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Nielsen Releases Revised Market Rankings---Seattle/Tacoma Up One Spot to #11

The description of the Seattle/Tacoma forum still lists the market as Market 13.

"Discuss radio in Seattle-Tacoma, Washington, Nielsen rated radio market 13."
 
We're #11! We're #11! Rah-Rah-Rah!

But seriously, this area is growing like crazy. And the real estate market really shows it.
 
Bongwater said:
And the real estate market really shows it.
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$875,000+ for a 3-bedroom home in north Bothell, in the neighborhood I grew up in. Which was $200,000 20 years ago. Mind you, 1980s-built homes, not a new housing development, which pops up about as often as another rainstorm in Seattle.
That sums up one of several reasons why I will never return to western Washington. As a teacher, I'll be stuck in apartments at $1800-2000+ a month, and/or living in Gold Bar or Mt. Vernon just to drive into Edmonds / Everett / Northshore / Lake Washington schools. Even with starting salaries at $60K+ in some districts. That same house in West Yakima is $350,000 or less. Why bother, as I could save up for a few years and then buy that house on monthly payments! Lol!!! I'd have to win the Mega Millions or Lotto to buy back my old Bothell home.
Actually, Richland is even cheaper, and the population went up 25% from 2010 to 2020, shows you that many Seattleites and Californians are leaving in droves - and Hispanic immigrants also are continuing to move in/move up. Our own Seatownmedia lives out in Tri-Cities. The growth is enormous. New elementary schools are being built yearly! Too bad radio out there isn't too great (outside of 101.9 Hank FM).
 
crainbebo said:
$875,000+ for a 3-bedroom home in north Bothell, in the neighborhood I grew up in. Which was $200,000 20 years ago. Mind you, 1980s-built homes, not a new housing development, which pops up about as often as another rainstorm in Seattle.
That sums up one of several reasons why I will never return to western Washington. As a teacher, I'll be stuck in apartments at $1800-2000+ a month, and/or living in Gold Bar or Mt. Vernon just to drive into Edmonds / Everett / Northshore / Lake Washington schools. Even with starting salaries at $60K+ in some districts. That same house in West Yakima is $350,000 or less. Why bother, as I could save up for a few years and then buy that house on monthly payments! Lol!!! I'd have to win the Mega Millions or Lotto to buy back my old Bothell home.
Actually, Richland is even cheaper, and the population went up 25% from 2010 to 2020, shows you that many Seattleites and Californians are leaving in droves - and Hispanic immigrants also are continuing to move in/move up. Our own Seatownmedia lives out in Tri-Cities. The growth is enormous. New elementary schools are being built yearly! Too bad radio out there isn't too great (outside of 101.9 Hank FM).
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The Columbia Basin is both cheap to live in and excellent for radio - Moses Lake to Pasco being the best. Kennewick and Richland are meh. Better to live in Pasco or north of Pasco.
 
Also one less mountain range between your AM radio and the Eastern US. Not that it would or should be a game changer when considering a place to live in the state.
 
DX has mostly taken a backseat to real life. It's more affordable in eastern WA and north ID. Less traffic in many places, albeit last Friday's jaunt in Wenatchee did not prove that. Yikes, the traffic has gotten crazy in that town! A constant stream of cars on South Wenatchee Ave and along Hwy 28 in East Wenatchee on a Friday afternoon. Almost like Bothell-Everett Hwy!
In terms of school districts, Kennewick and Richland are great for what they are, and the growth is tremendous, leading to more opportunities for me as more elementary schools open. Pasco is OK. If I am begging for a DX-friendly location, I can always commute from Benton City or Mesa.
 
crainbebo said:
DX has mostly taken a backseat to real life. It's more affordable in eastern WA and north ID. Less traffic in many places, albeit last Friday's jaunt in Wenatchee did not prove that. Yikes, the traffic has gotten crazy in that town! A constant stream of cars on South Wenatchee Ave and along Hwy 28 in East Wenatchee on a Friday afternoon. Almost like Bothell-Everett Hwy!
In terms of school districts, Kennewick and Richland are great for what they are, and the growth is tremendous, leading to more opportunities for me as more elementary schools open. Pasco is OK. If I am begging for a DX-friendly location, I can always commute from Benton City or Mesa.
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Or south of Kennewick. Anywhere outside the immediate Pasco-Kennewick-Richland area is good for DX. E-skips will wipe out local translators if you get far enough away from Badger Mtn. or Joe Butte.
 
