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Songs that no longer fit the format?

Usually, in both Selector or MusicMaster, songs will be rotated in and out. When cycled in, they will sometimes play at least once per station-created time period (might be two, three, four hour slices of the day) and then rest again. But usually they will stay in very light rotation for a period of weeks or even months.

Spaced resting is often done with very secondary songs by core artists, too; each of several cuts is packaged as if it were one song, and then each time the packet plays, it is a different one of two, three or even more cuts.
Looking forward to the day when AI will totally run and program stations to reach the demographics the Master AI has determined need what "programming."

It's a Beautiful World !!
 
AI is a myth.
No, AI is real.

I'm currently serving as Vice President for Western Automotive Journalists, the Northern California guild for automotive writers. For most of the last decade, we and the AutoTech Council co-sponsored a daylong event every year called "Silicon Valley Re-Invents the Wheel." I attended from 2015 on (COVID caused the cancellation of the 2020 and 2021 events).

At the 2015 event, the scarily smart people involved in autonomous vehicles told us in the main seminar that AI would allow them to bring Level 5 autonomous vehicles to market by 2020 and had a solid presentation as to just how AI could contribute more and better data and extrapolate it far more quickly.

At the 2016 event, they pushed that estimate back to 2023. They had underestimated the sheer volume of data that employing AI would create.

At the 2017 event, the timeline fell back further to 2025. The data was multiplying exponentially. The challenge was processing.

At the 2018 event, it became "2027". Again, exponential multiplication of data.

Finally, at 2019, we were told "2030 at the absolute earliest---and maybe never."

What happened? Simply, AI kept learning---revealing that there were far more variables in sun angle, road surface, weather patterns, animal behavior and dozens of other factors than humans could dream up.

Instead of a process of elimination ("Okay, cross that one off the list"), AI continued to produce additional reams of data...and that opened the eyes of the tech companies involved as well as the automakers they'd partnered with (Tesla has chosen to go it alone) to the reality that there's enormous liability involved in putting that tech on the road with variables still undetermined.
 
No, AI is real.

I'm currently serving as Vice President for Western Automotive Journalists, the Northern California guild for automotive writers. For most of the last decade, we and the AutoTech Council co-sponsored a daylong event every year called "Silicon Valley Re-Invents the Wheel." I attended from 2015 on (COVID caused the cancellation of the 2020 and 2021 events).

At the 2015 event, the scarily smart people involved in autonomous vehicles told us in the main seminar that AI would allow them to bring Level 5 autonomous vehicles to market by 2020 and had a solid presentation as to just how AI could contribute more and better data and extrapolate it far more quickly.

At the 2016 event, they pushed that estimate back to 2023. They had underestimated the sheer volume of data that employing AI would create.

At the 2017 event, the timeline fell back further to 2025. The data was multiplying exponentially. The challenge was processing.

At the 2018 event, it became "2027". Again, exponential multiplication of data.

Finally, at 2019, we were told "2030 at the absolute earliest---and maybe never."

What happened? Simply, AI kept learning---revealing that there were far more variables in sun angle, road surface, weather patterns, animal behavior and dozens of other factors than humans could dream up.

Instead of a process of elimination ("Okay, cross that one off the list"), AI continued to produce additional reams of data...and that opened the eyes of the tech companies involved as well as the automakers they'd partnered with (Tesla has chosen to go it alone) to the reality that there's enormous liability involved in putting that tech on the road with variables still undetermined.
Those were discovered by humans programming the vehicle's reaction, not 'artificial' by any means.

To properly create a substitute human brain is going to be quite impossible. Every possible situation has to be properly evaluated and preprogrammed into the 'AI' mechanism. It takes a human 20+ years to accumulate this type of knowledge and the interpretations have to be pin point exact. AI 'machine' cannot duplicate this type of performance.

Try thinking of the multitude of individual steps to program a machine to walk out of your house and enter your car. Now imagine that any misstep would be dangerous or fatal. You'd have to kill all the lawyers to make something like this possible.

Now imagine doing this simple task - something a 3 or 4 year old can already do.
 
Those were discovered by humans programming the vehicle's reaction, not 'artificial' by any means.

To properly create a substitute human brain is going to be quite impossible. Every possible situation has to be properly evaluated and preprogrammed into the 'AI' mechanism. It takes a human 20+ years to accumulate this type of knowledge and the interpretations have to be pin point exact. AI 'machine' cannot duplicate this type of performance.

Try thinking of the multitude of individual steps to program a machine to walk out of your house and enter your car. Now imagine that any misstep would be dangerous or fatal. You'd have to kill all the lawyers to make something like this possible.

Now imagine doing this simple task - something a 3 or 4 year old can already do.
No. The humans didn’t know what to look for. They thought they did, but didn’t. It took AI to tell them their human intelligence was flawed.

No human “discovered” anything other than how much they did not know and how wildly optimistic their estimates of a timetable for Level 5 autonomy was.

