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Either CHOK was on day pattern at night or the night pattern was WAAAAY out of whack. Or maybe they were on some sort of STA. Whatever, I was hearing them all the time for a few years, despite the fact that my location should be squarely in the null protecting KNX. Even now, I still hear them every now and then. ,,,,, And I do remember the canned oldies format they were running. I think that format originated from CHUM's broadcast centre.
 
Either CHOK was on day pattern at night or the night pattern was WAAAAY out of whack. Or maybe they were on some sort of STA. Whatever, I was hearing them all the time for a few years, despite the fact that my location should be squarely in the null protecting KNX. Even now, I still hear them every now and then. ,,,,, And I do remember the canned oldies format they were running. I think that format originated from CHUM's broadcast centre.

I'm usually the first to call out someone for saying.. how can you prove theyre cheating? Well several peopel even smarter than me have wondered if some Canadian AM's have been having, erm, issues with their night Da's for years.

When I lived near Dubois, PA i would hear CKNX 920 quite well.. and recorded it one night:
 
A lot of AM stations in Canada were very upset about IBOC sideband interfereerence, and some were reportedly using an official or unofficial "STA" to stay on day power. KYW 1060 could well have been causing a problem for CHOK 1070. CKNX 920 was having problems with WFDF 910 IBOC sidebands also.
 
Either CHOK was on day pattern at night or the night pattern was WAAAAY out of whack. Or maybe they were on some sort of STA. Whatever, I was hearing them all the time for a few years, despite the fact that my location should be squarely in the null protecting KNX. Even now, I still hear them every now and then. ,,,,, And I do remember the canned oldies format they were running. I think that format originated from CHUM's broadcast centre.
If I recall correctly Charlie O'Brien (CKLW, CKWW, CHUM and his own Big8Radio.com) was part of that format (GTO=Good Time Oldies).
 
A lot of AM stations in Canada were very upset about IBOC sideband interfereerence, and some were reportedly using an official or unofficial "STA" to stay on day power. KYW 1060 could well have been causing a problem for CHOK 1070.
When I've heard CKLW on the Edinburgh IN SDR, it doesn't seem to be changing patter. When I was growing up, CKLW had a huge daytime signal at my Western Ohio home. We seemed to get a big share of that 50kW. Lots of folks have fond memories of listening to The Big 8 at night; but we were in the null toward XEROK. Once in awhile they'd "forget" and we'd get CKLW blasting in on the occasional night, which we were glad of. There seemed to be about a week where they were on night pattern (maybe lower power non-directional) during the daytime though. That sucked in my grade school.
 
I'm usually the first to call out someone for saying.. how can you prove theyre cheating? Well several peopel even smarter than me have wondered if some Canadian AM's have been having, erm, issues with their night Da's for years.
I've wondered the same thing. You're more knowledgeable about this sort of stuff than me, but I've wondered if "what's up" with Canadian AMs isn't "cheating" in the classical sense, but has more to do with having to deal with DA patterns that are complicated and expensive to maintain. As stated earlier, CHOK was fairly regular here in the Chicago area for several years. Other examples of signals being here at my location , that shouldn't be are CJOB, CKOC, and the now-defunct (on AM) CKCY. And that's just off the top of my head.. My guess....and it's just a guess....is that the CRTC looks the other way until if and when someone complains.
 
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Well, we can scratch the Indianapolis 1070, WFNI/ex-WIBC off the list of potential pests for those of us in the midwest who've been trying to snag KNX. As reported in another thread, it appears to have been shut down. Of course, this could also open the door for other DX opportunities,
 
Well, we can scratch the Indianapolis 1070, WFNI/ex-WIBC off the list of potential pests for those of us in the midwest who've been trying to snag KNX. As reported in another thread, it appears to have been shut down. Of course, this could also open the door for other DX opportunities,
Still on the air today but likely, going off the air soon...

Bob
 
Well, we can scratch the Indianapolis 1070, WFNI/ex-WIBC off the list of potential pests for those of us in the midwest who've been trying to snag KNX. As reported in another thread, it appears to have been shut down. Of course, this could also open the door for other DX opportunities,

Going off in definitely August 2nd, but theyre not saying permanently. It'll probably come back at lower power.. diplexed into a single stick at someone elses site.

