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WJMN dumping CBS?

mvcg66b3r

mvcg66b3r

Starting on January 21, 2022, WJMN Local 3 will no longer be affiliated with CBS Network. This means CBS programs and sports are also moving.

WJMN will remain on channel 3 and will continue to provide the news, weather, sports and entertainment that we have for over 50 years across the Upper Peninsula.

In order to continue serving U.P. communities, we are expanding our Local 3 News programming. Starting on Friday, January 21, 2022 and continuing each week night, our 6 p.m. newscast expands from half an hour to a full hour. Our Local 3 late news is not only expanding to an hour, but will come to you an hour earlier at 10 p.m.
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Why???? And where is CBS going in the Western U.P.?
 
WZMQ, the Lilly Broadcasting-owned MeTV affiliate, will begin carrying CBS programs on their second subchannel tonight at 11:35p, as per Zap2it. 6p and 11p newscasts will debut on the station tomorrow night.
 
PhillyNewsLover said:
WZMQ, the Lilly Broadcasting-owned MeTV affiliate, will begin carrying CBS programs on their second subchannel tonight at 11:35p, as per Zap2it. 6p and 11p newscasts will debut on the station tomorrow night.
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Where will MeTV go?
 
mvcg66b3r said:
Where will MeTV go?
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Me-TV is on WZMQ 19.1 and according to what I'm seeing, that's not going anywhere. WZMQ 19.2 will become CBS and take over from WJMN which will take over WZMQ's MNT affiliation and add that with programs from Antenna and Rewind.

So by tomorrow, it looks like...

WJMN 03.1 - MNT/Antenna/Rewind
WZMQ 19.1 - Me-TV (that's staying, apparently)
WZMQ 19.2 - CBS
 
Even for a market as small as Marquette (DMA #183), having CBS as a subchannel to a station with a diginet like Me-TV as its primary seems rather peculiar.
 
It gives Lilly (the owner of WZMQ) 2 stations on satellite
MeTv on 19-1 as its a -1
CBS 19-2 due to its network status

If they moved MeTv to say 19-2 and added CBS as 19-1 only the CBS would be carried

side note-CBS is carrying MeTv programming when there is no news or CBS programming. Its a direct simulcast from 19-1 so there are times a program on 19-2 will be cut due to CBS programming (example is Big Valley on at noon. At 12:30 CBS switches to CBS programming.)
 
what difference does it make if it is a .1 or .2?

Unless you are going to 720 in order to cram a .5 or something in the allotted space, OTA it makes no difference, on cable it makes even less of a difference.... all they have to do is get the word out and brand it correctly and it is an easy process IMHO.
 
MRBIboredop said:
what difference does it make if it is a .1 or .2?
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For satellite coverage its HUGE. That part of the country satellite may be the only option. Again satellite in most cases only carries the -1 of a station. If a subchannel (-2 etc) is a network station then satellite will want to carry it. So if Lilly put CBS on -1 and moved MeTv to -2 Dish and Directv would only carry the -1. This way Lilly gets 2 stations on satellite (19-1 MeTv and 19-2 CBS)

MRBIboredop said:
Unless you are going to 720 in order to cram a .5 or something in the allotted space, OTA it makes no difference, on cable it makes even less of a difference.... all they have to do is get the word out and brand it correctly and it is an easy process IMHO.
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WZMQ actually has 8 stations
19-1 MeTv
19-2 CBS
19-3 Heroes & Icons
19-4 StartTv
19-5 Dabl
19-6 CourtTv
19-7 Ion
19-8 True Real

But for OTA and cable you are correct. Cable has different rules on what subs they will carry so regardless if it was a -1 or -2 CBS would be carrried (Spectrum carried StartTv when it was on 19-2 on channel 193. They added a low number spot for CBS (5 I think) and HD its on 788)
 
Ccook55 said:
On Dish it's on 5 and on DirecTV it's on 20.
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Directv makes sense. They **usually**put the subchannel next to the main station so 19 & 20.
Dish putting it at 5 is an odd spot. I guess maybe they are putting it next to the former affiliate.
 
Mr Tony said:
Directv makes sense. They **usually**put the subchannel next to the main station so 19 & 20.
Dish putting it at 5 is an odd spot. I guess maybe they are putting it next to the former affiliate.
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It's next to the NBC affiliate on 6.
 
point being with Dish is they have some weird numbering positions. Here is how it usually worked
-subchannel is added they use the PSIP number
-if that is taken then they use the stations DTV conversion RF station (thats why FOX WLUC-DT2 is on 35)
-if that is taken then they use the stations old RF # (pre-DTV)..thats why in Mankato KEYC-DT2 FOX is on 38...that was KEYC's old RF station. They moved back to 12 at the conversion.
-Dish and the owner decide on a number

Its even goofier when Dish adds a new network station in a short market that replaces a distant station. They use the existing number that they had. As example Mankato, MN did not have a local NBC until 12/1/19 when KMNF launched. Sat subs got KARE 11 from Minneapolis for NBC. When KMNF launched Dish put it on 11 (Directv used 7 which is their PSIP). Jonesboro, Arkansas is a great example of confusion. They use to be just ABC (KAIT 8) and got Memphis imported. When CBS, FOX and NBC were launched they were placed on the same numbers as Memphis (CBS 3, NBC 5, FOX13).

The CW in Marquette is on 5. Its odd Dish doesnt carry it as it is a -1 (WBKP 5-1) but knowing Dish they wont carry it because its also on the ABC as a sub (WBUP 10-2).
 
Mr Tony said:
The CW in Marquette is on 5. Its odd Dish doesnt carry it as it is a -1 (WBKP 5-1) but knowing Dish they wont carry it because its also on the ABC as a sub (WBUP 10-2).
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The CW in Calumet is on WBKP/5.1, with ABC on 5.2. It's co-owned with WBUP, but the network subchannels are reversed. Channel 10 cannot be seen in the Keweenaw Peninsula, and Channel 5 cannot reach Marquette.
 
Fully aware of it. Point being that technically WBKP qualifies for must carry as its a -1. Why Dish doesn't carry it I guess only Dish and Stephan Marks (the owner of WBKP/WBUP) know ;)
 
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