You misunderstand AI (which may be why you consider it a myth). It does not perform tasks. It acquires knowledge at rates faster than anything else in existence, allowing humans in different fields to put that rapidly-gained knowledge to use.
 
No. The humans didn’t know what to look for. They thought they did, but didn’t. It took AI to tell them their human intelligence was flawed.
No, it was the time honored exercise of trial by error/omission. You could also call it the discovery of unintended consequences.

AI is baloney!
You misunderstand AI (which may be why you consider it a myth). It does not perform tasks. It acquires knowledge at rates faster than anything else in existence, allowing humans in different fields to put that rapidly-gained knowledge to use.
And that 'knowledge' is put to doing tasks. You think it is just being ignored? AI supposedly collects billions of data on weather but what good is it without doing something useful with it? AI doesn't know how to use it any more than an Internet scanner knows what to do with your profile.
 
No, it was the time honored exercise of trial by error/omission. You could also call it the discovery of unintended consequences.

AI is baloney!

And that 'knowledge' is put to doing tasks. You think it is just being ignored? AI supposedly collects billions of data on weather but what good is it without doing something useful with it? AI doesn't know how to use it any more than an Internet scanner knows what to do with your profile.
It certainly can’t dig itself a hole the way some humans can.
 
I don’t think I’ve heard any of these songs on my classic hits station in San Antonio for quite a few years now. I hear Fleetwood Mac every once in a while, and they used to be really heavy on Elton John and now I think they only play Bennie & the Jets.

Some songs I can think of that no longer fit the format and that I rarely hear anymore or should be gone by now.

Sara- Hall & Oates
Rich Girl- Hall & Oates
Always & Forever- Heatwave
The Logical Song- Supertramp
Pretty much anything Disco
Anything by Barry White
Soft Rock from the 70’s
Yacht Rock from the late 70’s & early 80’s
Anything from the Thriller album by Michael Jackson - aside from Billie Jean & maybe Beat It, everything else from that album like Wannabe Starting Something & PYT has been burned to a crisp, played to death, resurrected and then played to death again.
New Wave music - starting to sound very dated.
Super Freak- Rick James

Personally I’d like to maybe see disco replaced by new jack swing music, house music and R&B from the late 80’s & early 90’s. That style of music was really popular here back in those days. For San Antonio’s KONO 101.1 classic hits they are really heavy on music from 1980-1985. They play a few select hits from 1986-1988 but they haven’t even touched most of the top 40 from those decades. The station then skips over 1989 entirely except for Free Falling & Straight Up for Paula Abdul. Then there’s a very small selection of 1990’s music they play. Vanilla Ice, NSYNC, Enrique Iglesias, TLC, Boyz II Men, Mariah Carey, but no 90’s rock.
 
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Yacht Rock from the late 70’s & early 80’s
Really? Yacht Rock is big these days. SiriusXM has a year-round channel dedicated to it, and puts it on a lower channel position during the summer. I've heard Variety Hits ("Jack FM"-type) stations do Yacht Rock weekends.

This article mentions its popularity with younger people (in their 30s, too young to remember most of the music from when it was new):

New Wave music - starting to sound very dated.
Kate Bush proves otherwise.
 
Kate Bush proves otherwise.

I don't expect this TV-driven return to radio for this song to spark a New Wave revival. I find it amazing how people are obsessing about "Running Up That Hill" and what it says about popular tastes in music, the future of radio formats, etc. To me, it's just another brief return to public consciousness for a song, singer and/or style with little connection to current popular tastes. We've seen this before. Think "Winchester Cathedral" in the '60s or "Unchained Melody" in the '90s.
 
It certainly can’t dig itself a hole the way some humans can.
Oh yes it can. And the best example is no further away than your daily news outlet. Virtually every week there is another example of a 'supposed' AI vehicle going amuk in some manner because it didn't have programmed experience, emotion, relational decision making or the proper human sensitivity.

Of course, there is also the misuse of the technology to assume there is human backup but we all know how well that works.
 
I don't expect this TV-driven return to radio for this song to spark a New Wave revival. I find it amazing how people are obsessing about "Running Up That Hill" and what it says about popular tastes in music, the future of radio formats, etc. To me, it's just another brief return to public consciousness for a song, singer and/or style with little connection to current popular tastes. We've seen this before. Think "Winchester Cathedral" in the '60s or "Unchained Melody" in the '90s.
Just heard "Winchester Cathedral" on WERT, though it's an entirely different format.
 
I don't expect this TV-driven return to radio for this song to spark a New Wave revival. I find it amazing how people are obsessing about "Running Up That Hill" and what it says about popular tastes in music, the future of radio formats, etc. To me, it's just another brief return to public consciousness for a song, singer and/or style with little connection to current popular tastes. We've seen this before. Think "Winchester Cathedral" in the '60s or "Unchained Melody" in the '90s.
Heard it in McDonald's today. Weird.
 
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