KEGL was a fun rock station to listen to in the 90s. I liked the imaging with the throaty voice “97-1 The E-agle. It would be awesome if they could bring that imaging back and have good solid entertaining airstaff to back it up—a 90s-today rock format with a focus on 90s-00s, more new stuff in the evening and overnight. Also, it wouldn’t hurt to start playing Pantera again. Lol.
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Yet *ANOTHER* terrible move by the Eagle
- Thread starter Rudy Fitzneris
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My local Active Rock station features current music by artists like Shinedown, Volbeat, Ghost, Wolfgang Van Halen, The Pretty Reckless and Bad Wolves. The station also plays tried and true songs by Metallica, Linkin Park, Evanescence, and Foo Fighters. Artists like Aerosmith and Foreigner are played on their sister Classic Rock station. The two stations are programmed to complement each other and they pretty much work together as one.
Well, we had some darn good music and we had ourselves one heck of a party!! I'm a little too young to have experienced the Beatles and the British Invasion, but I was right there for the 80s and MTV and Miami Vice, as well as the 90s and Grunge. Great times!!!
In the southern U.S., AOR included Southern Rock acts like The Allman Brothers, Lynard Skynard and Molly Hatchett. I don't know if they were as popular everywhere.
I was doing Top 40 in the mid to late 60's, right at the start of the British Invasion and during the best Motown years. . And was in the building at Y-100 in Miami when Miami Vice began and some of the Y-100 jocks actually had bit parts in the show. Also great years, and Miami was a fun radio market.
When I did "rock 40" on WERC-FM in Birmingham, we played a lot of the stuff from Macon. It worked well enough that our FM caused Rick Dees to leave WSGN AM and move to Memphis where he made friends with a duck...
Right. I was referring to data for the city itself.
Of course, radio stations serve markets, not political boundaries. We often find concentrations of Hispanic groups in "suburbs" rather than the central city... such as Hialeah in the Miami are or Huntington Park or Santa Ana in the LA area.
And in the Houston area, there are so many people from Venezuela in Katy, they now call it "Katyzuela".
Hey Rudy, you know Keith Kramer is back in Dallas and was talking about trying to get back on the Eagle but he is shaking his head as to what’s going on. Of course he and Twitch did the infamous Britney Spears rumor is dead back in 2000.. I was CE of the Eagle and KDMX then..
The Voice who did the imaging of the eagle in the late 90s and early 2000s is Chris Duffy..He’s now in Chicago, until recently was the voice of WGN radio, now out in his own and doing quite well.. damn good production!! And watching him work the board and all the equipment with only one hand because his right arm didn’t grow past the elbow due to a birth defect, it’s freaking awesome..(at the Eagle, he often used the on air moniker Stumpy)
Pierre Robert...
A lot of these threads about these rock/alternative stations - be it KROQ, KEGL, WNYL, etc - are a great example of the reason rock is in the state it’s in on terrestrial radio.
There is very little consensus or agreement among the audience. How can the stations program to that? You don’t see that with country. You don’t see it with hip hop. You do something that may please one listener, you piss off the other. I’d hate to be a rock or alternative PD.
There is very little consensus or agreement among the audience. How can the stations program to that? You don’t see that with country. You don’t see it with hip hop. You do something that may please one listener, you piss off the other. I’d hate to be a rock or alternative PD.
The challenges with rock these days are many (demographic changes, listener taste changes, a down cycle of music to name a few).
In 1982, 99.5 KISS here in San Antonio was a very popular AOR station; they were also
the de facto Classic Rock station, New Wave or Alternative station and to a degree the oldies station. Back then with fewer FM’s, and18-34 male demographic that was rock geared, they could cobble a wide range of rock and be successful.
Over time the format fragmented and the genres became quite different. The overlap in the late 90’s and early 2000’s of Alternative and Active eventually led (in most markets) to one of the stations going away and the winner choosing the Alternative route or Active Route.
