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Meat Loaf dead at 74

davideduardo

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From the New York Times

Meat Loaf, "Bat out of Hell" Singer and Actor dies at 74
In his six-decade career, the singer, born Marvin Lee Aday, sold millions of albums and acted in films.
 
Always felt sorry for people who hated Meat Loaf. They didn't understand. He was overwrought, over-the-top, the perfect vessel for the overwrought, over-the-top Wagnerian rock of Jim Steinman. The haters saw that as pretentious, as though Meat Loaf was out to deliver eternal truths in his music and was insulting the songs by rendering them in his thunderous style. Nonsense. He -- with Steinman's help -- had created a larger-than-life character to play, like pro wrestling stars present and past, and had done so brilliantly.

Side note: The Times is behind a pay wall , so I can't read the article. Do they refer to him on second reference as Mr. Aday or Mr. Loaf? I've heard many times that The Times, which retains courtesy titles long after most papers have dropped them, had printed stories with "Mr. Loaf" in them. Never saw it first hand, and am wondering how the paper is handling his name now.
 
This is a man who made a career of having seizures and collapsing on stage. But TMZ says he had covid:

news.yahoo.com

TMZ reports unconfirmed claim that Meat Loaf had severe COVID when he died

It is not clear if Meat Loaf was vaccinated before he died on Thursday aged 74. No cause was given when his death was announced.
news.yahoo.com news.yahoo.com

He sort of had a career comeback after appearing on Celebrity Apprentice a few years back.

www.huffpost.com

Watch Meat Loaf's Most Bonkers Unscripted Moments

The "Bat out of Hell" singer and actor was a performer offstage as well.
www.huffpost.com www.huffpost.com
 
I wonder if the poor soul ever found love in all of that wanting and needing.
 
We will all miss him, and that larger than life personality made me a fan. Also, how reliable is TMZ and Yahoo again? Maybe he's okay. šŸ¤ž
 
ZantennaG1 said:
Also, how reliable is TMZ and Yahoo again? Maybe he's okay. šŸ¤ž
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There are two groups: The anti-vaxxers are claiming that Meat died after getting the booster:

www.dailydot.com

Conspiracy theorists think Meat Loaf died from COVID boosterā€”don't realize he was against vaccine mandates

There's a huge problem with their logic.
www.dailydot.com www.dailydot.com

And there are those who say he was an active anti-vaxxer himself who hated mandates:

www.thedailybeast.com

ā€˜If I Die I Dieā€™: Meat Loaf Spurned COVID Rules Before Death

The singer said in a recent interview that he was getting tired of pandemic restrictions, complaining about ā€œpower-madā€ flight attendants who make people wear masks.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com

We report, you decide.
 
I saw this on the big screen at a Midnight Movie thing where they showed various artists.


Once, on a Sunday morning in the mid-80's, I saw him and his family having brunch at a Mexican restaurant in Dallas.

apnews.com

Meat Loaf, 'Bat Out of Hell' rock superstar, dies at 74

Meat Loaf, the rock superstar loved by millions for his ā€œBat Out of Hellā€ album and for such theatrical, dark-hearted anthems as ā€œParadise By the Dashboard Lightā€ and ā€œTwo Out of Three Ainā€™t Bad,ā€ has died at age 74.
apnews.com apnews.com

www.rollingstone.com

Meat Loaf, Master of Operatic Rock, Dead at 74

Actor and singer Meat Loaf dies at 74, as confirmed by his family.
www.rollingstone.com www.rollingstone.com
 
TheBigA said:
There are two groups: The anti-vaxxers are claiming that Meat died after getting the booster:

www.dailydot.com

Conspiracy theorists think Meat Loaf died from COVID boosterā€”don't realize he was against vaccine mandates

There's a huge problem with their logic.
www.dailydot.com www.dailydot.com

And there are those who say he was an active anti-vaxxer himself who hated mandates:

www.thedailybeast.com

ā€˜If I Die I Dieā€™: Meat Loaf Spurned COVID Rules Before Death

The singer said in a recent interview that he was getting tired of pandemic restrictions, complaining about ā€œpower-madā€ flight attendants who make people wear masks.
www.thedailybeast.com www.thedailybeast.com

We report, you decide.
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As always, it's dissolving into debating whether Meatloaf was vaccinated or not, and no one thinks to consult his doctor or anything. By the way, I do thank you for the two links so I could see the debate as a whole, I appreciate that.
 
