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Looks like I am not the only one questioning Nielsen methodology....

NIELSEN'S COMMITMENT TO IMPROVING MEASUREMENT​
April 26, 2022​
Nielsen continues to work for everyone in this year’s upfront.
Late last year, I laid out our commitment to delivering measurement that is reliable, accurate, unbiased, and inclusive.
We articulated our principles to create a better measurement future, and have heard from many of you that these are the right principles and that we must be accountable for meeting them.
I wanted to give you an update on where Nielsen is in our efforts to improve measurement, and assure you that we will continue to provide the most accurate and verifiable currency in the market to guarantee this year’s video upfront commitments.
We have made significant progress against each of these principles.
  • Ensure inclusion and representation of all audiences.
    One of the essential reasons to maintain investment in a robust panel is to ensure big data is validated and fully inclusive and representative of the country's changing demographics. By representing real humans and validating our massive big data sets with real-world viewing behavior of over 100,000 people, we’re able to represent all audiences, including harder-to-measure diverse communities that are often under-represented with big data alone. To ensure we’re continually delivering equitable measurement and promoting inclusion, we’ve created – and take direct guidance from – three External Advisory Committees, comprising business and community experts and leaders who represent the African-American, Hispanic/Latino, and Asian Pacific-American communities. In addition, we work closely with the Alliance for Inclusive and Multicultural Marketing (AIMM) to ensure we’re doing everything possible to promote a more equitable and inclusive industry.
  • Enable true comparability across all platforms and deduplicate audiences.
    As consumer behavior and media habits continue to rapidly change, the need for a single, cross-platform measurement currency that deduplicates audiences becomes more clear every day. Nielsen ONE reconciles our measurements to finally provide the industry with deduplicated reach and frequency metrics across linear programming, streaming, connected TV, and digital channels. In January of this year, we launched the Alpha of Nielsen ONE. We will continue to add new cross-media capabilities in the coming months, with a full launch in the 4th quarter of this year. As always, we will maintain parallel data so you can continue to use historic benchmarks in your planning and analysis tools.
  • Utilize the most advanced data science.
    To better serve you, we are utilizing the most advanced data and research methodologies, including big data, cloud computing and artificial intelligence. We also need to build entirely new and forward-looking forms of measurement. To do that successfully, we have over 500 of the world’s leading data scientists working on new big data approaches, and we are collaborating with the data science teams at leading platforms, networks, and agencies. Through our use of big datasets, we are able to combine millions of data points from direct publisher integrations, strategic partnerships and identity providers to resolve identity across all platforms and devices. Our panel also plays an unique and critical role. Nielsen remains the only company that can accurately validate identity against real consumer behavior thanks to our people-based panels. This combination allows for the most accurate person-level measurement across all platforms and devices. We also released parallel data for National TV measurement inclusive of our panels and big data from approximately 30 million households across DIRECTV, DISH, Roku and VIZIO. Our VIZIO relationship provides exclusive data for 400 local stations, where it is important to capture audiences who use antennas instead of cable boxes for broadcast networks. We also integrated broadband-only (BBO) homes into Nielsen’s local measurement metrics in January 2022 to ensure the growing population of streaming-only households is fully represented in our people-based panel.
  • Meet measurement accreditation standards.
    We believe adherence to rigorous measurement standards that reflect current audience realities and platform capabilities is critical for any measurement company. At Nielsen, our work with the Media Rating Council (MRC) is central to delivering on that. The MRC recently clarified that Nielsen is one of only two companies in the TV accreditation process, and that Nielsen is the only provider who has been consistently and fully audited over recent years. In the past several months, we have been working transparently with the MRC staff and member committees, taking their feedback on how to improve and sustain our services today and in the future. We continue to work toward accreditation of digital and linear measurement in 2022.
  • Deliver wholly unbiased results.
    For a thriving media ecosystem that works for all parties, the primary measurement cannot come from self-interested parties who are measuring themselves. History has shown that it doesn’t work. That said, we respect and learn from many groups across the industry who have formed committees on the subject of measurement. These include American Association of Advertising Agencies (4A’s), Association of National Advertisers (ANA), Advertising Research Foundation (ARF), Coalition for Innovative Media Measurement (CIMM), Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB), and Video Advertising Bureau (VAB), among others. Given that most of these associations are also MRC members, we will continue sharing our methodology through the MRC in a well-established, discrete, and transparent process. We are, of course, always looking for constructive feedback in all forums, while respecting the MRC process. This approach allows us to learn from different perspectives, while adhering to the principle of wholly unbiased results.
As the industry’s measurement currency of choice, we want to ensure you can plan and transact with confidence today and into the future. Our principles are clear, and we are executing on them.
Thank you again for all the trust you put in us and please know that we are working everyday to build a better measurement future for everyone.

