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December NYC Ratings

This is the December period, which covered November 11 to December 8:

https://ratings.****************/content/arb001

This is the first few weeks of WXBK, which mainly shows the loss of the former WNSH listeners.

It also shows more losses for WNYL, even though they've altered their music mix.
 
I can see either 94.7 or 92.3 becoming WINS or CBS 880 sadly in 2022. I love Alt but their music mix isn't working. Do I wish NYC had variety in their music? Yeah. Sadly we don't get that.
 
What's going on with Hot 97? Their overall ratings have been steadily declining over the past 4 months. They're now tied with WQXR.
 
This is the first few weeks of WXBK, which mainly shows the loss of the former WNSH listeners.
The first three weeks of The Block were in the November book. This is their first full book.
 
What's going on with Hot 97? Their overall ratings have been steadily declining over the past 4 months. They're now tied with WQXR.
They have lost much of the Hispanic core which has migrated tyo the reggaeton content on other stations.
 
WWPR is also up sharply in 6+ and is doing well in key demos, including a tie for 3rd place in 18-49. That could also have something to do with it.
 
This is the December period, which covered November 11 to December 8:

https://ratings.****************/content/arb001

This is the first few weeks of WXBK, which mainly shows the loss of the former WNSH listeners.

It also shows more losses for WNYL, even though they've altered their music mix.
Give WNYL time. They just adjusted their music and fired their morning show. You’ll see the results in the coming January 2022 book at the earliest. It’s also basically a Christmas book meaning a lot of people are tuning over to other stations like WLTW.

Should point out, after dropping their piped in talk-based shows and going more music intensive, KVIL in Dallas seems to be improving a little. Not massively, but their numbers today are the best in recent history. The problems can be solved if they focus on what the market wants out of it instead of using a copy-paste formula

As for The Block, give that one time. It’s still new. Needs airstaff. Needs to be promoted. They’ll probably start working on that one next year.
 
I saw that sister station to Alt 92.3 in Kansas City added Elliot in the morning from DC I imagine Elliot may end up at 92.3. This would be a homecoming for Elliot considering he used to co-host with Elvis Duran on Z100 in the 90s.
 
I saw that sister station to Alt 92.3 in Kansas City added Elliot in the morning from DC I imagine Elliot may end up at 92.3. This would be a homecoming for Elliot considering he used to co-host with Elvis Duran on Z100 in the 90s.

Very surprising, in that Elliot is an iHeartRadio show:


Give WNYL time. They just adjusted their music and fired their morning show. You’ll see the results in the coming January 2022 book at the earliest.

You may be right. KVIL dropped its morning and afternoon shows in mid November, and their ratings increased in the latest book.
 
This is the December period, which covered November 11 to December 8:

https://ratings.****************/content/arb001

This is the first few weeks of WXBK, which mainly shows the loss of the former WNSH listeners.

It also shows more losses for WNYL, even though they've altered their music mix.
I doubt that either station will last.
 
From my limited experience, as well as what I've read about the signals on these boards, but the signal for WNYL seems like the best for The Block audience, while 94.7 and its Alt format seem better tilted toward the western side of the city, southern Westchester, and the Jersey suburbs, where more of the listeners for the new 94.7 are more likely to be. They'd gain better reception in Queens and the Bronx and be able to keep the existing area covered by 94.7 if the put the Block on 92.3, and keep or gain more suburban listeners.

I get that Audacy wouldn't want to do a frequency swap during a new station launch in market #1, but IMO Alt on 94.7 and The Block on 92.3 would make the most sense.

If Audacy put any all-news station on FM, it'd be WINS - at this point, I wonder if they'd sacrifice an additional FM signal for a what looks like struggling 88 WCBS, or just put WINS on FM and let whatever happens happen with 880. I don't think an FM signal would help whatever the issues are with 880.
 
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If Audacy put any all-news station on FM, it'd be WINS - at this point, I wonder if they'd sacrifice an additional FM signal for a what looks like struggling 88 WCBS, or just put WINS on FM and let whatever happens happen with 880. I don't think an FM signal would help whatever the issues are with 880.
The "issue" with WCBS (AM) is that it is the fifth highest billing station in the market.
 
Why? What makes a demographic suddenly migrate to a different format?
English dominant or bilingual Hispanics in the younger adult demographics have traditionally been strong users of Urban formats in NYC for decades. However, the evolution of Hispanic urban music, generically called "reggaetón", has become the preferred music for much of that group because it is more culturally linked to them.

Your question is similar to asking why the urban audience migrated to hip hop starting about 40 years ago... things change. In this case, a significant portion of the younger Hispanic population found its own music and migrated to it.
 
I am disappointed that ratings for WFUV and WBGO are so low at 0.4. Both stations provide quality programming with no commercials.
 
I saw that sister station to Alt 92.3 in Kansas City added Elliot in the morning from DC I imagine Elliot may end up at 92.3. This would be a homecoming for Elliot considering he used to co-host with Elvis Duran on Z100 in the 90s.
Possible. Elliot's been on the air in NYC more recently than that; iHeart put him on WOR for a little bit but that failed and was pulled after a short while.

Would it work better on Alt? Probably. But I'd also argue that Audacy carries all local morning shows in all of the top 5 markets. An in-house, music-intensive morning show may be the strategy for turning Alt around.

I'm still of the opinion WINS on FM is a strong possibility but it does not seem that management wants to give up that easy on Alt as it was with WNSH.
 
I am disappointed that ratings for WFUV and WBGO are so low at 0.4. Both stations provide quality programming with no commercials.
I don't know much about AAA or its appeal to the general population, but I can say that WFUV is difficult to pick up in some parts of the city, including Lower Manhattan.

Jazz, which WBGO plays, is a very niche format. In fact, jazz is so niche that in New Orleans, a city that is famous for jazz music, its jazz station (WWOZ) is in next-to-last place among terrestrial radio stations in the ratings.
 
I can see either 94.7 or 92.3 becoming WINS or CBS 880 sadly in 2022. I love Alt but their music mix isn't working. Do I wish NYC had variety in their music? Yeah. Sadly we don't get that.
It has all the formats that stations can make money in in a market that, in the money demos, is highly multicultural, has large numbers of first-generation immigrants, and has preferred rhythmic music for many years.
 
It's interesting that WQXR, with its classical music format, got 2.2 overall, and has been as high as 2.7 in the past few months.
 
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