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KROQ, again

PTBoardOp94 said:
By the way, BigA, because I know you will try and argue with me: I will accept no rebuttal to this. Hiring and firing in a business. If that is too "complicated" for you, then you cannot be a manager.
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The preparation for a dismissal today goes through HR and, in more sensitive cases involving race, age or sexual orientation, legal. Union member dismissal involves a bunch of conditions set in the union contract being met, too. At significant stations, the manager may or may not even be present. If the station or cluster has an HR department, they will handle it.
 
ragazzo-pazzo said:
Several months ago - moral of the story, well I don't have a moral to the story... write one yourself.
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What it tells me is it's even less likely that he'll be going away from KROQ any time soon.

MarkW said:
Next move KROQ needs to make is to dump the uber boring Kevan Kenney from evenings. The station should sound fun & energetic at all times (other than maybe Sunday morning or Sunday evening); he fails to bring that sort of vibe to the table.
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Now that I've seen some of Kevan's KROQ videos I disagree with the view that he's boring.
 
TheBigA said:
What it tells me is it's even less likely that he'll be going away from KROQ any time soon.
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BigA, you often pontificate here with great assurance and conviction, as is your right - this is just one example. I have no idea what will become of Kevan Kenney, but I damn sure wouldn't place money on what you're betting.
 
Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned, but KROQ has reverted back to the 2004-2020 logo, the 2016 version with the orange KROQ potion of the logo filled in with palm trees.
 
Surprised this hasn’t been mentioned, but KROQ has reverted back to the 2004-2020 logo, the 2016 version with the orange KROQ potion of the logo filled in with palm trees.
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I love that logo, but why is it so small on the station's web page? Are Audacy's web people truly that incompetent?
 
ragazzo-pazzo said:
SBS LA has voted to de-certify. No longer SAG/AFTRA.
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That was quick. The certification is only about a year old. They appear to have "enabled" the departure of the union organizers, which allowed for a new election.
ragazzo-pazzo said:
Also note that not all of Audacy LA is union. KROQ is not, nor are any of the HD sub channels that have staff.
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That is an interesting fact. I was not aware that HD sub-channels might be excluded from a contract. And that makes me wonder how, in the same building, some "like jobs" could be union positions and others non-union.

I've never been involved with a mixed union and non-union environment, but can only imagine how difficult that could be.
 
DavidEduardo said:
That was quick. The certification is only about a year old. They appear to have "enabled" the departure of the union organizers, which allowed for a new election.

That is an interesting fact. I was not aware that HD sub-channels might be excluded from a contract. And that makes me wonder how, in the same building, some "like jobs" could be union positions and others non-union.

I've never been involved with a mixed union and non-union environment, but can only imagine how difficult that could be.
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The SBS certification actually happened in 2016. Ownership managed to drag their feet, with the union complaining more than once to NLRB that SBS was negotiating in bad faith. Ultimately it dragged on long enough, and as you say the organizers departures were enabled, leading to a decertification sometime last year.
 
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DavidEduardo said:
That was quick. The certification is only about a year old. They appear to have "enabled" the departure of the union organizers, which allowed for a new election.

That is an interesting fact. I was not aware that HD sub-channels might be excluded from a contract. And that makes me wonder how, in the same building, some "like jobs" could be union positions and others non-union.

I've never been involved with a mixed union and non-union environment, but can only imagine how difficult that could be.
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I'm almost positive that when I was babysitting the FM automation in 1973, the AM was a union shop!
 
DavidEduardo said:
That was quick. The certification is only about a year old. They appear to have "enabled" the departure of the union organizers, which allowed for a new election.

That is an interesting fact. I was not aware that HD sub-channels might be excluded from a contract. And that makes me wonder how, in the same building, some "like jobs" could be union positions and others non-union.

I've never been involved with a mixed union and non-union environment, but can only imagine how difficult that could be.
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One of the newspapers I've been with had that uncomfortable situation for years, ending shortly before I was hired. The editorial/advertising/sales staff was non-union, composition and production (paste-up and the press room) were union. From what I understand, there were fairly frequent incidents involving copy editors noticing an error in paste-up and making the mistake of trying to move the elements into place on their own, only to be snarled at by the paste-up artists to take their fingers off the page and let one of them make the change. This ended when management and the union could not agree on a new contract, the unionized composers and pressmen walked out, and management called their bluff by hiring experienced non-union replacements.

I had an excellent relationship with several of those new hires, and was surprised when colleague who'd lived through the "troubles" told me that such joking and small talk never took place just a few years earlier. Of course, about 30 years later, when the paper decided to downsize by getting rid of the most senior news/advertising staff first -- that meant me and other long-timers -- I kind of wished I had the protection a union would have offered!
 
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