Regards,
David Kenny
Chief Executive Officer
Nielsen
 
That is not a "questioning" of the Nielsen methodology. Today's methods are accepted as the best possible, but changes in the media landscape including technology, delivery systems and fragmentation of listener and viewer groups, requires enhancement of techniques.

Most of what is in the extremely vague Nielsen notice has to do with new media and new distribution systems, and not radio. Of course, we all know that "radio" will be folded in the future into "audio" surveys which will include all audio media.
 
Looks like I am not the only one questioning Nielsen methodology....
I feel you.
Our principles are clear,
This resolution or mission statement is like most these days in that it includes a bunch of "hot" words that sound good on their own, but are practically meaningless in the scope of the letter you received. One can sit there all day and say they'll be more inclusive, and more compatible, and have specific data to combat "big data" (LOL WTF), but it's a different ball-game to articulate how they have or will do it without going back to those key words. The only thing that really stood out is that Vizio TV's might have PPM's in them in the future.
 
The only thing that really stood out is that Vizio TV's might have PPM's in them in the future.
Where did you interpret that? A connection to one brand of TVs (and one that discerning buyers would never, ever purchase) would not be a representative sample. I believe that Nielsen is looking at the ability to connect its metering or measurement system directly to home devices. But the PPM has to be a portable device and Nielsen bought Arbitron to gain access to the patented technology.

Nielsen would love it if every TV set had a connection that output data on the programming being viewed. But that is not, alone, adequate for TV measurement. Nielsen requires each person in a household to indicate which TV set / screen they are viewing so that demographic data can be obtained. Nielsen does not measure sets or radios or computers, it measures people.
 
The way I read this is Nielsen is doubling down on its weighting of minorities. I can't see how that can help WECK.

I didn't see any mention of senior citizens among its representative minority groups for inclusion.
 
The way I read this is Nielsen is doubling down on its weighting of minorities. I can't see how that can help WECK.
Minorities are not "weighted" (nor is any other stratification category) unless the achieved sample is not proportional to the population being measured. If the population of a universe is 10% Hispanic, but the sample is only 8% Hispanic, it is weighted up to make it "worth" 10%. If persons 55+ are 18% of the universe, but 22% of the sample is in that age range, then each respondent is weighted down.

Nielsen currently has very accurate data on all the stratification variables, including age, gender, ethnicity, income, education and area of residence. What they are trying to do is insure that within the existing samples, important subsets are included proportionally.

An example is New York City, where the radio sample includes a disproportion of Dominicans and a shortage of Mexicans. This biases the results and does not reflect the market accurately. This is what Nielsen wants to eventually achieve.

This is the first time that Asian population groups have been so prominently mentioned.
I didn't see any mention of senior citizens among its representative minority groups for inclusion.
That is because seniors have always over-particpated in ratings and surveys. Further, it is a group most marketing / advertising efforts do not pay attention to.
 
Where did you interpret that?
There was this sentence...
Our VIZIO relationship provides exclusive data for 400 local stations, where it is important to capture audiences who use antennas instead of cable boxes for broadcast networks.
...which makes me wonder how they would accomplish reaching antenna houses?
A connection to one brand of TVs (and one that discerning buyers would never, ever purchase) would not be a representative sample. I believe that Nielsen is looking at the ability to connect its metering or measurement system directly to home devices. But the PPM has to be a portable device and Nielsen bought Arbitron to gain access to the patented technology.

Nielsen would love it if every TV set had a connection that output data on the programming being viewed. But that is not, alone, adequate for TV measurement. Nielsen requires each person in a household to indicate which TV set / screen they are viewing so that demographic data can be obtained. Nielsen does not measure sets or radios or computers, it measures people.
I take it the TV portion probably works differently than the radios, whereas TV is more of a survey of some kind that Nielsen gives out?
 
Minorities are not "weighted" (nor is any other stratification category) unless the achieved sample is not proportional to the population being measured.

However, the specific complaint expressed in this group by a certain owner is that the weighting, as done in Buffalo, is biased against his station and his listeners. I see nothing in the OP that addresses that complaint. If anything, they seem to be saying they will do more of the particular weighting that the owner dislikes.

At the same time, I don't see anything that addresses the owner's specific complaint.
 
There was this sentence...
Obviously, they use the ease of connection differently. But Nielsen has always served non-cable homes, but the device connection is different.
...which makes me wonder how they would accomplish reaching antenna houses?
They apparently grab data directly from the set tuner, but still have to get demographic data. I will ask someone in TV about this.
I take it the TV portion probably works differently than the radios, whereas TV is more of a survey of some kind that Nielsen gives out?
TV is mostly wired in metered household, and it takes set use and combines with who is viewing the set. The idea eventually is to use the PPM for all electronic media, video and audio.
 
However, the specific complaint expressed in this group by a certain owner is that the weighting, as done in Buffalo, is biased against his station and his listeners. I see nothing in the OP that addresses that complaint. If anything, they seem to be saying they will do more of the particular weighting that the owner dislikes.

