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Any Updates on WRR and KESN?

The deadline for proposals to the city for WRR was July 29th of this year. I haven't heard any news or updates since then. Did I miss it?

Secondly, all the local content on KESN was tossed more than a year ago when the LMA with Cumulus ended with the last remaining "local" content being the Mavs games last season. There were rumors of Good Karma coming in, but nothing ever seemed to materialize. Anyone heard anything?
 
The deadline for proposals to the city for WRR was July 29th of this year. I haven't heard any news or updates since then. Did I miss it?

Secondly, all the local content on KESN was tossed more than a year ago when the LMA with Cumulus ended with the last remaining "local" content being the Mavs games last season. There were rumors of Good Karma coming in, but nothing ever seemed to materialize. Anyone heard anything?
I haven't heard anything, but something needs to happen around here. It's been dead as a door knob in market #5.
 
I haven't heard anything, but something needs to happen around here. It's been dead as a door knob in market #5.
Much of this is because FM has become a very mature medium. Years/decades ago, especially in the pre-consolidation days, you had numerous owners all constantly jockeying for market position and share, thus format flips were not uncommon. Nowadays with a few large group owners you find that stations have settled down into their comfortable market segments. Management is satisfied with the slices of the pie they've carved out, and no longer want to rock the boat. So the FM dial has reached a point of stasis. We've got the same situation here in Houston.

Having said that, it is worth keeping an eye on KVIL, as the ratings are very poor for a Cedar Hill stick. Its future depends on how much Audacy is willing to flog the Alternative format before giving up.

As for WRR, demographic and political change will eventually force a format flip and possible sale. The Classical audience is literally dying off. I enjoy Classical, but I see the writing on the wall.

KESN is a huge question mark. Univision recently flipped one of its Houston FMs to TUDN sportstalk. Perhaps they could be a new owner? Of course it's anyone's guess at this point.
 
I'll believe WRR will change formats when I see it. I suspect the Dallas Symphony will take over running the station. I have no idea if they know how to run a station. I guess we'll find out. It will either work out well, or fail quickly.
 
I'll believe WRR will change formats when I see it. I suspect the Dallas Symphony will take over running the station. I have no idea if they know how to run a station. I guess we'll find out. It will either work out well, or fail quickly.
Symphony orchestras are under tremendous financial stress these days. And yes, they would have no clue as to how to run a radio station. Failure almost guaranteed.
 
Symphony orchestras are under tremendous financial stress these days. And yes, they would have no clue as to how to run a radio station. Failure almost guaranteed.
If they let the folks who are running WRR right now and not change anything, then who know what happens. The DSO may get the "Friends" to pump so more money into the station and keep it viable.
 
Just announced that Good Karma is turning their LMA of WMVP in Chicago to an acquisition. In the deal Good Karma is also picking up ESPN's KSPN Los Angeles and WEPN New York.

KESN was not included, which likely mean there is another deal that will be announced soon or that it is on the block and being shopped around.
 
If they were to acquire it, Service Broadcasting could make a good use of 101.1 by moving KRNB there.

I wonder if Cumulus would make a play for 101.1. It could make a good home for the Ticket. They could divest 96.7 or 93.3.
 
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If they were to acquire it, Service Broadcasting could make a good use of 101.1 by moving KRNB there.

I wonder if Cumulus would make a play for 101.1. It could make a good home for the Ticket. They could divest 96.7 or 93.3.
I don't think 101.1 is being shopped around. There was a deadline in the summer for operational proposals.

103.3 is what seems to be on the block right now and as far as KRNB goes, I think 105.7 is probably the slightly better rimshot signal, although both leave a lot to be desired.
 
I wonder if Cumulus would make a play for 101.1. It could make a good home for the Ticket. They could divest 96.7 or 93.3.


LOL I remember when 96.7 was oldies in 2010 or so, then news/talk repeating the AM. I would have kept the news station on FM instead of moving the sports station.
 
I have read all the speculation. I have nothing to add except that when decisions are made, there is a threshold financially that must be met. Depending on those fixed costs depends of what, if any format changes might occur. The simulcast of anything is very iffy because you must be able to increase your revenue to support the fixed costs of two stations. In other words, just because they do okay on AM doesn't mean they can necessarily double their audience and/or revenue by adding an FM.

As for WRR FM, I doubt anything will happen in the near term. Feathers were ruffled and maybe some extra cash flowed in to the Friends of WRR or through a new client or two for the station. I still contend running the city council meeting is hurting them.
 
As for WRR FM, I doubt anything will happen in the near term. Feathers were ruffled and maybe some extra cash flowed in to the Friends of WRR or through a new client or two for the station. I still contend running the city council meeting is hurting them.
As I have said before, The "Friends" have a lot of influence, otherwise the station would have been sold a long time ago. I contend that if the DSO, operates the station, they will do so with some backing from the "Friends".
 
on the future of 103.3 FM, i think either EMF, one of the Spanish broadcaster or a smaller local company will buy the signal out if Disney sells the station, this is the only thing that Disney owns in this market now, and sadly it's a underperforming sports radio station that lost all things that made them local and not a major market ABC station, how do they own the ABC station in Houston and not WFAA or any DFW TV stations instead, Dallas is a bigger market.
 
on the future of 103.3 FM, i think either EMF, one of the Spanish broadcaster or a smaller local company will buy the signal out if Disney sells the station, this is the only thing that Disney owns in this market now, and sadly it's a underperforming sports radio station that lost all things that made them local and not a major market ABC station, how do they own the ABC station in Houston and not WFAA or any DFW TV stations instead, Dallas is a bigger market.