CTListener said:
Always felt sorry for people who hated Meat Loaf. They didn't understand. He was overwrought, over-the-top, the perfect vessel for the overwrought, over-the-top Wagnerian rock of Jim Steinman. The haters saw that as pretentious, as though Meat Loaf was out to deliver eternal truths in his music and was insulting the songs by rendering them in his thunderous style. Nonsense. He -- with Steinman's help -- had created a larger-than-life character to play, like pro wrestling stars present and past, and had done so brilliantly.
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Obviously, many people liked his music. I thought it was "overwrought and pompous". You're saying he was more Showman, than serious musician. KISS is in that category. I don't like either one, but many enjoy "The Spectacle"...
 
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listen to interviews with Meatloaf, he will tell you the person that shows up for the show is different than the performer that he is on the stage. His stage act is theatrics.

He was a serious actor.

As for Jim, he has said publicly he was going for the Phil Spector wall of sound effect with all the layering, he was going for the car/motorcycle crash song of the 60's, which is what Bat Out Of Hell Was, Paradise was the teenage angst/sex song of the 60's made for the 70's.. and Jim had a sense of humor as evidenced by some of his song lines.

The biggest hit of the album, 2 out of 3 Ain't Bad , was an add on not originally part of the concept.

Again if you have not seen the Classic Albums episode on Bat Out Of Hell it is an eye opener, including how Jim did part of one song to sound like The Eagles who were super hot at the time.
 
DavidEduardo said:
From the New York Times

Meat Loaf, "Bat out of Hell" Singer and Actor dies at 74
In his six-decade career, the singer, born Marvin Lee Aday, sold millions of albums and acted in films.
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I'm an Oldies guy and lived through the "Meat Loaf" era but I've never considered him on the forefront, or even near the forefront, of the best of the Rockers. Yes he sold a half dozen songs of note but that can be a very average career and not the epitome of one. AFAIK his name has not been mentioned outside the industry in decades yet all three major networks did substantial stories about his death. CBS did minutes. Unbelievable.

He also was not an actor although he did participate in films.....two, one a bit part in a cult movie most people would not recognize today.

He had a voice but like so many other singers it was mostly just volume. If I am going to criticize Whitney Houston for howling it should also apply to Meat. I am not criticizing the guy personally because I did not know him. Matter of fact, I am not criticizing him at all. I am just saying his music was a very small part of the history of RnR and the platitudes heaped upon him were not deserved. It says far more about media editors/publicists than about the singer.

I have three of his singles in my library so I did think he deserved to be recognized but no where near the RnR god the media appears to bestow. This looks like some sort of inside job. Or perhaps it's just "desperate Friday" and those on deadline needed something to write about.
 
He was not an actor? He was doing theater when he met Jim .... that is where it started Jim was scoring for the stage and Meat was one of the actors, Jim heard his voice and put it together with his vision and here we are.

"He left for Los Angeles after college and was soon fronting the band Meat Loaf Soul. For years, he alternated between music and the stage, recording briefly for Motown, opening for such acts as the Who and the Grateful Dead and appearing in the Broadway production of ā€œHair.ā€"

"Steinman had known Meat Loaf since the singer appeared in his 1973 musical ā€œMore Than You Deserveā€"
 
I had the pleasure to see his concert at the terrific Gorge amphitheater in central WA in the 90ā€™s. I came in not expecting much, left with one of the best live concerts I have ever seen. His energy and precision will last in my mind forever.
 
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