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TOPIC: WMLO 1570 ALL NEWS

TOPIC: WMLO 1570 ALL NEWS

Does anybody know when in 1977 WMLO went to an All News format and was it live and local or did they use a network?

Thanks Tommy C.
 
TOPIC: WMLO 1570 ALL NEWS

Does anybody know when in 1977 WMLO went to an All News format and was it live and local or did they use a network?
That was the era of NBC's NIS.

 
I remember around 1978 WMLO had a newsblock in the morning but did not know they were all news. I do not recall them ever being affiliated with the shortlived NBC NIS service.
 
Not WMLO related, but, it is news related. I have a question about editing. When a newsreader makes a mistake and then corrects what he/she says, who is responsible for removing the error? For instance, Madison Rogers has been doing a news item all afternoon about a missing 33 y/o man and she says, "authorities are looking for a missing 33 y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club. A missing thirty three y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club since 1:30am." ????????
 
Not WMLO related, but, it is news related. I have a question about editing. When a newsreader makes a mistake and then corrects what he/she says, who is responsible for removing the error? For instance, Madison Rogers has been doing a news item all afternoon about a missing 33 y/o man and she says, "authorities are looking for a missing 33 y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club. A missing thirty three y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club since 1:30am." ????????
Until the missing person (whether deceased or lost or abducted or whatever) is found, they are, in fact, "missing". So, until the person's body was found, they were accurately reported as "missing". The fact that the body was found does not change the early reports of the person being missing.
 
I have a question about editing. When a newsreader makes a mistake and then corrects what he/she says, who is responsible for removing the error?

So you're saying there was a pick-up where the reader said the same thing a second time? Usually if its just a correction, then its up to the reader to fix it. If the reader did two takes, one for early use, the second for later use, then it's up to the newscast producer. Assuming that the newsroom operates with a producer. The second take gave the time, and the first didn't. There might be a reason for giving the time.
 
Until the missing person (whether deceased or lost or abducted or whatever) is found, they are, in fact, "missing". So, until the person's body was found, they were accurately reported as "missing". The fact that the body was found does not change the early reports of the person being missing.
Thanks, but, that's not what I was asking. I wasn't questioning whether the person was missing, I was questioning why she repeated the exact same sentence twice and the second time she add "since 1:30am". Why repeat the exact same sentence twice only to add two words? Shouldn't someone have actually listened to this and just deleted the first sentence??

"authorities are looking for a missing 33 y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club. A missing thirty three y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club since 1:30am." ????????
 
So you're saying there was a pick-up where the reader said the same thing a second time? Usually if its just a correction, then its up to the reader to fix it. If the reader did two takes, one for early use, the second for later use, then it's up to the newscast producer. Assuming that the newsroom operates with a producer. The second take gave the time, and the first didn't. There might be a reason for giving the time.
Thanks for responding. I'm not questioning why she gave a time. I'm questioning why she repeated the exact same sentence twice and added the time in the second one.

"authorities are looking for a missing 33 y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club. A missing thirty three y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club since 1:30am." ????????

Why not just delete the first "a missing 33 y/o man named (insert name) who has been missing from a boat club" and leave the second sentence where she says the time?? Why repeat the exact same thing twice? Are people too stupid to comprehend that someone went missing?
 
Could anyone tell me whether the newscasters on WBZ read from paper copy, or from a computer monitor?

I suppose anything's possible when you're live on the air, but I tend to think reading from a monitor has got to be tough on the eyes for hours at a time. I didn't hear Madison's reading of this particular news item, but either she lost her place while reading paper copy, or what she read from the monitor should've been edited better.

I think 'BZ made a mistake in having a single anchor on air for 4-5 hours at a time. The older method, with two (or sometimes even three) anchors gave more time for the idle anchors (not on-air at the moment) to research/rehearse/rewrite copy, at the very least, and also allow them to interview newsmakers by phone for later airing. It would be nice if they brought this system back. It seems they have enough personnel to do so.
 
Could anyone tell me whether the newscasters on WBZ read from paper copy, or from a computer monitor?

I suppose anything's possible when you're live on the air, but I tend to think reading from a monitor has got to be tough on the eyes for hours at a time. I didn't hear Madison's reading of this particular news item, but either she lost her place while reading paper copy, or what she read from the monitor should've been edited better.

