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Hays, KS (September 1, 1971)

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from Hays Daily News via Newspapers.com

2 KCKT-NBC Great Bend
3 Weather/Music
4 KTWU-PBS Topeka
* Kansas City stations air when KTWU is off-air; carrying KCMO weekdays and WDAF on weekends
5 KBMA Kansas City
6 KAYS-CBS/ABC Hays
9 KMBC-ABC Kansas City
11 KAKE-ABC Topeka
13 WIBW-CBS/ABC Topeka
 
I find this fascinating! Hays was and is in the "Wichita Hutchinson+" megamarket. KCKT was tied in with KARD in Wichita and KAYS shared some programming from KTVH in Hutchinson, but it's odd that Hays didn't get KAKE/KUPK from Wichita/Garden City, which should have been the local ABC. Topeka and KC are rather more distant signals to be importing.
 
fybush said:
I find this fascinating! Hays was and is in the "Wichita Hutchinson+" megamarket. KCKT was tied in with KARD in Wichita and KAYS shared some programming from KTVH in Hutchinson, but it's odd that Hays didn't get KAKE/KUPK from Wichita/Garden City, which should have been the local ABC. Topeka and KC are rather more distant signals to be importing.
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I wondered this myself, why no Wichita (aside from the rebroadcast programs on KCKT and KAYS)?
 
I've also wondered, do any of the statewide "networks" in Kansas have their programming on satellite (Dish/DirecTV), or is it straight Wichita? And do they have any local cut-ins?

It's somewhat similar to the situation with WKYT Lexington and WYMT Hazard in Kentucky, though in that case, WYMT is a "semi-satellite" of WKYT, and I really wouldn't even call it that, as they have their own lineup of non-network programming as well as their own news, simulcasting WKYT news for some of their newscasts. I'd think of them more as two stations owned by the same company (Gray), affiliated with the same network, and sharing resources. There has been a battle for years to get WYMT on the dishes (they finally put in on Dish Network for part of the market), as WYMT provides a unique service to its part of the state. I have to wonder if there is anything like that in western and northern Kansas, or if it's just straight Wichita. The Albuquerque market has a similar situation with its satellites, no local news, no schedule variation, just straight pass-through of ABQ with possibly local ads.
 
fybush said:
but it's odd that Hays didn't get KAKE/KUPK from Wichita/Garden City, which should have been the local ABC.
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They did... look at Channel 11. He just mistook KAKE in Wichita for Topeka.
 
itsTheRolyPoly said:
They did... look at Channel 11. He just mistook KAKE in Wichita for Topeka.
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Okay, then, that would have provided a full complement of Wichita-based network affiliates, with KAKE being straight from Wichita, and KCKT and KAYS being satellites of their Wichita parent stations. Evidently it was easier just to get KAKE from Wichita instead of its satellite KUPK (cute pun) from Garden City, and KLBY Colby didn't exist then.

Fun fact: I came through Colby in 1985, got the Kansas State TV Guide, and KLBY was listed as an independent. It was fairly new and hadn't started relaying KAKE yet. Here's more on KLBY:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLBY
 
IM42A said:
I've also wondered, do any of the statewide "networks" in Kansas have their programming on satellite (Dish/DirecTV), or is it straight Wichita? And do they have any local cut-ins?
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Straight Wichita for both providers
KSNW (NBC), KPTS (PBS), KOOD (PBS from Hays), KAKE (ABC), KWCH (CBS), KSAS (FOX), KSAS-D2 (MY), KDCU (UNI), KSCW (CW)

Dish carries KMTW which was the My Net affiliation until Sinclair moved it to their own station (KSAS). KMTW is now Dabl

So even in Elkhart, KS (Morton County, Furthest West and South county) still gets Wichita
 
Mr Tony said:
Straight Wichita for both providers
KSNW (NBC), KPTS (PBS), KOOD (PBS from Hays), KAKE (ABC), KWCH (CBS), KSAS (FOX), KSAS-D2 (MY), KDCU (UNI), KSCW (CW)

Dish carries KMTW which was the My Net affiliation until Sinclair moved it to their own station (KSAS). KMTW is now Dabl

So even in Elkhart, KS (Morton County, Furthest West and South county) still gets Wichita
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Huh. Not even Telemundo Kansas from KSNW is available?
 
itsTheRolyPoly said:
Huh. Not even Telemundo Kansas from KSNW is available?
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nope mainly because its a subchannel. Dish mainly carries subchannels of Big 4 nets or if the owner of the -1 station throws a fit in retrans negotiations to get it added.

Directv will usually carry subs but I guess not in this case.
I'm shocked Dish is still carrying KMTW because of them losing the My affiliation. Thats why Sinclair moved nets from stations they run to stations they own. It usually meant they gave up the must carry rights for the "leftover" station.
 
I find it fascinating that Topeka had a shared ABC/CBS affiliate in the 70s. Wikipedia shows Topeka's population at 125000 in 1970 and 115000 in 1980, so it did drop, but that should still be more than enough for separate affiliates. Did their proximity to Kansas City play into it?
 
NoDakObserver said:
I find it fascinating that Topeka had a shared ABC/CBS affiliate in the 70s. Wikipedia shows Topeka's population at 125000 in 1970 and 115000 in 1980, so it did drop, but that should still be more than enough for separate affiliates. Did their proximity to Kansas City play into it?
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Probably. That and St Joe's only station KQTV was also an ABC affiliate. Wiki even mentions KC's ABC was on cable in Wichita until 2013

The inception of channel 49 made Topeka one of the last television markets in the United States to have full-time affiliations from all three networks. Most of the area, however, could receive the entire ABC schedule from KMBC-TV in Kansas City or KQTV in St. Joseph. Both KMBC-TV and KQTV decently covered Topeka over the air, and KMBC-TV continued to be available on cable in Topeka for decades until Cox Communications removed the station from its lineup on March 6, 2013 due to frequent programming blackouts from enforcement of syndication exclusivity and network non-duplication rules
 
Mr Tony said:
Probably. That and St Joe's only station KQTV was also an ABC affiliate. Wiki even mentions KC's ABC was on cable in Wichita until 2013

The inception of channel 49 made Topeka one of the last television markets in the United States to have full-time affiliations from all three networks. Most of the area, however, could receive the entire ABC schedule from KMBC-TV in Kansas City or KQTV in St. Joseph. Both KMBC-TV and KQTV decently covered Topeka over the air, and KMBC-TV continued to be available on cable in Topeka for decades until Cox Communications removed the station from its lineup on March 6, 2013 due to frequent programming blackouts from enforcement of syndication exclusivity and network non-duplication rules
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Wichita? I'm confused.
 
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