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Zanesville, OH (July 6, 1985)

from The Times Recorder via Newspapers.com

2 WHIZ-NBC Zanesville
4 WCMH-NBC Columbus
5 Showtime
6 WTVN-ABC Columbus
7 WTRF-CBS/ABC Wheeling
8 CNN
9 WSFJ Newark
10 WBNS-CBS Columbus
11 WOUB-PBS Athens
12 WOSU-PBS Columbus
13 WTBS Atlanta
16 CBN
17 C-SPAN
18 ESPN
19 Lifetime
20 The Movie Channel
21 HBO
22 Cinemax
25 Disney Channel
26 USA Network
27 MTV
29 TNN
30 Nickelodeon/A&E
31 Weather Channel
33 Playboy Channel
 
The Zanesville TV market is weird. It is comprised of a single county (Muskingum) and there is absolutely no reason for it to stand apart from Columbus (which virtually surrounds it on all sides), except for the existence of WHIZ. The way NBC has pulled secondary affiliations in various markets (Washington/Hagerstown, SLC/Elko, Philadelphia/Wildwood, may be others), I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them do the same with WHIZ. I do suspect that locals, and not just in Muskingum County, have a strong loyalty to WHIZ for local news, and that may be what makes the station viable. If NBC did ever pull that affiliation, they could go with a minor network or even a diginet, but I'm not sure that would keep the station viable, or viable enough to support a news operation. KENV's news in Elko perished for similar reasons, and it was far more needed, because there is absolutely no other station anywhere near Elko, whereas in theory, Columbus stations could cover Zanesville news. If they went with Cozi TV, they'd be basically a full-powered version of WTZP-LP in Portsmouth, a brave little TV station if I've ever seen such a thing, makes me think of WRLO back in the 1960s. They were even attempting local news at one point, not sure if they still have it, I haven't seen it (I don't live anywhere near Portsmouth).

WTRF made sense as being an out-of-market station fairly nearby, that could provide a second CBS affiliate (with a handful of ABC shows as well). You could probably get WTRF in Zanesville OTA (at least in certain spots) with a high-gain antenna.
 
I'm a little shocked KENV didn't switch to a semi-satellite of KUTV in 2018 with one or two separate newscasts per day (also simulcasting most of KUTV's newscasts)
 
I'm a little shocked KENV didn't switch to a semi-satellite of KUTV in 2018 with one or two separate newscasts per day (also simulcasting most of KUTV's newscasts)
That would have been better than what they have now --- they are a TBD O&O affiliate (Sinclair). The way I heard it, KSL didn't even know there was another NBC affiliate in their market, and when they found out, they pitched a fit and made NBC pull KENV's affiliation.

What you describe is like the relationship of WKYT in Lexington KY and its semi-satellite WYMT in Hazard, which serves as the CBS affiliate for the eastern mountain area roughly south of I-64, but WKYT and WYMT are owned by the same company, whereas KSL and KENV are not.
 
The way NBC has pulled secondary affiliations in various markets (Washington/Hagerstown, SLC/Elko, Philadelphia/Wildwood, may be others), I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see them do the same with WHIZ.
You are comparing apples to coconuts. Zanesville is its own DMA. Hagerstown is in the DC DMA and Wildwood is in the Philly DMA. The NBC's in those markets are owned by Comcast/NBC so all they had to do to WMGM and WHAG is what they did. "Hey when the contract is coming up we are not going to allow you to renew it"

I do suspect that locals, and not just in Muskingum County, have a strong loyalty to WHIZ for local news, and that may be what makes the station viable.
possibly. But as someone who lives in a small market (#199 Mankato, MN) in the shadow of a large market (#15 Minneapolis) even the local news may not help. While I do watch KEYC nightly (Mankato) mainly for the weather the fact that I have access to the Minneapolis stations I will still watch NBC KARE 11 because they cover more than KEYC does. If I want to know about a new business opening up or expanding or something truly local to Mankato yeah KEYC is the way to go. But Minneapolis stations cover more topics (although they omit Mankato unless its a big story or when the MN Vikings had training camp here). I will give KEYC credit now that KTTC NBC in Rochester, MN (DMA in Southeastern MN) is owned by Gray (same as KEYC) they share stories.

