106.5 the lake existing is why Major 105.7 will probably never go past the 80s
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You mean Majic and they do go into the '90s. If time changes, then The Lake would have to go 90s and 2000s focused and Majic more 70s through 90s or 80s and 90s.
It would almost be better to classify music by presidential administrations.
Majic 105.7 is Nixon to Bush 41
106.5 The Lake is Reagan to Obama
96.5 Kiss FM is Trump to Biden
I believe that "Mother I-Heart" has a major say in who plays AT 40. I also miss listening to the count down on Sunday!
Which I guess then makes WCLV King George III to George Washington
Actually I think that is still one of those decisions that gets to be made at a local/regional level. I know another market had a new SVPP come in some years back and immediately had all the syndicated shows dropped on their Classic Hits and Classic Rock station (Casey, The 80s Show with Jeff Stevens, Time Warp with Bill St James, House of Hair). A year and change later and the SVPP swapped out again and some of those shows came back.
WMMS no longer airs House of Hair, and 1065 no longer airs The 80s Show. I get the impression it could very well be a Keith Kennedy doesn't really care for syndicated shows decision.
Which is ironic, as iHateRadio is really pushing out the live local talent in favor of voicetracked, (or live national talent), programming that airs simultaneously across dozens of similar music-format stations.
You'd think they'd have no problem going with syndicated current or encore shows, like 1970's AT-40, HoH, Time Warp,...etc to fill their (at least weekend) schedules since that's one more show that is already "in the can" so to speak, ready to go. Not to mention in the current days of computer-programmed scheduling, they already know exactly when each segment will air -- down to the millisecond.
I think it comes down to losing control of your core sound during those shows. As much as folks like us look forward to something like an AT40 replay on Classic Hits or a few deep cuts on a Time Warp with Bill St James on a Classic Rock, those are tune out factors opportunities for the "average listener". Something like Casey Kasem was appointment listening back in the 70s and 80s, and it still has a pretty significant P1 following today. But some programmers don't want to take the risk of alienating the overall listener base by changing the sound of the station to air a specialty program. By relying solely on the regular playlist, there is consistency no matter when someone may tune in. The 80s Show with Jeff Stevens may be PPM friendly enough to not feature a single song 106.5 isn't already playing, but folks tune into that station expecting a jockless presentation, and having a hosted show airing on Sunday morning was technically out of format.
That said, Time Warp is actually aired on WNCX and not on an iHeart station here in town. In fact, WNCX was one of the original affiliates when Flashback launched in 1987. But for a period when they stuck with Flashback after Matt Pinfield took over that show before switching to Time Warp, I believe Bill St. James on Sundays from 8a-10a is actually the longest running constant presence on WNCX at this point now that Bill Louis has retired.
Possibly the understatement of the year.
I know of no one who isn't frustrated (and/or alienated) by the loss of local control, Disc Jockeys, localized format/playlists and identity among current Corporate radio stations. Most are tuned in just for noise. Add in the constant barrage of E.D., hair loss, and quick rich scheme commercials...It's impossible to really listen beyond a 20 minute window.
Majic dropped the ball when they let Action Jackson go...Add in the losses of the core morning show staff, AT40, and Kat Jackson (Who was voice tracked, but still an improvement over the "Martha Quinn show".) After 25 years, I finally felt the only choice was to not even dial it in. Down to WNCX and "The Lake" - If I want to hear tolerable music.
It was actually a nice change to hear someone hosting a show on WHLK...Even though it was an out of town syndicated show which I think, was originally a Saturday night offering.
Probably the biggest reason is that these syndicated shows have a limited number of avails for local spots per hour, likely far less than the stations want to run. And in these tight advertising times, with companies doing all they can to keep advertisers with low rates, comp spots, etc., no market manager wants to hear that they can't run a spot because there's no time.
Plus with logs being created and downloaded into automation systems from distant central locations, it would take time=money for someone to create, source the audio and load a "special" format and program for these shows. So it's cheaper and less hassle just to not air them. It's not their product and doesn't enrich them anyway.
Plus with logs being created and downloaded into automation systems from distant central locations, it would take time=money for someone to create, source the audio and load a "special" format and program for these shows. So it's cheaper and less hassle just to not air them. It's not their product and doesn't enrich them anyway.
The 80s Show is primarily a Saturday night offering for iHeart Classic/Variety hits stations (and a few ACs run it as well). A few air it Sunday nights. I'm not sure why 106.5 aired it Sunday mornings.
It doesn't seem to bother the majority of iHeart Classic Hits stations that still run it.
Adult Hits and Classic Hits seem like similar formats but they're far enough apart that both can co-exist. In Los Angeles, Audacy owns both KCBS-FM "Jack-FM" and Classic Hits "K-Earth." Same for Dallas. Audacy owns "Jack-FM" KJKX and Classic Hits KLUV. In Seattle, iHeart owns "Jack-FM" KJAQ and Classic Hits KJEB.
As far as I can tell, Audacy and iHeart never say, Jack-FM is playing these songs. So our Classic Hits stations in the same city can't play this or that.
As far as I can tell, Audacy and iHeart never say, Jack-FM is playing these songs. So our Classic Hits stations in the same city can't play this or that.
As Classic Hits has gone into the 80s and beyond, the overlap between Classic Hits and Variety Hits has certainly seen significant overlap. When Jack-FM was exploding in the mid 2000s, Classic Hits was still Oldies in many markets and focusing on the 60s and early 70s.
Looking a the "Top Songs Played" for The Lake, it's entirely 90s rock tracks. But doing a similar search on most other Variety Hits stations shows much more crossover between Classic Hits and Variety Hits. You can program Variety Hits to sound almost exactly like a Classic Hits station, or you can program it to sound hardly anything like Classic Hits, and neither method is wrong. It's all about what works in the market and what else is in the market.
Looking a the "Top Songs Played" for The Lake, it's entirely 90s rock tracks. But doing a similar search on most other Variety Hits stations shows much more crossover between Classic Hits and Variety Hits. You can program Variety Hits to sound almost exactly like a Classic Hits station, or you can program it to sound hardly anything like Classic Hits, and neither method is wrong. It's all about what works in the market and what else is in the market.
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