I'm wagering 10kw day 250 watts night or less
 
All Access says August 2.

A lot depends on the skywave model used originally to protect KNX and CBA. In the old days, as I recall, they had to protect CBA outside of Canada. I'll look it up.
 
Going off in definitely August 2nd, but theyre not saying permanently. It'll probably come back at lower power.. diplexed into a single stick at someone elses site.

I'm wagering 10kw day 250 watts night or less
I'm going 5 days, though 10 might work. It has nulls but on paper it's not that directional.
 
I'm going 5 days, though 10 might work. It has nulls but on paper it's not that directional.
what i missed was.. the fan format continues on an hd2 and 2 translators.

Id honestly say that 1070 coming back at all is alot less likely, knowing that
 

As others have mentioned before me, WFNI AM 1070 out of Indianapolis going silent “indefinitely” might help DXer’s in the Midwest snag KNX. Should make things interesting at the very least. Only time will tell!
 
I've wondered the same thing. You're more knowledgeable about this sort of stuff than me, but I've wondered if "what's up" with Canadian AMs isn't "cheating" in the classical sense, but has more to do with having to deal with DA patterns that are complicated and expensive to maintain. As stated earlier, CHOK was fairly regular here in the Chicago area for several years. Other examples of signals being here at my location , that shouldn't be are CJOB, CKOC, and the now-defunct (on AM) CKCY. And that's just off the top of my head.. My guess....and it's just a guess....is that the CRTC looks the other way until if and when someone complains.
This phenomenon might also be behind what I have experienced in the Pacific Northwest with the aforementioned KNX 1070. Last time I drove up the Pacific Coast from San Diego all the way up to Vancouver, BC (via US 101 from Los Angeles to Olympia, Washington) I was surprised by how far south CFAX from Victoria, BC started to interfere with the reception of KNX. KNX was in the clear in San Francisco at night, but CFAX would start fighting it out with KNX as far south as Eureka, California. By the time you got to Astoria on the Oregon Coast, CFAX would be on top most of the time over KNX. Now CFAX supposedly has a null south to protect KNX, but it was hard to believe that when I was traveling up the Oregon and Washington coast!
 
CFAX is the only thing in the way of KNX up here. I rarely get anything else on 1070 at night. There's so many to try for - Wichita, Hannibal MO, Memphis, Houston. Nothing else comes in. Very occasionally I hear KATQ Plentywood MT at 6AM during October when we have the latest DST sunrises.
 
CFAX is the only thing in the way of KNX up here. I rarely get anything else on 1070 at night. There's so many to try for - Wichita, Hannibal MO, Memphis, Houston. Nothing else comes in. Very occasionally I hear KATQ Plentywood MT at 6AM during October when we have the latest DST sunrises.

KATQ got night power in the last decade.. 49.5 watts.

why 49.5?
49 didnt cause overlap with KNX. 50 did.
49.5 was the magic number.. the max they coiuld get with no overlap.

I read the fcc paperwork.

1070 can be a mix of KNX and CFAX here
 
And you're in Alaska, so CFAX probably puts some signal up towards Anchorage. Albeit, off-topic, if you were in Laramie today you would have had a WA state feast on FM...and I tried once again for Hits 106. KQSW was in. KTRR was in. But nothing on 106.1! It keeps getting away from me even if KUWR pumps out 80% signal towards me. I want to hear Paul's voice on Es dangit! ☺️
 
This phenomenon might also be behind what I have experienced in the Pacific Northwest with the aforementioned KNX 1070. Last time I drove up the Pacific Coast from San Diego all the way up to Vancouver, BC (via US 101 from Los Angeles to Olympia, Washington) I was surprised by how far south CFAX from Victoria, BC started to interfere with the reception of KNX. KNX was in the clear in San Francisco at night, but CFAX would start fighting it out with KNX as far south as Eureka, California. By the time you got to Astoria on the Oregon Coast, CFAX would be on top most of the time over KNX. Now CFAX supposedly has a null south to protect KNX, but it was hard to believe that when I was traveling up the Oregon and Washington coast!
The distances between cities up there are pretty big... in fact Victoria BC is closer to Eureka than Eureka is to LA. KNX doesn't really aim towards the northwest either, so this might be why they start competing with each other as far south as Eureka.
 


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