One other note...WHIZ was locally owned. The owners are in the process of selling WHIZ and its AM/FM cluster to Marqee Broadcasting, who owns network stations in Maryland (WMDT ABC Salisbury), Kentucky (WNKY NBC/CBS), and Georgia (WSWG CBS Albany) along with a couple stations that have just diginets on them. Since Zanesville is its own DMA, Marquee can add network stations if they do desire and Columbus stations cant do diddly squat. Would they? Possibly. More advertising $$'s coming in.
WTRF made sense as being an out-of-market station fairly nearby, that could provide a second CBS affiliate (with a handful of ABC shows as well). You could probably get WTRF in Zanesville OTA (at least in certain spots) with a high-gain antenna.
Wheeling is approx 65 miles from Zanesville so in the analog days I'm sure it could get picked up
 
You are comparing apples to coconuts. Zanesville is its own DMA. Hagerstown is in the DC DMA and Wildwood is in the Philly DMA. The NBC's in those markets are owned by Comcast/NBC so all they had to do to WMGM and WHAG is what they did. "Hey when the contract is coming up we are not going to allow you to renew it"
True, I see what you are saying, also, while KSL is not owned by NBC, KENV was in their market, so they evidently had the clout to make it happen. Interesting question you raise, could a network affiliate (whether O&O or not) seek to wipe out an adjacent "infill" DMA by demanding that the network pull the affiliation of a station in that DMA, thus allowing the larger market to absorb the county or counties comprising that DMA? IOW, could WCMH tell NBC "we don't want competition from WHIZ anymore, we want to absorb Muskingum County into the Columbus DMA, do to them what you did to KENV when KSL raised a stink"? In theory, a WHIZ with only a diginet affiliation (Cozi, for instance) could be the core of an infill DMA, but it would be no more viable than KENV is right now, and that DMA would almost certainly cease to exist.
possibly. But as someone who lives in a small market (#199 Mankato, MN) in the shadow of a large market (#15 Minneapolis) even the local news may not help. While I do watch KEYC nightly (Mankato) mainly for the weather the fact that I have access to the Minneapolis stations I will still watch NBC KARE 11 because they cover more than KEYC does. If I want to know about a new business opening up or expanding or something truly local to Mankato yeah KEYC is the way to go. But Minneapolis stations cover more topics (although they omit Mankato unless its a big story or when the MN Vikings had training camp here). I will give KEYC credit now that KTTC NBC in Rochester, MN (DMA in Southeastern MN) is owned by Gray (same as KEYC) they share stories.

There's a lot of sharing between Gray stations WSAZ, WKYT, and WYMT in eastern Kentucky, along those same lines.

One other note...WHIZ was locally owned. The owners are in the process of selling WHIZ and its AM/FM cluster to Marqee Broadcasting, who owns network stations in Maryland (WMDT ABC Salisbury), Kentucky (WNKY NBC/CBS), and Georgia (WSWG CBS Albany) along with a couple stations that have just diginets on them. Since Zanesville is its own DMA, Marquee can add network stations if they do desire and Columbus stations cant do diddly squat. Would they? Possibly. More advertising $$'s coming in.

I hadn't thought of the possibility of WHIZ adding networks on subchannels, if that is what you are referring to. That is what Gray station WTAP did in nearby Parkersburg WV, cobbling together LPTVs, getting them network affiliations, and then simulcasting them on WTAP. Gray station WHSV in Harrisonburg VA did something similar. There's no reason WHIZ couldn't do that, and would not even to have to jump through all those hoops of acquiring LPTVs. WHSV now has ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX and WTAP only lacks ABC.