I think 'BZ made a mistake in having a single anchor on air for 4-5 hours at a time. The older method, with two (or sometimes even three) anchors gave more time for the idle anchors (not on-air at the moment) to research/rehearse/rewrite copy, at the very least, and also allow them to interview newsmakers by phone for later airing. It would be nice if they brought this system back. It seems they have enough personnel to do so.
On Talk1200 the news isn't live, unfortunately. It's recorded once in the morning by a WBZ news person and replays for hours on end, then, someone else records the same news, changes up the words here and there, maybe adds a new story and then that airs for hours on end. That's what happened Sunday afternoon, same tired newscast over and over and over, same mistake, over and over and over, which proves that no one from the station actually listens to the station. Modern technology can be more of a hindrance sometimes.
 
You have made your point over and over again. No one listens to the station. That's simply the economics of it today and yes mistakes will happen. What would you prefer they do shut it off?
 
You have made your point over and over again. No one listens to the station. That's simply the economics of it today and yes mistakes will happen. What would you prefer they do shut it off?
It's attitudes like yours that are causing these mistakes. No one takes pride in their work anymore, just chalk it up to "the economics of today", shame on you. What would I prefer they do? I would prefer they get someone in the damn building, pay them to program things correctly, teach them how to take pride in what they do, teach them how to listen, teach them how to read. I'm guessing this is part of the "everyone gets a trophy" attitude, where no one is singled out for screwing up. Shame on anyone and everyone who allows this to go on and shame on anyone and everyone who makes excuses for it.
 
Shame on anyone and everyone who allows this to go on and shame on anyone and everyone who makes excuses for it.

You're making assumptions that because people make mistakes that they don't take pride in what they do. I see it every day in baseball. These guys make millions of dollars, practice all the time, and they still make mistakes. Pitchers serve up grand slams, infielders drop the ball, and batters strike out. Should they all get fired?
 
It's attitudes like yours that are causing these mistakes. No one takes pride in their work anymore, just chalk it up to "the economics of today", shame on you. What would I prefer they do? I would prefer they get someone in the damn building, pay them to program things correctly, teach them how to take pride in what they do, teach them how to listen, teach them how to read. I'm guessing this is part of the "everyone gets a trophy" attitude, where no one is singled out for screwing up. Shame on anyone and everyone who allows this to go on and shame on anyone and everyone who makes excuses for it.
I think you very nicely explained why "no one listens to the station" (Talk 1200). If "the economics of today" are that bad, and the current station owners just can't do the job of running the station as a DISCERNING listener would expect, then there are two choices: (1) sell the station to a willing, capable, and caring owner (cf. WABC, NY), or (2) just turn the transmitter off and save money on the electric bill. A third option, suggested in Tired's post quoted herein, is still a possibility, too, you know.
 
I think you very nicely explained why "no one listens to the station" (Talk 1200).

The problem at 1200 isn't the technical quality at the station. The problem is the awful programming.

iHeart runs the same group of syndicated shows at KEIB in LA, and the ratings are equally bad.

You talk about "discerning listeners," and it's obvious why they don't listen. I wouldn't either.
 
These guys make millions of dollars, practice all the time, and they still make mistakes. Pitchers serve up grand slams, infielders drop the ball, and batters strike out. Should they all get fired?
They get released or sent to the minor leagues if their performance is judged to be substandard. Of course, in baseball, the bar is set differently for every aspect of the sport. A hitter who does his job 30 percent of the time has nothing to worry about. A fielder who succeeds only 90 percent of the time doesn't even make a major league roster. The outfielder who strikes out nearly 200 times in a season is a valued player if he also hits 40 home runs or chases down everything hit in his general area, but is on the next plane to Toledo or Scranton if he's a singles hitter with no speed.

So what are the standards for a radio station engineer? A program director? A news reader? Is there a magic number of screw-ups one reaches and it's time to clean out the desk and be escorted to the door? Remember, there's nothing like the minor league system in radio, or most other non-sports businesses. So if you're going to fire someone, you've got to have a replacement in mind and ready to step in before you do it.
 
Remember, there's nothing like the minor league system in radio, or most other non-sports businesses. So if you're going to fire someone, you've got to have a replacement in mind and ready to step in before you do it.

Huh? Have you seen how many radio stations iHeart owns and where they are? They own the minor leagues. They have lots of people in small markets who would love a promotion to a union job in Boston.

Everybody works for someone. If you're an engineer, you work for the chief, and the chief works for the director, who works for the VP who works for the market manager who works for the company president. The point of all this is that all of this is done internally, not in public like a reality TV show, where the viewers get to vote on who stays and who goes.
 
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