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WPHH proposed move into Montgomery

An informal objection has been filed against WPHH, Hope Hull to move their transmitter farther north into Montgomery, but remain licensed to Hope Hull. From what I get out of reading the objection, the move would preclude the new facilities being able to serve the area of Hope Hull. Not sure why this is an issue or whether the FCC will even consider the objection, given that Hope Hull is only 7.5 miles "as the crow flies" from Montgomery, and according to the new contour at FCCdata.org, it appears the proposed signal would still cover the area of Hope Hull. And really, though...Hope Hull was just selected at random, anyway, in order to permit the station to do the move-in from SE Alabama i.e. they needed to choose an "unserved area" as the new city of license in order to facilitate such. These stations that do these kinds of move-ins have no desire to serve their new city of license, anyway; it's all just "on paper".


Proposed new coverage area:
 
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An informal objection has been filed against WPHH, Hope Hull to move their transmitter farther north into Montgomery, but remain licensed to Hope Hull. From what I get out of reading the objection, the move would preclude the new facilities being able to serve the area of Hope Hull. Not sure why this is an issue or whether the FCC will even consider the objection, given that Hope Hull is only 7.5 miles "as the crow flies" from Montgomery, and according to the new contour at FCCdata.org, it appears the proposed signal would still cover the area of Hope Hull. And really, though...Hope Hull was just selected at random, anyway, in order to permit the station to do the move-in from SE Alabama i.e. they needed to choose an "unserved area" as the new city of license in order to facilitate such. These stations that do these kinds of move-ins have no desire to serve their new city of license, anyway; it's all just "on paper".


Proposed new coverage area:
The only consideration should be the loss area compared to the gain area and I would think that the latter would far outnumber the former!
 
An informal objection has been filed against WPHH, Hope Hull to move their transmitter farther north into Montgomery, but remain licensed to Hope Hull. From what I get out of reading the objection, the move would preclude the new facilities being able to serve the area of Hope Hull. Not sure why this is an issue or whether the FCC will even consider the objection, given that Hope Hull is only 7.5 miles "as the crow flies" from Montgomery, and according to the new contour at FCCdata.org, it appears the proposed signal would still cover the area of Hope Hull. And really, though...Hope Hull was just selected at random, anyway, in order to permit the station to do the move-in from SE Alabama i.e. they needed to choose an "unserved area" as the new city of license in order to facilitate such. These stations that do these kinds of move-ins have no desire to serve their new city of license, anyway; it's all just "on paper".


Proposed new coverage area:

To simplify it, the complainant claims that the new signal wouldnt put the require 70-dbu coverage over the city of license.

its a specific level of signal over the city of license thats required. .and WKLF, LLC claim sit isn't happening
 
I think this is an interesting objection because it hinges on whether WKLF can convince the FCC to change what they consider Hope Hull's boundaries to be.

The original license for WPHH didn't use the entire zip code as Hope Hull's boundaries, and the current facility doesn't reach all of that with the 70 dBu contour. So, if it didn't matter then, I don't see why it would suddenly matter for this move.

And why does WKLF care that WPHH wants to move into Montgomery, anyway?
 
And why does WKLF care that WPHH wants to move into Montgomery, anyway?

My thoughts exactly when I read the objection. I guess "minding your own business" isn't necessarily reciprocal...

Sounds like there is more to the complaint than what is seen at face value (what is given in the objection). I have my own theories regarding why that is, but will refrain to state it, as some on here get all offended when people discuss publicly-accessible information that is documented at the FCC i.e. is not merely hearsay. After all, this IS a radio forum and we are entitled to our own opinions, whether they be right or wrong.
 
Why dont we ask, @Chris ? I know WKLF's Chris Johnson is here on the message board, maybe if he wants to answer or can, he'll tell us.
 
I'm amused that the objection says the FCC should not use "some arbitrary definition" of the boundaries of Hope Hull, and that instead they should use the definition created by the US Postal Service... for the purpose of delivering mail.

Anyone who has ever lived in rural America knows the post office tends to extend the nearest significant town for the purpose of identification. Further north in Alabama, zip code 35057 (Cullman, AL) includes only the slivers of the corporate limits of Cullman which are west of I-65. That zip code covers ~125 square miles of rural Alabama, and roughly 10% of Cullman's corporate limits.
 
I'm amused that the objection says the FCC should not use "some arbitrary definition" of the boundaries of Hope Hull, and that instead they should use the definition created by the US Postal Service... for the purpose of delivering mail.

Anyone who has ever lived in rural America knows the post office tends to extend the nearest significant town for the purpose of identification. Further north in Alabama, zip code 35057 (Cullman, AL) includes only the slivers of the corporate limits of Cullman which are west of I-65. That zip code covers ~125 square miles of rural Alabama, and roughly 10% of Cullman's corporate limits.
Similar situation here in Calera in south Shelby county. The city limits to the south end about a mile from here where it is more rural, but the 35040 Calera zip code carries much farther south. Our church is about 3 1/2 miles from here and not within the Calera city limits, yet it has a 35040 zip code for their mailing address. Same situation applies with other areas going north, west and east of Calera. Personally, I think the entire petition to deny the move is petty, particularly in light of the fact that the move doesn't affect WKLF in any way if it is approved. Again, I believe there is more to the petition than what "meets the eye". If you think about all the "chess players" on the board...
 