I can help you with your question. The TV stations in DFW were owned by newspapers (as they were in many markets). The Times Herald owned KRLD-TV (KDFW). The Star Telegram had WBAP-TV (KXAS), and, until recently, the Morning News had WFAA.

The original broadcast owners tended to operate radio and TV stations as side businesses, and, when they started selling out, seven was the maximum number of TV stations any single entity could own. In the case of ABC, it owned newspapers, but it couldn't expand its TV operation much because of the seven station limit and, in either February or March 1975, the FCC implemented the one-to-a-market rule, which prohibited newspapers from owning TV stations. After ABC merged with Capital Cities in the mid-80's, it ended up with the Star Telegram, which, ironically, locked it out of buying any TV stations in DFW. When Disney bought ABC, it couldn't get a one-to-a-market waiver for the Star Telegram and WBAP/KSCS. So, it swapped the Star Telegram and the Kansas City Star to Knight Ridder for some of its papers. Belo, however, sold its entire group to Gannett, which became TEGNA.

When I last lived in DFW in 1996, none of the TV stations were networked owned (unless, maybe, you counted UPN and The WB). After the Times Herald folded, the Los Angeles Times looked at selling its TV stations. New World, which, if I remember correctly, was owned by Marvel Comics, bought its stations (and several others, including most of the former Taft stations) with Fox's backing. Fox bought New World's stations except San Diego and Birmingham, which went to NBC, a year or two after that deal. KXAS was owned by LIN, and NBC bought an interest in LIN that it later swapped for KXAS. It offered LIN WVTM Birmingham in that deal, but LIN assigned that option to Media General (which later ended up buying LIN and is now part of Nexstar). KTVT, which had just switched to CBS Fourth of July weekend the year before, was owned by Gaylord, which was the family that owned the Grand Ol' Opry, WSM, and the Daily Oklahoman. It acquired KTVT from Gaylord around the same time NBC got KXAS from LIN.

Keep in mind, also, that DFW wasn't always a bigger market than Houston. I'm more familiar with the radio side, but I'm thinking Dallas and Ft. Worth were always the same TV market. Everything, however, wasn't equal for a long time. Prior to the early 70's, WBAP-TV transmitted from Broadcast Hill with 820 and 96.3. The radio markets were separate until the mid-70's. I believe they were combined around 1972-73, but AM stations could get their ratings separated by which county they were in through either '75 or '76. DFW's growth as a market has been relatively recent, and Detroit and Philadelphia were bigger markets in 1990.
 
IF, WRR were up for sale, what would prevent Jerruh Jones from money whipping the city council and buying it. He would then have a radio station to run his way, All Cowboys, All the Time. would that be possible, and would it work if he did?
 
IF, WRR were up for sale, what would prevent Jerruh Jones from money whipping the city council and buying it. He would then have a radio station to run his way, All Cowboys, All the Time. would that be possible, and would it work if he did?

If that's his intent, he could buy 103.3 from Disney. They're looking for a buyer.
 
until recently, the Morning News had WFAA.
Not recently, though...Belo spun off the newspapers into a separate company in 2008, and kept the broadcast and cable assets.

BTW the Dallas Times-Herald was purchased by Belo and immediately shut down in 1991.
 
Not recently, though...Belo spun off the newspapers into a separate company in 2008, and kept the broadcast and cable assets.

That seems recent to me, though maybe that’s just me not wanting to admit I'm old now! I’m still trying to figure out how that happened! Looks like that effort probably kept the Dallas Morning News from ending up in the hands of Gannett.

BTW the Dallas Times-Herald was purchased by Belo and immediately shut down in 1991.

Thanks for the info! I vaguely remember that. The FCC tended to frown on one entity owning multiple newspapers in the same general market, and newspapers were consolidating around that time. Usually, the more successful paper bought the less successful one and just shut it down, though there were exceptions. The San Antonio Light actually bought the Express-News and closed down the Light.

The Great Recession was so hard on newspapers that the consolidation has started up again and is probably nowhere near over. Gannett and Alden seem to be getting almost everything. With McClatchey being owned mostly by private equity now (due to its bankruptcy caused by purchasing Knight Ridder when the market was high and right before a crash), one has to think it's not long for the world. Lee apparently recently rebuffed an offer from Alden, but the vultures seem to be circling. After those two, there aren’t many newspaper operators left.
 
If that's his intent, he could buy 103.3 from Disney. They're looking for a buyer.
Because he would lose money since KESN is a rimshot signat and KRLD-FM is not. Its in his best intrest to have the Cowboys on the best radio signal possible.
 
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