My listening g to KFI, though limited, goes back to the 60's. Limited because I only listened via skywave at night until streaming came along. About the time Rush Limbaugh came along my KFI listening dropped WAY off. Then eventually I found Tim Conway Jr. I dug his humor and just his rather unique presentation. BUT, hearing him recently downplaying COVID vaccination. He'll probably deny that he is knocking on the vaccines but that is BS. He is catering to the "anti-vaxers", and I'm done with him- he was the only thing anymore that I could stand on the station. John n Ken? give me a break! You know all of these host "teams", all they are are 'yes men', there to support, repeat and re-enforce whatever the other says.
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I'm done with KFI and Tim Conway
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I didn't hear much of his programs this past week, but what was he saying about the vaccines specifically?
You do realize that all three vaccines are only approved for emergency use only; none of them have been officially approved and accepted for non-emergency use by the FDA? And you do realize there are some significant risks that may make the vaccine not risk appropriate for some individuals? For example, the FDAs own website says the following for the Pfizer Vaccine
(https://www.fda.gov/media/144414/download):
WHAT ARE THE RISKS OF THE PFIZER-BIONTECH COVID-19 VACCINE?
There is a remote chance that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine could cause a
severe allergic reaction. A severe allergic reaction would usually occur within a few
minutes to one hour after getting a dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. For
this reason, your vaccination provider may ask you to stay at the place where you
received your vaccine for monitoring after vaccination. Signs of a severe allergic
reaction can include:
• Difficulty breathing
• Swelling of your face and throat
• A fast heartbeat
• A bad rash all over your body
• Dizziness and weakness
Myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining
outside the heart) have occurred in some people who have received the Pfizer-BioNTech
COVID-19 Vaccine. In most of these people, symptoms began within a few days following
receipt of the second dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. The chance of having
this occur is very low. You should seek medical attention right away if you have any of the
following symptoms after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine:
• Chest pain
• Shortness of breath
• Feelings of having a fast-beating, fluttering, or pounding heart.
Side effects that have been reported with the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine
include:
• severe allergic reactions
• non-severe allergic reactions such as rash, itching, hives, or swelling of the face
• myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle)
• pericarditis (inflammation of the lining outside the heart)
• injection site pain
• tiredness
• headache
• muscle pain
• chills
• joint pain
• fever
• injection site swelling
4 Revised: 25 June 2021
• injection site redness
• nausea
• feeling unwell
• swollen lymph nodes (lymphadenopathy)
• diarrhea
• vomiting
• arm pain
These may not be all the possible side effects of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19
Vaccine. Serious and unexpected side effects may occur. Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19
Vaccine is still being studied in clinical trials. (my emphasis).
Again, to reiterate, this is not my language or the language of any anti-vaxx consipiracists, this is language from the FDA's own website, link provided above.
So now that you know some facts that you may not have known before, you might be able to understand that whether or not to take the vaccine is a personal health decision each individual should make for themselves, or in private consultation with their doctor, and it would be most irresponsible for any radio station or host to unequivocally advocate the taking or not of the vaccine. Giving their opinions on the efficacy and safety of the vaccines is another matter. Everyone has an opinion, and for at least a few more years, in this country you are free to share them, even on the radio. I have not heard Conway's show, but my guess is that he was giving his own opinion and nothing else. It is, after all, an opinion-based entertainment show. If you don't like the opinions he is giving, you are free to flip the channel.
typical "I was a fan until he stopped agreeing with me" post
If you read the cautionary notes on almost any prescription drug, they are far more extensive and cautionary than the caveats about the Pfizer vaccine for Covid.
Some of those note "pages" are in tiny type (like 6 point) on a page bigger than an 8" x 14" legal page.
Yet when I was prescribed Hydrocodone for an injury, the cautionary notes were a tiny slip of paper. Yet thousands die each year from the use of that and other opioids.
It makes you wonder about whether any of those cautionary notes are of any use except to satisfy government officials.
Similarly, California has required every product that has any risk at all to have a warning on the label. Since some are known to be harmless unless one eats 1,000 pounds of the subject or inhales it for 100 years 12 hours a day, what I do... and what everyone I know does... is ignore the notices entirely. That is a greater risk than only putting notices on extremely dangerous things.
If you are willing to take risks that you deem to be minimal because you feel they are perfunctory and not relevant to your particular situation, you are welcome to do so. I nor society at large has ever held those decisions against you.
Others take the fact that virtually none of these vaccines have been fully accepted by the FDA seriously, especially knowing that possibly over 5,000 people (mostly young people who have the least amount of risk from COVID-19) have died from the myocarditis and pericarditis, quite seriously. Their concerns are just as valid as your lack of them, particularly as it may relate to their own health situation.
I am sure you are not advocating that everyone take your same lackadaisical attitude towards these risk warnings, as that too would be totally irresponsible.
BINGO! There's your saving phrase-- and all that stuff you cut n paste - so what? legal-ez blah blah blah how many have died from COVID vs how many 'tragic effects' from vaccines? Now you'll have numbers for ALL the 'unreported' and 'uncounted' or mis-diagnosed blah blah blah
For that reason when I got the vaccine, the person giving it to me asked several times if I am allergic to anything. I was also asked if I had any heart problems. The vaccine isn't available as an over-the-counter medication. So a doctor or medical professional will be involved. But once again, with all the warnings about taking the vaccine, the chances of any side effects are LOW.