At the same time, I don't see anything that addresses the owner's specific complaint.
Agree. Perfect summation.

Weighting is done to make the sample perfectly match the universe in miniature. Raw unweighted data is useless Except to demonstrate why weighting has to be done.
 
The way I read this is Nielsen is doubling down on its weighting of minorities. I can't see how that can help WECK.

I didn't see any mention of senior citizens among its representative minority groups for inclusion.
WECK obviously does very well with listeners over 60 and that's commendable. Perhaps that's why Buddy is aggravated. The station has peaked. He cannot go to his advertisers and demand higher rates. It must be about money. He's paying Nielsen and not getting the data he wants to see.

It's simply not realistic to expect an Oldies format in Buffalo to reach younger demos of different ethnic backgrounds. Advertisers who choose to use an Oldies format are savvy enough to know who the audience is. Nielsen is not cheating WECK in any way...
 
The way I read this is Nielsen is doubling down on its weighting of minorities. I can't see how that can help WECK.

I didn't see any mention of senior citizens among its representative minority groups for inclusion.
I did not say it could help WECK. I was simply pointing out that other subscribers are questioning methodology
 
WECK obviously does very well with listeners over 60 and that's commendable. Perhaps that's why Buddy is aggravated. The station has peaked. He cannot go to his advertisers and demand higher rates. It must be about money. He's paying Nielsen and not getting the data he wants to see.

It's simply not realistic to expect an Oldies format in Buffalo to reach younger demos of different ethnic backgrounds. Advertisers who choose to use an Oldies format are savvy enough to know who the audience is. Nielsen is not cheating WECK in any way...
What the HELL are you talking about? Who said ANYTHING about younger demos and minorities. ?
 
I did not say it could help WECK. I was simply pointing out that other subscribers are questioning methodology
Nobody is questioning the current methodology... Nielsen is trying to stay up with new needs in marketing programs and new ways to use ad-sponsored media.

I am waiting to see whether we find that "male" and "female" is not enough as marketers determine that there are separate consumer patterns among non-binary persons.
 
WECK obviously does very well with listeners over 60 and that's commendable. Perhaps that's why Buddy is aggravated. The station has peaked. He cannot go to his advertisers and demand higher rates. It must be about money. He's paying Nielsen and not getting the data he wants to see.

It's simply not realistic to expect an Oldies format in Buffalo to reach younger demos of different ethnic backgrounds. Advertisers who choose to use an Oldies format are savvy enough to know who the audience is. Nielsen is not cheating WECK in any way...
I don't see anything of the like in Buddy's post. He simply posted a press release from Nielsen where future plans are being announced. Of course most of the content is about new media and greater stratification of survey results, and does not have much impact at all with small local radio stations.
 
I don't see anything of the like in Buddy's post. He simply posted a press release from Nielsen where future plans are being announced. Of course most of the content is about new media and greater stratification of survey results, and does not have much impact at all with small local radio stations.
He has an axe to grind with Nielsen since he's constantly complaining. He could cancel his subscription and probably not lose advertisers. Since the overwhelming majority of WECK listeners are not in "the desirable saleable demos" that ad agencies covet, paying for Nielsen seems unnecessary. Money is the basis for his complaints...
 
Where did you interpret that? A connection to one brand of TVs (and one that discerning buyers would never, ever purchase)

What's wrong with Vizio? I have one of their TVs, have never had a problem. Picture is sharp, colors are true, audio is fine, it handles Xfinity Flex and Chromecast. What am I missing by not having some other brand?
 
He has an axe to grind with Nielsen since he's constantly complaining. He could cancel his subscription and probably not lose advertisers. Since the overwhelming majority of WECK listeners are not in "the desirable saleable demos" that ad agencies covet, paying for Nielsen seems unnecessary. Money is the basis for his complaints...
You are so freaking wrong, I don’t know where to start. Who walks you across the street. Yeah, we wanna go after 25 year olds who don’t have a pot to piss in.

I realize your old and have no money, but your the exception. Over 55 has all the money.

Get to know radio and marketing, will ya
 
I don't see anything of the like in Buddy's post. He simply posted a press release from Nielsen where future plans are being announced. Of course most of the content is about new media and greater stratification of survey results, and does not have much impact at all with small local radio stations.
WECK is not a small local station. It’s a big local station. Besting 5 50KW stations with 1 AM does not seem small to me.

Let’s talk tomorrow after the numbers come out
 
Over 55 has all the money.
Once again, you go for personal attacks. You're an embarrassment. You whine constantly because you think WECK is being cheated by Nielsen. It's not. Old geezers return more diaries, so "weighting" is used. Math is not your best subject.

It doesn't matter how much money 55 + demos have or don't have. Ad agencies don't target that group. It doesn't mean that you're wrong for trying. Most stations won't program for older listeners because they've decided it's "too hard to sell and not profitable". If you've solved that problem, you don't need Nielsen...
 
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