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KBLA

This morning, I heard Tavis Smiley say his guest on the first hour of his Monday 8/9/21 show will be Larry Elder.
Looking forward to it!
Another unapologeticly non-progressive. hmmmmm
 
They should simply identify as: KBLA Santa Monica-Los Angeles. The FCC changed the ID rules decades ago to allow a station to co-identify with other cities within their market. Previously they had to ask the FCC for permission. Interestingly in 1580 KDAY's peak years they DID ask permission to identify as Santa Monica-Los Angeles and were rejected. 1110 KRLA Pasadena did the same thing and they were rejected also. The Commission's "reasoning" back then was that radio stations are only licensed to serve their City of License and everything else is incidental!
 
They should simply identify as: KBLA Santa Monica-Los Angeles. The FCC changed the ID rules decades ago to allow a station to co-identify with other cities within their market. Previously they had to ask the FCC for permission. Interestingly in 1580 KDAY's peak years they DID ask permission to identify as Santa Monica-Los Angeles and were rejected. 1110 KRLA Pasadena did the same thing and they were rejected also. The Commission's "reasoning" back then was that radio stations are only licensed to serve their City of License and everything else is incidental!


when did the fcc ever tell you what you could say after calls and city of license?

As far as I'm aware, my station could say "KSKO MCGrath, Anchorage" ever since it signed on 40 years ago, even when it went from a 10kw AM to a 100 W FM with repeaters 5 years ago.... even though Anchorage is 230 miles away and the AM never covered anchorage at all, reliably
 
when did the fcc ever tell you what you could say after calls and city of license?

As far as I'm aware, my station could say "KSKO MCGrath, Anchorage" ever since it signed on 40 years ago, even when it went from a 10kw AM to a 100 W FM with repeaters 5 years ago.... even though Anchorage is 230 miles away and the AM never covered anchorage at all, reliably
In 1983 or thereabouts the station ID rules were relaxed, and you could say any city after the City of License. Before, you had to get permission from the FCC and only if the additional community was within the principal contour.

In the old days a station, let's say KTVU, Channel 2 licensed to Oakland had to get approval to Identify as KTVU, Oakland/San Francisco. When the rules were relaxed, they were able to add San Jose which is outside of the primary contour.

If you look at the FCC history cards available online, you will see examples of permission granted on stations like, KTVU, Oakland (San Francisco), KOVR Stockton (Sacramento), KVEA Corona (Los Angeles).

Go to fccinfo.com and look up a station in existence prior to 1980.
 
In 1983 or thereabouts the station ID rules were relaxed, and you could say any city after the City of License. Before, you had to get permission from the FCC and only if the additional community was within the principal contour.

In the old days a station, let's say KTVU, Channel 2 licensed to Oakland had to get approval to Identify as KTVU, Oakland/San Francisco. When the rules were relaxed, they were able to add San Jose which is outside of the primary contour.
At that early time, such was named a "dual city ID" and was part of the station's authorization. Today, after naming the legal city (or cities) of license, you can name any city or location you want.

If you want a fun project, be responsible for a station licensed to a town that is annexed by another city where the city of license no longer exists. A half-century ago, I had such a case and it took over a year to convince the FCC that "Río Piedras" no longer existed and WUNO was now in San Juan.
There's a long list of acceptable insertions within 73.1201. Frequency is one, but it's not the only one.
I find the most amusing is when an AM-FM with separate calls ID's as "WAAA-AM and WZZZ-FM, Anytown" when AM's don't have a suffix (they were, of course, first in the game) and FMs only have the "FM" suffix if there is an AM with those calls.
 
If you want a fun project, be responsible for a station licensed to a town that is annexed by another city where the city of license no longer exists. A half-century ago, I had such a case and it took over a year to convince the FCC that "Río Piedras" no longer existed and WUNO was now in San Juan.
I find interesting, KCSN is licensed to Northridge, which entirely fits within the City of Los Angeles. It could be due to it's limited coverage and the fact that the post office recognizes it as a separate community.
 
I find interesting, KCSN is licensed to Northridge, which entirely fits within the City of Los Angeles. It could be due to it's limited coverage and the fact that the post office recognizes it as a separate community.
The most famous non-city is Hollywood.

LA is full of such "places" that are really large neighborhoods and not separate communities. Van Nuys, Sherman Oaks, North Hollywood, Toluca Lake, Studio City and on and on.
 
I love it!
For radio, the key sentence is, "That the name of the licensee, the station’s frequency, the station’s channel number, as stated on the station’s license, and/or the station’s network affiliation may be inserted between the call letters and station location. ".
 
The most famous non-city is Hollywood.

LA is full of such "places" that are really large neighborhoods and not separate communities. Van Nuys, Sherman Oaks, North Hollywood, Toluca Lake, Studio City and on and on.
Years ago we had an election to break the SFV away from Los Angeles and be a separate city (we lost). They said it would be too expensive. Funny, the Cities of Burbank, and San Fernando, which are within the SFV seem to be doing just fine!
 
Years ago we had an election to break the SFV away from Los Angeles and be a separate city (we lost). They said it would be too expensive. Funny, the Cities of Burbank, and San Fernando, which are within the SFV seem to be doing just fine!

It's all about having a strong tax base, and Burbank has been very strong for a long time. Walt Disney and the Warner Brothers were looking for cheap land close in, and they found it.
 
Sorry about that. Here's what you can include in station ID's:

Something is wrong... still. I get the AMC Pacer. Instead. Unfortunately.

I think I have to change the oil on my CPU and give a lube job to the power supply.
 
Did KBLA have any impact on KFI's drop?
No. The "July month" is actually partly in June, and in any case, KBLA got a 0.0 in that period.

KFI is always down in July and August... rather typical for an adult format during summer time... even in a pandemic.
 
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