to be his domain.
 
New PD has been named for 97 Rock. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss:

https://news.****************/cgi-bin/rol.exe/headline_id=n40606
Almost. Article says he was the PD at JACK at one time. Since Cumulus usually requires their PDs to host an air shift, will someone be displaced by his arrival? Perhaps the other Russo fellow you just mentioned.

He's dropping from market #34 to #59. That's a step back, unless it was his request...
 
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