There was a fantasy proposal of sorts, may have been on this forum, may have been somewhere else, of folding Zanesville and Parkersburg into a single market and presumably rearranging the network affiliations to eliminate redundancy. I'm not sure how much Zanesville and Parkersburg-Marietta have in common other than reasonably close proximity, but then again Greenville, Spartanburg, and Asheville comprise a single behemoth market in the Carolinas, and Asheville is very different from either of the other two cities (Asheville is "very different" from pretty much anyplace!) and they are distinct economic entities as well, due both to distance and terrain.

Wheeling is approx 65 miles from Zanesville so in the analog days I'm sure it could get picked up

Got to wonder if the same holds true in the digital era.
 
Interesting question you raise, could a network affiliate (whether O&O or not) seek to wipe out an adjacent "infill" DMA by demanding that the network pull the affiliation of a station in that DMA, thus allowing the larger market to absorb the county or counties comprising that DMA? IOW, could WCMH tell NBC "we don't want competition from WHIZ anymore, we want to absorb Muskingum County into the Columbus DMA, do to them what you did to KENV when KSL raised a stink"?
Since they are different DMA's nothing can be done. Nielsen is the company that would be allowed to make that change but with Zanesville being a single county I doubt anything would happen. Its been like that for 70 years
The KSL/KENV issue is its the same DMA
I hadn't thought of the possibility of WHIZ adding networks on subchannels, if that is what you are referring to. That is what Gray station WTAP did in nearby Parkersburg WV, cobbling together LPTVs, getting them network affiliations, and then simulcasting them on WTAP. Gray station WHSV in Harrisonburg VA did something similar. There's no reason WHIZ couldn't do that, and would not even to have to jump through all those hoops of acquiring LPTVs. WHSV now has ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX and WTAP only lacks ABC.
That is what happened here in Mankato. KEYC was just CBS for 47 years. In 2007 they added FOX as a sub. In 2019 after Gray TV bought KEYC from United Communications they took a translator that they owned, moved it to the KEYC tower and put NBC and CW on it. So Mankato has everything but ABC. At the time it was asked if they would add ABC and we were told no due to anti-monopoly rules. Yet they (Gray) do it in Harrisonburg. Recently Stephen Marks did it with WBKB Alpena, MI. They were CBS, FOX and ABC but recently added NBC. Reckon ABC & FOX are in SD only.

With people cutting the cord Marquee (once the transaction gets approved) could possibly add other networks. I honestly don't know.
 
That is what happened here in Mankato. KEYC was just CBS for 47 years. In 2007 they added FOX as a sub. In 2019 after Gray TV bought KEYC from United Communications they took a translator that they owned, moved it to the KEYC tower and put NBC and CW on it. So Mankato has everything but ABC. At the time it was asked if they would add ABC and we were told no due to anti-monopoly rules. Yet they (Gray) do it in Harrisonburg. Recently Stephen Marks did it with WBKB Alpena, MI. They were CBS, FOX and ABC but recently added NBC. Reckon ABC & FOX are in SD only.

Harrisonburg was this complicated musical-chairs game involving, as with WTAP in Parkersburg, several LPTVs that were then repurposed to cobble together a full-network market. The NBC station in Harrisonburg was at one time a simulcast of WVIR in Charlottesville, and may still be --- they carry WVIR news. It makes little sense to me, for Harrisonburg and Charlottesville to be separate markets, in fact, at one time (this per Broadcasting Yearbook) they were merged into a single market, then separated. The two towns have a lot in common, both college towns, though Charlottesville hosts the elite UVA, whereas James Madison University in Harrisonburg, while an entirely decent and respectable school (Virginia has an outstanding public college system, my wife got her BA from George Mason), is no UVA. C'ville is also more self-consciously historical, while Harrisonburg is just... Harrisonburg.

I've heard grumblings from the Harrisonburg market that, now that there is nominal full-network service via WHSV, this has largely eliminated more professional (and more interesting) local news from Washington via cable and dish. People tend to want to watch "big city news", but now in Harrisonburg, all they have is a single local news source from basically a rural area, unless you count WVIR's news from Charlottesville. I'd imagine sentiments in Alpena are similar, though Traverse City isn't exactly a metropolis.
 
