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Carly Simon is classic rock?

kevtronics said:
Except for the tribute album, "If I Were a Carpenter", featuring covers of their songs performed by artists and groups like Sonic Youth, the Cranberries, and 4 Non Blondes.
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Foo Fighter's (a real rock band) did a tribute to the Bee Gees. That doesn't turn back the clock to make Bee Gee's rock.
 
Kelly A said:
No, nothing from the Carpenters would be classified as any form of rock. See? A straight and simple answer without a bunch of cutesy YouTube links attached.
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Do you consider one "a bunch"?

I had actually answered your question hours before--in post 321:

michael hagerty said:
"Goodbye To Love" was from Carpenters' fourth album, was their tenth single, all but two of which had gone top five and Richard Carpenter wanted to rebel against the image that they had that---was pretty much accurate. They weren't a rock band, had never done anything like this before, and never did again.
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Kelly A said:
I'd describe it more as an 'old guy psychedelic rabbit hole'.
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That's just it. He's several years younger than I am but he leaves me in awe every time! I understand it. It's his upbringing but still... This isn't really personal and I know it sounds petty. Speaking of a rabbit hole, how do I get out of this? o_O
 
kevtronics said:
Except for the tribute album, "If I Were a Carpenter", featuring covers of their songs performed by artists and groups like Sonic Youth, the Cranberries, and 4 Non Blondes.
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I see that Kelly said, "nothing from the Carpenters". A tribute album is not "from" them. o_O
 
Nothing to add right now. Just pushing this thread another post nearer to No. 400 -- which, admit it, will be about 380 posts more than anyone here would have believed it would spawn at its inception.
 
semoochie said:
Every time I read these things, I get the distinct impression that I've gone over the rainbow! :unsure:

The Carpenters were massively popular(with teens)in the '70s. It wasn't until later that they fell out of favor and I really don't know why. I've always loved their music and still do! I had a physical reaction when Karen died! I was having lunch with a friend and he asked me what was wrong!
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A few folks felt they were too "politically conservative" and apparently felt guilty appreciating their talent.
 
michael hagerty said:
If the music didn't get ya, this photo would...

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It depends on when the photo was taken. If it was before 1973, there was no Watergate scandal and the only other thing affecting us was that we were still in Vietnam. The vast majority voted for Nixon in '72 but most of us were too young to vote and the ones who weren't didn't make up a large enough constituency to make a difference! Nixon said he had a secret plan to end the war and apparently not doing so within his first four years wasn't enough incentive for voters to go with McGovern and it didn't help matters that the latter had problems with his original running mate.
 
semoochie said:
It depends on when the photo was taken. If it was before 1973, there was no Watergate scandal and the only other thing affecting us was that we were still in Vietnam. The vast majority voted for Nixon in '72 but most of us were too young to vote and the ones who weren't didn't make up a large enough constituency to make a difference! Nixon said he had a secret plan to end the war and apparently not doing so within his first four years wasn't enough incentive for voters to go with McGovern and it didn't help matters that the latter had problems with his original running mate.
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Semoochie:

Nixon's issues didn't begin with Watergate or even the war. He won in 1968 by a margin of 0.7% of the popular vote, so there was a significant chunk of the population unhappy with the result. In fact, because it was a three-way race with George Wallace getting 9.9 million votes, more people voted for a candidate other than Richard Nixon. He won election with 43.4% of the popular vote.

The Carpenters photo above was taken August 1, 1972, during Nixon's re-election campaign and after the Watergate break-in. By that point, The Washington Post had been reporting on ties between the Watergate break-in and the Committee to Re-Elect the President for six weeks.

On the morning the photo was taken, the Post published a story directly linking money in one of the burglar's accounts to a check from the Nixon campaign.

The Carpenters returned to the White House and performed for Nixon on May 1, 1973---three months after the Senate committee began its investigations and two days after the Post broke the story that three top Nixon aides led the cover-up.

Not saying any of that was necessarily their fault, but despite the landslide election of 1972, a lot of people---especially young people---didn't like Nixon.
 
This may settle some arguments and doubts about what artists and songs rock stations played in the 70's. www.worldradiohistory.com just added over 150 issues of "Walrus!" which was a 70's and early 80's "tip sheet" / magazine for rock / AOR / album rock / progressive rock stations of that era. It has both airplay and sales listings.

WALRUS! US Music and Radio Tip Sheet from 1969 to early '80s

Walrus! (with an exclamation point) was a rock music radio "tip sheet" publications issued from 1969 to the early 80's
worldradiohistory.com

The issues are searchable, so you can enter "Carly Simon" and see all 774 occurrences of that name in the issues now available for reading and download.
 
michael hagerty said:
Semoochie:

Nixon's issues didn't begin with Watergate or even the war. He won in 1968 by a margin of 0.7% of the popular vote, so there was a significant chunk of the population unhappy with the result. In fact, because it was a three-way race with George Wallace getting 9.9 million votes, more people voted for a candidate other than Richard Nixon. He won election with 43.4% of the popular vote.

The Carpenters photo above was taken August 1, 1972, during Nixon's re-election campaign and after the Watergate break-in. By that point, The Washington Post had been reporting on ties between the Watergate break-in and the Committee to Re-Elect the President for six weeks.

On the morning the photo was taken, the Post published a story directly linking money in one of the burglar's accounts to a check from the Nixon campaign.

The Carpenters returned to the White House and performed for Nixon on May 1, 1973---three months after the Senate committee began its investigations and two days after the Post broke the story that three top Nixon aides led the cover-up.

Not saying any of that was necessarily their fault, but despite the landslide election of 1972, a lot of people---especially young people---didn't like Nixon.
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Yes, Wallace split the democratic vote. If he hadn't been there, Hubert Humphrey probably would've won and things might have been different. You have to wonder though, since Humphrey seemed to be such a nice guy, if he may have run into the same problems as Jimmy Carter, not being able to get things done because of a lack of cooperation from congress.

I think you have a point about The Carpenters. I don't remember anything about the photoshoot. It's conceivable that not enough people knew about it to affect their careers in a negative way. This doesn't change the way I feel about them. It's also possible that they didn't know anything about Watergate. It took awhile for the public to catch on after The Washington Post began to print the articles and The Post was an also-ran paper. The Washington Star was the main one before Watergate.
 
What tanked the Carpenters' career wasn't a photo with Nixon in 1972 -- it was their 1977 "Passage" album. Richard didn't write any of the songs, Karen didn't play drums, and none of the singles from it reached the Top 30.

 
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