I also noticed a frequency change to 106.5
Yes, that could be a piece of the puzzle. Think about it...
 
I don't have time to respond to this junk. I just spent over 80 grand with the FCC for 106.3 which is involved in this. So, it is my business and it is none of anyone on this site. I you don't know all the details don't disrespect me.
 
I also noticed a frequency change to 106.5

I don't have time to respond to this junk. I just spent over 80 grand with the FCC for 106.3 which is involved in this. So, it is my business and it is none of anyone on this site. I you don't know all the details don't disrespect me.
No offense, but this is a radio board and everything being discussed is not hearsay; it is publicly-accessible and verifiable information at the FCC. You're more than welcome to give your viewpoint if you like just as anyone else here. btw, the fact a christian broadcaster is involved in filing an objection to another christian broadcaster from performing ministry...which doesn't affect your stations and is NONE of YOUR business...is appalling, IMO.
 
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If you had a real investment in a real radio station you might understand. You should look at all the data and you might have a clue. My filling, my station, my business.
My last response. I don't have time for you to insult me, my dealings and my Christianity. I will pray for you and your judgment attitude.
 
If you had a real investment in a real radio station you might understand. You should look at all the data and you might have a clue. My filling, my station, my business.
My last response. I don't have time for you to insult me, my dealings and my Christianity. I will pray for you and your judgment attitude.
It was your choice to post in this group and you had the option to clarify what has been mentioned, yet did not do so. You cannot admonish people for discussing info on this page that is public record. No one has disrespected you in any manner. If you feel you have been, posting additional angry comments where you're telling people they cannot freely discuss opinions within a radio forum won't probably help matters.

I will disagree about the "real radio station" comment. If you need to understand the definition of radio, I would suggest you grab you a dictionary or look up such online. You will find radio broadcasting doesn't strictly apply to AM and FM broadcasts. I imagine most AM/FM broadcasters DO know what the definition of radio actually entails, but only chooses what benefits them as far as what is legitimate radio and what is not. Your personal preferences regarding what you feel is legitimate radio or isn't is not my concern, as the facts demonstrate otherwise.

I am a christian as well and I am not perfect, either. Feel free to pray for me if you wish. You may do as as well regarding your choices bc ultimately, I am not the one who will be answering to our Lord about the matter. Christian broadcasters are supposed to WORK TOGETHER to lead people to Christ, not prohibit their God-given call to ministry. Is it about Christ or is it not?
 

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I'm not going to argue with you over semantics. Again, most people involved in AM/FM radio do understand that radio isn't comprised entirely of just AM and FM broadcasts, but would rather view the world from their own personal preferences than facts. Facts are ultimately how the world is defined, not by one's opinion or what is familiar to them. Even a cell phone call that is sent and/or received via a cell tower is a form of radio communication, as it involves radio waves to make that possible.

Either way, those of us in this forum are commenting on information that is DOCUMENTED at the FCC and is public record. We all have information that is available via public record that anyone can access at any time, and there is nothing we can do about the matter. I'm sure you were aware that FCC information is available to the public when your company filed the objection, so you probably should not be terribly surprised regarding that others are aware of it. Coming into a forum with a mindset of telling others that they have no right to discuss what is publicly accessible is unreasonable.

btw, I do realize you use your station as ministry but I do the same as well for mine. The Lord has been preparing me to do it for a long time. I do appreciate the fact that AM/FM owners spend time and $ to operate your stations. I do as well, albeit not to the degree as yours, obviously. However, I do spend $ for music licensing among other costs and, like you, I have poured my heart and effort into it also (over ten years now), regardless of whether anyone qualifies what I do as "radio" or not. I would imagine many of the mega broadcasters could take a similar viewpoint of you and WPJN with its weaker 500 watt signal, compared to say, WDJC which broadcasts with around 100 kw and say your station is inconsequential in the grand scheme of things as far as ministry (or otherwise) is concerned. Either way, it's STILL ministry given to me by the Lord, just as what you have. Maybe it's not *exactly* the same as what you do, but each of us as Christians has a ministry, however "big" or "small" it may seem. I don't feel it's your place or anyone else's to minimize what I do, especially what I do for the Lord (neither is it my place to do so in regards to what others do, either). I do recall some scripture concerning that christians shouldn't make ourselves out to be more than what we are (comparing ourselves/talents/our personal ministries) with other believers.

You and I will have to agree to disagree on the matter. Your entitled to your opinion and I and others in the forum are as well. It's obvious we don't see eye to eye on it, so let's leave it at that...
 
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