The NBC station in Harrisonburg was at one time a simulcast of WVIR in Charlottesville, and may still be --- they carry WVIR news.
When Gray bought WVIR they turned the translators that were in Harrisonburg into a legit low powered station (same thing they did in Mankato with what is now KMNF-LD) which gives them more leeway to carry different stations and mainly programs (although both stations carry the same networks). But yes the NBC station does carry NBC29 news from Charlottesville

I've heard grumblings from the Harrisonburg market that, now that there is nominal full-network service via WHSV, this has largely eliminated more professional (and more interesting) local news from Washington via cable and dish. People tend to want to watch "big city news", but now in Harrisonburg, all they have is a single local news source from basically a rural area, unless you count WVIR's news from Charlottesville. I'd imagine sentiments in Alpena are similar, though Traverse City isn't exactly a metropolis.
WRC NBC DC is carried on cable according to zap2it. But yes when a major market station is pulled for a small market folks get angry. When Gray launched KMNF NBC Dish and Directv were required to pull KARE NBC from Mpls. Folks were angry as KARE news is real good. (I watch it nightly as I have cable included in my rent) Cable kept it as they could due to significant viewed. (Big 4 Minneapolis stations are on cable in Mankato alongside the locals.) On satellite the only out of market station they get is KSTP ABC Minneapolis but their news is not as good.

The drawback with these small market news is its pretty much the same on all nets. As example here in Mankato
morning news from 5:30-7 on both KEYC CBS and KMNF NBC....the news is then replayed from 7-8:30 on KEYC FOX (the Doctors use to be on at 7 and Good Dish at 8. With both being cancelled they put Doctors on at 4am before Shepherd's Chapel and Doctors on at 9 replacing a rerun of Dr Phil)
noon and 5 are just on KEYC CBS
6 is on both CBS & NBC
9 is on FOX with now a rerun at 11 (removing an episode of 2 1/2 men)
10 is on both CBS & NBC
I think the 10pm is rerun after the late shows on both nets.....and it seems like the same stories are on all the newscasts

I know people threw a fit when Traverse City NBC was removed for Alpena NBC which shows the same newscasts across the board
 
I think I've seen in some areas where a formerly significantly viewed station still has their newscasts (and possibly any network or syndicated program that goes uncleared in the home market, which is very rare now) carried on an otherwise public access or infomercial channel.
 
Scottsbluff, Nebraska cable still carries KUSA Denver but only for news. It’s listed on channel guides as ‘9 news only’
 
When Gray bought WVIR they turned the translators that were in Harrisonburg into a legit low powered station (same thing they did in Mankato with what is now KMNF-LD) which gives them more leeway to carry different stations and mainly programs (although both stations carry the same networks). But yes the NBC station does carry NBC29 news from Charlottesville


WRC NBC DC is carried on cable according to zap2it. But yes when a major market station is pulled for a small market folks get angry. When Gray launched KMNF NBC Dish and Directv were required to pull KARE NBC from Mpls. Folks were angry as KARE news is real good. (I watch it nightly as I have cable included in my rent) Cable kept it as they could due to significant viewed. (Big 4 Minneapolis stations are on cable in Mankato alongside the locals.) On satellite the only out of market station they get is KSTP ABC Minneapolis but their news is not as good.

The drawback with these small market news is its pretty much the same on all nets. As example here in Mankato
morning news from 5:30-7 on both KEYC CBS and KMNF NBC....the news is then replayed from 7-8:30 on KEYC FOX (the Doctors use to be on at 7 and Good Dish at 8. With both being cancelled they put Doctors on at 4am before Shepherd's Chapel and Doctors on at 9 replacing a rerun of Dr Phil)
noon and 5 are just on KEYC CBS
6 is on both CBS & NBC
9 is on FOX with now a rerun at 11 (removing an episode of 2 1/2 men)
10 is on both CBS & NBC
I think the 10pm is rerun after the late shows on both nets.....and it seems like the same stories are on all the newscasts

