December NYC Ratings

[MassMusicMan]

Also 94.7's music is not CHR nor was it CHR it is Classic Hip Hop and R&B.

It wasn't CHR? Huh?

7:00 AM	BONE THUGS-N-HARMONY	Tha Crossroads	1996	G
7:04 AM	FUGEES	Ready Or Not	1996	G
7:08 AM	NELLY	Dilemma	2002	G
7:13 AM	NOTORIOUS B.I.G.	Hypnotize	1997	G
7:17 AM	BELL BIV DEVOE	Poison	1990	G
7:21 AM	BEYONCE	Drunk In Love f/Jay Z	2013	G
7:27 AM	2PAC	Keep Ya Head Up	1993	G
7:31 AM	USHER	U Got It Bad	2001	G
7:35 AM	BLIGE, MARY J.	Family Affair	2001	G
7:39 AM	EVE	Let Me Blow Ya Mind	2001	G
7:42 AM	ELLIOTT, MISSY	Get Ur Freak On	2001	G
7:49 AM	TWISTA	Slow Jamz f/K. West/J. Foxx	2003	G
7:52 AM	ELLIOTT, MISSY	Work It	2002	G
7:56 AM	BRANDY W/MONICA	The Boy Is Mine	1998	G

That hour is full of songs that were smashes at mainstream CHR. And the ones that weren't are from before the format was comfortable with playing hip hop.

 

[davideduardo]

It wasn't CHR? Huh?

That hour is full of songs that were smashes at mainstream CHR. And the ones that weren't are from before the format was comfortable with playing hip hop.

No, that is "classic hip hop & r&b".

CHR stations play mostly currents... that is why it is called "Current Hits Radio". The list you posted is "ancient" by CHR standards and, because it is entirely urban and hip hop, it can not be defined as CHR. CHR takes pop, rhythmic, rock and alternative crossovers as well as some hip hop and crossover r&b... occasionally even a country song will cross over to CHR as well as a few Hispanic artists and styles.

Post-Post Note: My bad. The correct name is "Contemporary Hit Radio" and not "Current". Of course, inside stations we call the new stuff "currents" so probably that term would have been better... in retrospect. That term is now 40 years old. We used "Top 40" for about 30 years, from 1952 till the early 80's.

 

[dcowboy7]

Yep Z100 played "fancy like" by walker hayes a #1 country song cause it went top 20 on the billboard mainstream top 40 airplay chart.

 

[MassMusicMan]

No, that is "classic hip hop & r&b".

CHR stations play mostly currents... that is why it is called "Current Hits Radio". The list you posted is "ancient" by CHR standards and, because it is entirely urban and hip hop, it can not be defined as CHR. CHR takes pop, rhythmic, rock and alternative crossovers as well as some hip hop and crossover r&b... occasionally even a country song will cross over to CHR as well as a few Hispanic artists and styles.

Yes, I understand the format, I worked in it for several years.

The point is that these songs are viable for airplay because they were mainstream CHR hits at the time, and it was a time when the format was incredibly successful, ipso facto, they should be on a commercial station now.

The poster suggested that 94.7 would flip at some point to a simulcast of a news station, which I refuted.

 

[davideduardo]

The point is that these songs are viable for airplay because they were mainstream CHR hits at the time, and it was a time when the format was incredibly successful, ipso facto, they should be on a commercial station now.

The issue is that most of the songs they play are crossovers. Much of the coverage area of that signal has a high percentage of Hispanics as well as non-Hispanic whites, and the format seems to be trying to avoid color lines by appealing to everyone who liked those songs back in the day.

 

[davideduardo]

Yep Z100 played "fancy like" by walker hayes a #1 country song cause it went top 20 on the billboard mainstream top 40 airplay chart.

I doubt that the fact that the song charted in Billboard made any difference... few radio stations even look at Billboard.

The song obviously crossed over and got positive research in a breakout market and started spreading. Z-100 tends to be pretty late on new songs, as they watch what is working on radio in other markets and what is generating streaming as well.

 

[CTListener]

I doubt that the fact that the song charted in Billboard made any difference... few radio stations even look at Billboard.

The song obviously crossed over and got positive research in a breakout market and started spreading. Z-100 tends to be pretty late on new songs, as they watch what is working on radio in other markets and what is generating streaming as well.

"Fancy Like" crossed over in Connecticut at least a month ago. I remember running across it on WKCI Hamden (New Haven) and being very surprised, much as I was the first time I heard Gabby Barrett's "I Hope" on AC WMAS Springfield. Country crossovers were no factor on CHR stations when most of those urban songs now being played on the station under discussion were current.

 

[dcowboy7]

I doubt that the fact that the song charted in Billboard made any difference... few radio stations even look at Billboard.

The song obviously crossed over and got positive research in a breakout market and started spreading. Z-100 tends to be pretty late on new songs, as they watch what is working on radio in other markets and what is generating streaming as well.

Yea if you look at the top 20 they play every song.

 

[AceBiscuits]

I've been flipping to 94.7 whenever a commercial comes on (those 25,000 songs commercial free really do come in handy) and I have to say it sounds really tight. Music mix sounds a lot better than my first listen back when it had just flipped, my friends agreed. The work has definitely begun on building up the format.

