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dcowboy7

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I will ask this as its own topic then.
I mentioned that i dont remember Z100 every playing a song alot that wasnt a hit on the chart.
Likewise dont remember them ever not playing a song that hit the top 10 on the chart.
Again going back to the era of the original run of "running up the hill" which is what started this.
Someone said im not remembering correctly so now im curious what those songs were ?
 
Very simple: Z100 (and any other large market CHR) of any time period (decades ago and today)
used and uses *local* research to determine what they should air and only use national charts for general guidance.
In fact, it is the results of what those CHRs play that make up the national charts, not the other way around.

There are such things as "regional hits" that perform better on certain stations in certain regions.
That would explain why some songs would chart higher (or lower) on Z100 (and other CHRs) as compared to national charts.
There are certain genres of music that may perform better in certain regions more than others.
For example: late 1980s freestyle dance music performed better in places like NYC and Miami than in other regions.

"Running Up That Hill" is an odd duck as a "bringback", such is the influence from soundtracks to today's "new media".
It was not much of a CHR hit the first time around (did not chart on Z100) and really only got any type of
semi-regular airplay on modern rock stations (such as WLIR Garden City and KROQ L.A.) and more adventurous
album-rock stations. (KROQ Top 106.7 of 1985: placed at #37. Was a WLIR "Screamer of the Week" in August 1985.)
I could be wrong, but I think the song placed at #102.7 on album-rocker WNEW-FM's year end list for 1985.
(In other words, the last position as the station's frequency was -and still is- 102.7.)

PS check this link for Z100 weekly surveys from 1983-1992 and year-end lists from 1983-2013
where there are many examples of titles which charted much differently locally than nationally:
 
pjc1961 said:
"Running Up That Hill" is an odd duck as a "bringback", such is the influence from soundtracks to today's "new media".
It was not much of a CHR hit the first time around (did not chart on Z100) and really only got any type of
semi-regular airplay on modern rock stations (such as WLIR Garden City and KROQ L.A.) and more adventurous
album-rock stations. (KROQ Top 106.7 of 1985: placed at #37. Was a WLIR "Screamer of the Week" in August 1985.)
I could be wrong, but I think the song placed at #102.7 on album-rocker WNEW-FM's year end list for 1985.
(In other words, the last position as the station's frequency was -and still is- 102.7.)
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And remember, those station year-end lists were significantly arbitrary.

Even those weekly charts done in the 50's, 60's and 70's involved perhaps 50% requests and sales and the like and 50% the station's "feel" for the song.
 
As you've already been told, you're trying to turn a marketing phrase into some kind of factual basis for something.

It's like McDonald's saying they have the "world's best fries" means there are actually no better fries in the world.
 
But like i said i dont ever remember them not playing a song that hit the top 10.
& looking at those lists all their top songs were hits on the chart.
Someone said i was remembering wrong....so what am i remembering wrong ??
 
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They started playing Kate Bush's Running šŸƒā€ā™€ļø up that Hill ā›°ļø. Which is great that an older song gets a 2nd chance. Good for Kate! šŸ‘
 
dcowboy7 said:
But like i said i dont ever remember them not playing a song that hit the top 10.
& looking at those lists all their top songs were hits on the chart.
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There's a long list of songs in the Top 30 that they're not playing, starting with The Weekend "Out Of Time" and Beyonce "Break My Soul." I'm not basing this on memory. I'm looking at Mediabase.
 
TheBigA said:
There's a long list of songs in the Top 30 that they're not playing, starting with The Weekend "Out Of Time" and Beyonce "Break My Soul." I'm not basing this on memory. I'm looking at Mediabase.
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I didnt say they played all top 30 songs that wasnt the question.
"Out of time" is only #21 on the billboard airplay chart & its kinda stalling out already.
"Break my soul" just debuted #28 & should be around #21 next wk being the biggest spin gainer so theyll be playing it alot soon if it keeps this up.
 
dcowboy7 said:
I didnt say they played all top 30 songs that wasnt the question.
"Out of time" is only #21 on the billboard airplay chart & its kinda stalling out already.
"Break my soul" just debuted #28 & should be around #21 next wk being the biggest spin gainer so theyll be playing it alot soon if it keeps this up.
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Again: radio stations seldom if ever use the Billboard charts. They do not reflect radio well, and are very generalized.

We look at BDS or MediaBase for format and individual station airplay. We can build there our own custom list of stations to monitor, too. So, if we are in Macon, we can look at Tallahasse, Mobile, Savannah, Jacksonville but not Buffalo and Grand Rapids.

BDS and MediaBase also show streams, although we get no demos so we can't tell who is streaming.

And we do our own research... "callout" if we play currents.
 
There is a network effect going on here. Z100 is both important in its own right as the most popular CHR station in Market #1, but also influential with smaller market PDs, who may not have access to the same info as iHeart.

However, with the emergence of the three major radio groups, with semi-centralized programming and research, that influence is probably less now than it was 10-20 years ago.
 
DavidEduardo said:
BDS and MediaBase also show streams, although we get no demos so we can't tell who is streaming.
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Are you sure? I looked at the list of stations monitored by Mediabase, and the only streams they list are either broadcast streams or TuneIn. Sirius reports, but not Pandora. Music Choice reports but I wouldn't call them a streamer.
 
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