Alternative shifted gears to a more pop friendly approach which alienated the listeners who favored harder rock; so with a few exceptions, the Alternative stations began deemphasizing the rock sound and even the word rock.
Classic Rock has maintained because of the quality of the music and the era that the music was so much a part of.
While (personal opinion interjected here) the Active Rock product has been better in the last year, it has regardless become a niche format as opposed to a mass appeal format. Alternative and Active can coexist, but one has to tread carefully (KPNT is a great example).
Trying to program a fragment of a fragment and please a declining audience is tough.
Very well put. I’m 30 and I’ll admit in my social circle, the rock people I know listen to is alt from the 90s or classic rock. Hip hop and EDM variants stole a lot of the younger white males that once made rock what it was, although this demographic DOES have an appreciation for classic rock and older alternative. New rock material has become more of a niche genre that is a heavy lift on a commercial FM signal.
What’s left of rock listeners is what we see here. Very fragmented and each person has their own idea of how rock radio should sound or how they want it to sound. This is why stations keep going back to the old stuff. That’s all that everyone can agree on it seems. With streaming and demographic preference changes, I don’t see rock coming back as a radio format other than classic rock or gold leaning alternative. The rock listeners have already found they can hear what they want on streaming and many don’t have the tolerance that pop, country or hip hop listeners may to sit through a song they don’t like to hear one they do. They’re very engaged. Not a bad thing, but it doesn’t make for practical radio. Non-Alt Rock stations that do well that play new music are either heritage stations or are heavy on personality. People aren’t there for just the music.
What’s left of rock listeners is what we see here. Very fragmented and each person has their own idea of how rock radio should sound or how they want it to sound. This is why stations keep going back to the old stuff. That’s all that everyone can agree on it seems. With streaming and demographic preference changes, I don’t see rock coming back as a radio format other than classic rock or gold leaning alternative. The rock listeners have already found they can hear what they want on streaming and many don’t have the tolerance that pop, country or hip hop listeners may to sit through a song they don’t like to hear one they do. They’re very engaged. Not a bad thing, but it doesn’t make for practical radio. Non-Alt Rock stations that do well that play new music are either heritage stations or are heavy on personality. People aren’t there for just the music.
Primarily because the investment isn't there from labels to build artists and music that will attract a mass audience. They are satisfied with the idea that if they superserve their primary fans, they can make a living from that. Just keep releasing music, keep touring, keep providing exclusives for your most passionate fans, and that's good enough. No need to cultivate a radio relationship since the core fans don't listen anyway. So the radio stations that may have once attracted that audience have to come up with something other than music to reach them. It's not just a Dallas thing. Although Dallas seems to be coming to this a bit later than other cities.
do you know why labels won’t invest? Are they cash strapped? It seems like such an easy fix
You actually do see that with country. There are always listeners who don't like the way the genre is going at any given time. It's not traditional enough. It's not female-friendly enough. It's too much like rock. It's too much like pop. It needs something new and different.
The difference between country radio and rock radio is that Nashville, and country radio, always respond to the winds of change and incorporates enough of the new artists and new sounds into current playlists to bring some dissatisfied listeners back and even attract listeners from other genres without driving too many of the listeners who were satisfied with the status quo away. Rock radio, starting in the late '80s, failed to make any adjustments, and now it's probably too late.
Not true. They're flush with money.
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And even many successful classic rock stations are more "pop rock" friendly. Just look at WAXQ, KZPS, or WDRC. They sound like the Cox-owned classic hits stations (such as WSRV), at times.
Also, even if some classic rock stations move into the 2000s, "emo" is barely touched. I have a feeling "emo" music may alienate the more moneyed Gen X or Boomer listeners.
Also, even if some classic rock stations move into the 2000s, "emo" is barely touched. I have a feeling "emo" music may alienate the more moneyed Gen X or Boomer listeners.
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