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KOGO transmitter damaged?

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mr_arbitron

Saturday afternoon, KOGO went off the air. The stream was OK. They returned about 7 pm but I noticed the signal strength had dropped. When I got to my office this morning, I turned on the radio and the signal is definately down-approaching the noise floor.

Anybody notice this?
 
mr_arbitron said:
Saturday afternoon, KOGO went off the air. The stream was OK. They returned about 7 pm but I noticed the signal strength had dropped. When I got to my office this morning, I turned on the radio and the signal is definately down-approaching the noise floor.

Anybody notice this?
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I beleive they are in the process of moving to a different site where they will share with another station.
 
600 KOGO is moving to the 760 KGB (ex KFMB) site.
Day power is increasing from 5,000 watts to 9,000 watts.
Night power is going from 5,000 watts to 10,000 watts.
FCC's messed up access to the actual applications so don't know the gains & losses of coverage.
 
boiseengineer said:
600 KOGO is moving to the 760 KGB (ex KFMB) site.
Day power is increasing from 5,000 watts to 9,000 watts.
Night power is going from 5,000 watts to 10,000 watts.
FCC's messed up access to the actual applications so don't know the gains & losses of coverage.
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And Co-go will share with Kuff-Mub.
 
Wow, listening tonight and there is a serious degradation of the night-time signal in the North County of San Diego. I thought maybe there was something wrong with the engineering at KOGO because it sounded like two voices talking at once, but then I realized that it was another station fighting it out with KOGO. I just chalked it up to signal problems tonight, but if this is a permanent move, I-Heart has really blown the great coverage they used to have in the North County. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me!
 
asugeorge1 said:
Wow, listening tonight and there is a serious degradation of the night-time signal in the North County of San Diego. I thought maybe there was something wrong with the engineering at KOGO because it sounded like two voices talking at once, but then I realized that it was another station fighting it out with KOGO. I just chalked it up to signal problems tonight, but if this is a permanent move, I-Heart has really blown the great coverage they used to have in the North County. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me!
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They are likely using low power or a temporary antenna while they do the transfer.
 
mr_arbitron said:
Saturday afternoon, KOGO went off the air. The stream was OK. They returned about 7 pm but I noticed the signal strength had dropped. When I got to my office this morning, I turned on the radio and the signal is definately down-approaching the noise floor.

Anybody notice this?
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Yes, KOGO signal strengh had definitely dropped when I tuned in last night.
 
asugeorge1 said:
I reached out to the fine folks at KOGO and I was informed by the Regional Engineer that late Saturday, there was a fire at the KOGO transmitter site that damaged components in the KOGO transmitter system. Replacement parts are arriving today and KOGO should be back at full power this afternoon. Yay!
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By chance, was there any mention of when the move, and power increase will happen?
 
Wow! Thanks to asugeorge for the great information.

I would say that unless they fix the xmitter, ad buyers should get some reimburesments cuz KOGO is off the air
 
There is a long standing policy in radio and TV to make the advertisers whole when technical issues occur. It is called a "make good" and I had to program in a ton of them one time when our automation system went on strike. We were the accidental pioneers of the "no commercial weekend" before that was a thing.

Whoops.
 
mr_arbitron said:
Wow! Thanks to asugeorge for the great information.

I would say that unless they fix the xmitter, ad buyers should get some reimburesments cuz KOGO is off the air
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That is normal practice. They will get make-goods when the problem is fixed.

Adding to New Chico's post, this is a practice that goes beyond a technical issue. For example, when there is an emergency like a storm or flood and the station runs all service elements, the spots will be run later.
 
KilowattKat said:
By chance, was there any mention of when the move, and power increase will happen?
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No, there was not. The person who I talked to was the Regional Engineering Lead for I-Heart and there was only the mention of the current situation caused by a fire at the KOGO transmitter. Hopefully whatever move is in the works doesn’t happen for a while because even with the increase in power, I think the move to the KGB tower will degrade the signal up the coast from the current site. Time will tell!
 
Does anyone know when KOGO is actually going to be operating from the KGB 760 site? As everyone is aware the KOGO 600 signal is "local" all the way up the coast to beyond Santa Barbara. The proposed changes with the new site and the increase in power indicate that the signal to the North and West should be the same or even better than they have been.
 
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TomásEstefan said:
Does anyone know when KOGO is actually going to be operating from the KGB 760 site? As everyone is aware the KOGO 600 signal is "local" all the way up the coast to beyond Santa Barbara. The proposed changes with the new site and the increase in power indicate that the signal to the North and West should be the same or even better than they have been.
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The only reason to insure a good signal to the north is to serve "North County" which has grown enormously in recent decades. They have zero interest in anything beyond that.
 
DavidEduardo said:
The only reason to insure a good signal to the north is to serve "North County" which has grown enormously in recent decades. They have zero interest in anything beyond that.
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Ah...but that "tremendous signal" to the Northwest will ensure an excellent signal to noise ratio...possibly twice the voltage of their sister station 760.
 
TomásEstefan said:
Ah...but that "tremendous signal" to the Northwest will ensure an excellent signal to noise ratio...possibly twice the voltage of their sister station 760.
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That is true. When I see posts saying "they don't need 50,000 watts any more" those posters don't realize that power today allows for noise-free building penetration in the local market. Try that with 1 kw!
 
DavidEduardo said:
That is true. When I see posts saying "they don't need 50,000 watts any more" those posters don't realize that power today allows for noise-free building penetration in the local market. Try that with 1 kw!
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That's right 760 KGB's daytime signal's ERP is 5 kW. Although KOGO 600 is officially 5 kW, their directional day and night ERP is at least 20 kW, possibly closer to 30 kW based on measured signal along the coast. At my location in the West SFV they measure almost 3 mV whereas 760 is only about 0.5 mV
 
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