However, if you don't get the vaccine, and don't take any precautions, chances are HIGH that you'll get infected. For example in California right now, 99% of the people who are infected were not vaccinated:
CBS Boston - Breaking News, Sports, Weather, I-Team Investigations
Latest breaking news from WBZ-TV CBS Boston.
boston.cbslocal.com
So as Clint Eastwood said: Do you feel lucky, punk?
My other question to all of the anti-vaxxers: When the FDA gives it's full approval to Pfizer, as it likely will in a few months, will any of them come out and revise their opinions based on the new guidance?
Actually there are many people who have never received the vaccine nor ever been infected. I know several of them personally. And if they do eventually get it, did I mention the overall 99% survival rate, even higher among those without co-morbidities such as diabetes? I always try to tell both sides of the story, the vaccine also has an overall 99%+ survival rate. But the risks of the disease itself are now far more widely known than the risks of the vaccine. Again, not my wording, the FDA says so itself.For that reason when I got the vaccine, the person giving it to me asked several times if I am allergic to anything. I was also asked if I had any heart problems. The vaccine isn't available as an over-the-counter medication. So a doctor or medical professional will be involved. But once again, with all the warnings about taking the vaccine, the chances of any side effects are LOW.
However, if you don't get the vaccine, and don't take any precautions, chances are HIGH that you'll get infected. For example in California right now, 99% of the people who are infected were not vaccinated:
CBS Boston - Breaking News, Sports, Weather, I-Team Investigations
Latest breaking news from WBZ-TV CBS Boston.
So as Clint Eastwood said: Do you feel lucky, punk?
My other question to all of the anti-vaxxers: When the FDA gives it's full approval to Pfizer, as it likely will in a few months, will any of them come out and revise their opinions based on the new guidance?[/i]
But with all information in, they consider the risk of COVID to be less than the risk of the vaccine. Most of them are not "anti-vaxxers", they are intelligent people who have considered both the risks of the virus and the risks of the vaccines and have chosen for themselves on this one; most have also taken other vaccines in the past which have much better documented safety records.
Sounds like you are amongst a certain set of people who want to ostracize those who have not taken the vaccine, even though they present less than an infinitesimal direct risk to you.
Oh, by the way, that "99% of new COVID cases are in the un-vaccinated population" story is already starting to crumble. It was not very believable in the first place, but just to give two examples, five of the planeload of Democrats who left Texas to go to DC were found to be COVID positive, even though they all had stated that they were fully vaccinated:For that reason when I got the vaccine, the person giving it to me asked several times if I am allergic to anything. I was also asked if I had any heart problems. The vaccine isn't available as an over-the-counter medication. So a doctor or medical professional will be involved. But once again, with all the warnings about taking the vaccine, the chances of any side effects are LOW.
However, if you don't get the vaccine, and don't take any precautions, chances are HIGH that you'll get infected. For example in California right now, 99% of the people who are infected were not vaccinated:
CBS Boston - Breaking News, Sports, Weather, I-Team Investigations
Latest breaking news from WBZ-TV CBS Boston.
So as Clint Eastwood said: Do you feel lucky, punk?
My other question to all of the anti-vaxxers: When the FDA gives it's full approval to Pfizer, as it likely will in a few months, will any of them come out and revise their opinions based on the new guidance?
Number of Texas state Democrats to test positive for COVID-19 rises to 5
Two more Texas state Democrats have tested positive for COVID-19 after traveling to Washington, D.C., last week, bringing the total number of cases to five as of Sunday evening.The Texas House…
thehill.com
And it is becoming clear in Israel that the Pfizer vaccine is not particularly effective against the delta variant. The only way the could know that is by fully vaccinated individuals getting the virus again.
More than 1,000 Israelis test positive for COVID | The Jerusalem Post
PM Bennett: Vaccine ‘significantly less’ effective against the Delta variant
www.jpost.com
I'm not in the "ostracize" business. People can do whatever they want, as long as they don't expose me to the virus.
How do we know they were fully vaccinated? Their state has outlawed vaccine passports. We have no way to be sure.
I have never known a Democrat who shirks their responsibilities to faithfully represent their districts in the Texas Legislature by taking a flight out of state with the specific intention of missing critical votes to lie. I believe them implicitly. Shouldn't I?
I also look at statistics, and I find the Coronavirus vaccine far less risky than the alternatives. I also believe that I have a personal responsibility to the society I live in to not become a transmitter of the disease by becoming infected and giving it to someone who is more vulnerable than I am.
Well I’m not for it either, yet such ostracizing is not only understandable but… I very much expect it now. Pretty much par for the course.
I got my two shots, I’m fine. Can’t summon google by tapping my shoulder (oh well) but more importantly, I won’t get people I care about sick.
That’s all that matters.
Are you sure? Don't you want to bring in the cyber ninjas to do an audit?
Not everyone agrees with you (thankfully).
You are transmitting viruses and bacteria (and receiving the same) every time you interact with another person whether you know it or not. Getting the vaccine does not prevent you from being a spreader - see stories I have already posted above. Let's start dealing with facts and not platitudes that does nothing but allow you unearned self-righteousness.
I can expect the truth from them. Shirking Democrats, not so much.
oh they're probably still in that remote cabin in faraway Montana trying to avoid the inevitable lol
Instead of accepting it you should be condeming it. We are all Americans with God given rights, and all people, vaccine takers or not, are doing what they think is best for them and their families. Lot's of people talk about tolerance but rarely exhibit it. This is your chance.
"I WANT MY MAYPO!! I dont give a sh-- how many die - thats their problem not mine - besides it's the fault of the Dems" Is this what you're saying?
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