crainbebo said:
$875,000+ for a 3-bedroom home in north Bothell, in the neighborhood I grew up in. Which was $200,000 20 years ago. Mind you, 1980s-built homes, not a new housing development, which pops up about as often as another rainstorm in Seattle.
That sums up one of several reasons why I will never return to western Washington. As a teacher, I'll be stuck in apartments at $1800-2000+ a month, and/or living in Gold Bar or Mt. Vernon just to drive into Edmonds / Everett / Northshore / Lake Washington schools. Even with starting salaries at $60K+ in some districts. That same house in West Yakima is $350,000 or less. Why bother, as I could save up for a few years and then buy that house on monthly payments! Lol!!! I'd have to win the Mega Millions or Lotto to buy back my old Bothell home.
Actually, Richland is even cheaper, and the population went up 25% from 2010 to 2020, shows you that many Seattleites and Californians are leaving in droves - and Hispanic immigrants also are continuing to move in/move up. Our own Seatownmedia lives out in Tri-Cities. The growth is enormous. New elementary schools are being built yearly! Too bad radio out there isn't too great (outside of 101.9 Hank FM).
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Yes, huge growth just between the time I moved back here in 2015 to today. I believe it is the fastest growing metro in Washington State. I tend to agree radio is not great here, but atleast there is KONA 610 which makes a good attempt at being local. It kinda ends there however.
 
These are the top 10 fastest growing cities by number of residents added, according to the census data:
  1. Seattle: Population 737,015 (+128,355)
  2. Kent: Population 136,588 (+44,177)
  3. Kirkland : Population 92,175 (+43,388)
  4. Bellevue: Population 151,854 (+29,491)
  5. Vancouver: Population 190,915 (+29,124)
  6. Sammamish: Population 67,455 (+21,675)
  7. Tacoma: Population 219,346 (+20,949)
  8. Spokane: Population 228,989 (+20,073)
  9. Redmond: Population 73,256 (+19,112)
  10. Burien: Population 52,066 (+18,753)
The top 10 by percentage growth are:
  1. Qui-nai-elt Village: Population 320 (+492.59 Percent)
  2. Kendall: Population 769 (+302.62 Percent)
  3. Laurier: Population 4 (+300 Percent)
  4. Rochester: Population 6,064 (+153.94 Percent)
  5. Hat Island: Population 91 (+121.95 Percent)
  6. North Fort Lewis: Population 5,978 (+121.49 Percent)
  7. Ridgefield: Population 10,319 (+116.65 Percent)
  8. Summitview: Population 2,066 (+113.65 Percent)
  9. Lake McMurray: Population 382 (+98.96 Percent)
  10. Lake Stickney: Population 15,413 (+98.19 Percent)
Washington grew by 980,741 people (14.6 percent) between the 2010 and 2020 census, making it the seventh-fastest growing state in the country. The only states who grew more were Colorado, Nevada, North Dakota, Texas, Idaho and Utah, which took the top slot with 18.4 percent growth. The U.S. on the whole saw a 7.4 percent population growth.
 
frankberry said:
I have updated the "Top 20 Radio Markets" to show the new Seattle-Tacoma market ranking.
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I still see #13 in the description of the Seattle/Tacoma forum. Is there a delay with description updates?

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Yes, Spokane has also grown significantly. They finally got a Spanish station (1330 / 95.7 translator) and it has a niche audience of Hispanic listeners that are loyal to the station.
Idaho has grown like crazy, many Californians are leaving and have been doing that for years. Coeur D'Alene is full of ex-Californians, same with Sandpoint. That is one reason why I won't move to Boise (that and it's too far from family in central WA), but I am still considering a North Idaho move in the near future. What a pretty area to live in. CDA/Post Falls has gone up in value, but homes in Moscow and Troy are relatively affordable.
 
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