I know people threw a fit when Traverse City NBC was removed for Alpena NBC which shows the same newscasts across the board

Yes, in a single-station market, such as Parkersburg, Harrisonburg, or (I believe I'm correct in saying this) Lima, it is basically the same newscast, same news team, with possibly some difference in logo and graphics, to give the illusion of "watching a different station". It's probably no more incongruous for a small town to have a single TV newscast, than it is for them to have a single daily newspaper, but at the end of the day, there is only one voice, and it could get monotonous sometimes. Yet it's also probably no more incongruous or monotonous than a viewer who, even if they have choices, always watch a single station's news, "because that's what I always watch", or because it's the 800-pound gorilla in town, like WSAZ in Huntington WV or WLOS in Asheville NC.
 
I think I've seen in some areas where a formerly significantly viewed station still has their newscasts (and possibly any network or syndicated program that goes uncleared in the home market, which is very rare now) carried on an otherwise public access or infomercial channel.

I have a vague memory of seeing something like that in South Point OH (across the river from Huntington WV) with WXIX from Cincinnati (licensed to Newport KY, basically the same place). I was traveling through there several years ago and stayed overnight, and saw this on the local cable. Seems that it would make more sense to provide in-state news from Columbus than Cincinnati, though, in that Columbus is the capital and only has to cover Ohio stories, whereas Cincinnati stations have to cover Ohio, Kentucky, and to a lesser extent Indiana.
 
I have a vague memory of seeing something like that in South Point OH (across the river from Huntington WV) with WXIX from Cincinnati (licensed to Newport KY, basically the same place). I was traveling through there several years ago and stayed overnight, and saw this on the local cable. Seems that it would make more sense to provide in-state news from Columbus than Cincinnati, though, in that Columbus is the capital and only has to cover Ohio stories, whereas Cincinnati stations have to cover Ohio, Kentucky, and to a lesser extent Indiana.

In 2017, I stayed at a hotel in Troy, OH and the local cable had a channel that was EWTN most of the time but aired newscasts from WLIO in Lima (I think EWTN was fully carried on a different channel as well)
 
In 2017, I stayed at a hotel in Troy, OH and the local cable had a channel that was EWTN most of the time but aired newscasts from WLIO in Lima (I think EWTN was fully carried on a different channel as well)
Can't figure out what would have been the point of that, Troy is basically a suburb/exurb of Dayton, and news from Lima would seem to be of little interest that far south. If they were going to do any out-of-market news cut-ins like that, you'd think it would be a station from Cincinnati or Columbus. Perhaps it was a cable system that served a large area, and Troy was just on the southern tip of that service area.
 
Can't figure out what would have been the point of that, Troy is basically a suburb/exurb of Dayton, and news from Lima would seem to be of little interest that far south. If they were going to do any out-of-market news cut-ins like that, you'd think it would be a station from Cincinnati or Columbus. Perhaps it was a cable system that served a large area, and Troy was just on the southern tip of that service area.
The Troy system also serves Piqua
 
The Troy system also serves Piqua

That could explain it, Piqua is north of Troy towards Lima. But you'd still think they'd drop in Columbus (or possibly Cincinnati) news rather than Lima, because, and there is no nice way to put this, Lima isn't a terribly important place except to the people who live there or possibly in an adjacent county. But Lima's closer than Columbus or Cincinnati, so whatever.
 
I know people threw a fit when Traverse City NBC was removed for Alpena NBC which shows the same newscasts across the board
When SyndEx came into law, Ellensburg residents were not pleased seeing KOMO/KING/KIRO Seattle go into 'blackout' mode most of the day and night. Seattle stations have been on cable since the mid-late '60s. They preferred the higher-quality programming from Seattle than the stations in Yakima. In fact, KAPP-35 was only available on an analog translator (ch 63) for several years in the '80s, and King VideoCable provided KOMO 4 for ABC. They were forced to change this come January of 1990. KAPP ended up on channel 8 and KOMO went into the 20s.
 
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