 

[MVB13]

It wasn't CHR? Huh?

7:00 AM	BONE THUGS-N-HARMONY	Tha Crossroads	1996	G
7:04 AM	FUGEES	Ready Or Not	1996	G
7:08 AM	NELLY	Dilemma	2002	G
7:13 AM	NOTORIOUS B.I.G.	Hypnotize	1997	G
7:17 AM	BELL BIV DEVOE	Poison	1990	G
7:21 AM	BEYONCE	Drunk In Love f/Jay Z	2013	G
7:27 AM	2PAC	Keep Ya Head Up	1993	G
7:31 AM	USHER	U Got It Bad	2001	G
7:35 AM	BLIGE, MARY J.	Family Affair	2001	G
7:39 AM	EVE	Let Me Blow Ya Mind	2001	G
7:42 AM	ELLIOTT, MISSY	Get Ur Freak On	2001	G
7:49 AM	TWISTA	Slow Jamz f/K. West/J. Foxx	2003	G
7:52 AM	ELLIOTT, MISSY	Work It	2002	G
7:56 AM	BRANDY W/MONICA	The Boy Is Mine	1998	G

That hour is full of songs that were smashes at mainstream CHR. And the ones that weren't are from before the format was comfortable with playing hip hop.

They are Hip Hop Songs.

 

[MVB13]

I doubt that the fact that the song charted in Billboard made any difference... few radio stations even look at Billboard.

The song obviously crossed over and got positive research in a breakout market and started spreading. Z-100 tends to be pretty late on new songs, as they watch what is working on radio in other markets and what is generating streaming as well.

Sad that Z is no longer the station to break new music.

 

[dcowboy7]

Sad that Z is no longer the station to break new music.

Im glad it isnt.
I wanna hear the hits not what might be hits.
Thats the big problem with siriusxm the highway & ive seen other people mention it too on siriusxmfans.
Too many maybe future hits not enough current hits.

 

[MarkW]

Indeed, many successful CHR and CHR/Rhythmic stations were playing those songs heavily when they were fresh. A few even still play songs from that category and era as gold on occasion.

94.7 is focusing on the big Rhythmic crossover hits of the 90s and early 00s.

 

[CTListener]

Sad that Z is no longer the station to break new music.

Has that ever been the role of New York's major stations? I seem to recall WABC being well known for waiting forever to get on songs, especially by new artists, only doing so until they were established hits elsewhere nationwide. Was WMCA, their main competition in those AM days, breaking new music or also being ultraconservative? How about later New York Top 40/CHR stations?

 

[dcowboy7]

What counts as new anyways ?
The girl on LA kiss-fm said new music from taylor swift "message in a bottle".
Its #19 & in the top 40 for 7 wks already.

 

[RoddyFreeman]

No, that is "classic hip hop & r&b".

CHR stations play mostly currents... that is why it is called "Current Hits Radio". The list you posted is "ancient" by CHR standards and, because it is entirely urban and hip hop, it can not be defined as CHR. CHR takes pop, rhythmic, rock and alternative crossovers as well as some hip hop and crossover r&b... occasionally even a country song will cross over to CHR as well as a few Hispanic artists and styles.

CHR stands for Contemporary Hit Radio.

 

[CTListener]

What counts as new anyways ?
The girl on LA kiss-fm said new music from taylor swift "message in a bottle".
Its #19 & in the top 40 for 7 wks already.

Country songs can take 30 to 40 weeks to reach their chart peak. Playlists at CHR, AC and Country have been sludge-like for years.

 

[davideduardo]

Yea if you look at the top 20 they play every song.

Of course. A hit is a hit is a hit. But radio stations have other sources that they like better than Billboard, starting with ones like BDS that give them very granular data on songs by station and format and with streaming data for comparison.

 

[davideduardo]

CHR stands for Contemporary Hit Radio.

Sorry. My error... or "brain f--t". I have mentioned numerous times the early 80's issue of R&R where the magazine renamed "Top 40" to take ownership on the chart away from traditional magazines like Billboard, Cash Box and Record World and from the other "trades" like Gavin and FMQB.

The interesting thing is that the R&R chart contents did not change a bit when it changed name. While a bunch of new contributing stations were added, they just reinforced further the strength of the real hits.

The important thing to note about the charts is that the deeper you get, the more variation you get by station and region of the country. Since radio does not have a different rotation for #1 and #3 or for #8 and #16 in most cases, the differences in the very top songs are not significant. But when you get below #25 to #30, they wobble all over the place because at that level airplay is more erratic and if sales/streams/downloads are much, much smaller when compared to Top 10 or even Top 20 songs.

 

[dcowboy7]

Country songs can take 30 to 40 weeks to reach their chart peak. Playlists at CHR, AC and Country have been sludge-like for years.

But its not a country song....its on the pop chart.
Still seems funny to call it new when its on the chart almost 2 mnths.
I guess if radio stations still call themselves "the all new xxxx" after a yr it mixes.
Yea country can take over a yr even.
"Wiskey & rain" by michael ray is currently #2 & in its 63 wk.