After seeing WOW referred to multiple times in this thread I decided to try and listen. Got this message when I tried to stream it “This station is not streaming to your geographic area at the moment.” I’d expect to see this with an station from another country (or if a sports broadcast can’t be broadcast outside of their area) but not for music programming from another state in this country.
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Music streaming royalties are very expensive. Given this station isn't getting sellable demos, they lose less money by limiting the stream.
BTW this is not uncommon for oldies stations. WRME in Chicago doesn't stream either, although MeFM streams via an Audacy station in Minneapolis.
ON an HD-2?
Noncommercial radio is the perfect venue for oldies. I volunteer at an LPFM. However, our area has a “True Oldies Channel” affiliate (WVAM at 1450 AM, along with translators at 98.1 and 107.9.)
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Hispanics in the US tend to be younger than the general population (by over a decade, on average) and are forming brand preferences. They are a primary target for advertisers of all kinds.
60's oldies attracts people in their 70's and older. Advertisers don't seek them as they have their purchase preferences formed long ago.
sorry, you missed that my tongue was firmly in cheek
There are a number of internet only stations playing 50s 60s oldies with much better sound than small AM stations. Philly Gold Radio is patterned after the old WPGR with some of the old WPGR jocks, Jimmy Dee, Andy Volvo & Jimmy Cannonball Parsons live afternoons, Jerry Blavat & Ron Cade’s Elvis show. Crown Sounds Radio plays a lot of Philadelphia favorites & doo wop. Sounds of Philly Radio plays a variety of oldies. All 24/7.
Wow, KFXM played
"All I Wanna Do"
"Stayaway from Heaven"
"Sweet, Judy Blue Eyes"
Next Elvis?
50s-90s Oldies?
This is what I'd call a wide variety oldies format, not a mass appeal one.
and at least 3 songs in a row I do not know.
no imaging either.
CCR "Down ON the Bayou"
Ok yeah this is not your typical Oldies station one bit.
"All I Wanna Do"
"Stayaway from Heaven"
"Sweet, Judy Blue Eyes"
Next Elvis?
50s-90s Oldies?
This is what I'd call a wide variety oldies format, not a mass appeal one.
and at least 3 songs in a row I do not know.
no imaging either.
CCR "Down ON the Bayou"
Ok yeah this is not your typical Oldies station one bit.
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Oh yeah classic rock or hits? sure. but Oldies stations?
Then again, classic hits is the new oldies since if you think about it, the '80s started 42 years ago.
Just like in 1992, 1952 was 40 years ago.
So when we think of '90s on classic hits stations today, that's not that far out of the relm of late '50s/'60s oldies in 1992.
Cause the people that were 40 in 1992 remember some of that as kids.
The difference is that then it was called Oldies, and classic hits sounds more sexy as a name, maybe ?
then again, I also don't see normal listeners saying "I listen to the classic hits station!"
Then again, classic hits is the new oldies since if you think about it, the '80s started 42 years ago.
Just like in 1992, 1952 was 40 years ago.
So when we think of '90s on classic hits stations today, that's not that far out of the relm of late '50s/'60s oldies in 1992.
Cause the people that were 40 in 1992 remember some of that as kids.
The difference is that then it was called Oldies, and classic hits sounds more sexy as a name, maybe ?
then again, I also don't see normal listeners saying "I listen to the classic hits station!"
Ah! Point taken!
Suite: Judy Blue Eyes got played on some oldies stations before the transition to classic hits, just as Doors hits did. There was a single edit available for the oldies/classic hits stations, cutting a lot from the middle of the song. The Led Zeppelin and CCR songs were definitely classic rock only. Now, if you meant Down on the Corner instead of Born on the Bayou, then you are talking about another song that was an oldies/classic rock double duty song.
Sorry for messing up the formatting on my original post, still trying to figure out what went wrong and too late now to fix it.
everyone says the demo for oldies is too old and advertiser unfriendly, but what if young people who never heard this music enjoy it and start listening to 50s, 60s and 70s music, then would that change things. When my parents had WIBG, WPEN and WIP on the radio in the 60s, I was still not in my teens yet, never heard this old music but loved it. When CAU-FM launched in 1970 I was 17 never heard many of their cuts but enjoyed them and kept them tuned in because I hated the new stuff out back then, so why cant the youth of today listen to the great music back then. It would be a refreshing change from the drek out nowadays, if there was an outlet for them. I witness many young people listening to older music and enjoying it... does this make any sense.
Yes it does....now you only need to convince the people that pay the bills that it makes sense.
In answer to the last sentence of that rant, no, because outliers are not the norm. You being an outlier doesn’t make that remotely universal (and that’s assuming any bit of that is true). The “young people” aren’t going to listen to it. You can keep on being delusional, but it ain’t happening.
This is definitely a "when pigs fly" question.
You had a unique experience of hearing and liking your parent's music. Most young people like the music of their own generation, and reject the "old fart's" music.
So there are very few young people who will like Fats Domino and Danny & The Juniors and all the other songs that many of those who grew up in the 50's and 60's loved.
Except that today's followers of hip-hop and current pop don't think it is "drek". They think that The Supremes and the BeeGees are drek.
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Yes, if Petula Clark and Elvis had a sudden career revival, particularly among people in their 20s, 30s and 40s, that would change things. It ain't gonna happen, but it would change things.
Because most people who are in their 20s, 30s and 40s today do not like the music you like. Many of them will be totally unfamiliar with it. For someone who is 25 now, the 1960s are not even their parents' music, it is their grandparents' music.
I'm around 40, and will testify that I have no interest in any British invasion music, or Bob Dylan, or Sonny & Cher. I have no interest in anything that references the Vietnam War, despite hearing a lot of "Okie from Muskogee" growing up.
Similarly to you, I inherited some of my music preferences from my parents. We had a lot of MOR records, and country records that my parents bought before I was born. I like artists including Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, and Peter Paul & Mary, largely because my parents or grandparents liked them.
But that's far from universal. My mom was a huge Elvis fan, but I never got into his music.
That attitude isn't new. In a Facebook group, someone posted an ad from WHIO (AM), Dayton, from the mid-60s. WHIO was very MOR with full service and talk elements. The ad shows a guy and a girl in graduation gowns, and went on to explain that these new graduates would soon be listeners to WHIO. So long, Beatles and Dave Clark 5, hello Sinatra and Bennett just like that. I knew General Managers who thought that way.
Even when Tony Bennett appeared on MTV, The Simpsons, and SCTV and had a bit of a revival with younger folks in the 90s, as far as I know, he wasn't added to CHR playlists.
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