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Hurricane Ian coverage

landtuna said:
Understanding the unusual severity of this hurricane I will repost an earlier opinion that the entire State of Florida should be evacuated and the peninsula turned into a nature refuge. Either that or severely limit the type of construction and number of permanent dwellings that can be rebuilt. Boat, aircraft and vehicle owners who leave their property at risk, although forewarned, should lose insurance coverage.
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In that case, evacuate coastal GA, SC, NC and VA at least as well as every place 100 miles from the Gulf of Mexico in FL, AL, MS, LA and Texas. And do Puerto Rico and the USVI in their entirety while you are at it as they are also in the US and part of the hurricane zone. And Hawaii and Somoa as well.

And with recent events with Eastern Pacific hurricanes, depopulate all of Southern California up to Santa Barbara and inland all the way to Palm Springs.

And since much of CA, OR, WA, NV and UT are subject to quakes, empty them too. Oh, and we are overdue for a repeat of the 1812 New Madrid quakes in SE Missouri, so let's evacuate St Louis and Memphis and all the surrounding area.

When that is done, lets grant foreign aid to all the Lesser and Greater Antilles, Jamaica, and coastal Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Belize, Panama, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. To be safe, add in Venezuela and Coastal Colombia as well as the Netherlands Antilles.
 
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Hey Charlie Tuna -- Climate Change and ocean rise may grant your wish about Florida one day. Do you consider the Sanibel Causeway to be a "cheap" structure? It was severely damaged along with many other structures.

Fires, Floods, Drought, Severe Heat, etc.. are making many areas of the planet uninhabitable. Let us know when you find the safe harbour from weather calamities...
 
Sheesh! If that's the case, Florida should have been closed down in the 60s, if not even earlier. Maybe never settled at all. I can remember the old man driving around after a hurricane had zipped through the area and the amount of destroyed signs, downed power lines, poles, etc. stick with me to this day. The most incredible thing was going down to the beach and seeing sand that had been washed onshore to the height of two story houses and flood surge that had pushed boats, docks, basically anything on water or in the canals criss-crossing the county being pushed 800 feet on shore from where their were last anchored. I can even remember when Camille took a wobble and appeared to be turning toward Tampa Bay when everyone freaked and the old man was gonna send us all to Orlando to stay with our grandma. Luckily [for us, not for the people where it eventually landed] it resumed course towards the north. [OK, Old Fart mode OFF.]
 
Nearly every area of the country has hazards. Earthquakes, flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, etc. I once heard it said that no one should be permitted to build homes along some sections of the larger rivers like the Mississippi because even though it doesn't make national headlines, every several years the rivers swell out of their banks and flood a bunch of houses and businesses. It costs insurance companies a ton to gut some of those structures, clear all the mud out, do mold remediation and replace floors, interior walls, carpets and contents...But just like the residents of FL accept a certain level of risk to live in some of the most beautiful spots in the country, Californians also stay put regardless of quick moving wildfires and unpredictable earthquakes. People in the midwest stick around regardless of some flooding in the valleys and the possibility of tornadoes...The list goes on.
 
Does anyone know of all the SW Florida radio stations were knocked off the air? If so, then I'm guessing residents had to likely rely on out-of-market signals down there such as 102.5 WHPT and 107.9 WSRZ to get information.
 
There's no way mobile homes could have survived 150-mph winds and 10 ft storm surge. Thus, devastation in trailer parks around Fort Myers and Charlotte County. Many HOMES in FL/LA/MS/etc. on the other hand are built to hurricane resistance, but doesn't it only go to a certain 'category' of storm?

I have heard that multiple rides have been damaged or flooded at Universal. Not sure about WDW. Hopefully, Epcot is OK too.
 
landtuna said:
I just finished watching the evening ABC national news. What a bunch of baloney! Endless scenes of cheap and mobile homes being destroyed by wind and water. What did people living in those expect when hurricane force winds came a calling? And why did people who had the ability to evacuate but expect putting First Responders at risk to come get them? And why does ABC think this is 'news'?

The takeaway for me is that a lot of irresponsible people buy a place on the beach then watch it wash away every several years while expecting their insurance companies to bail them out (to rebuild no doubt).

Understanding the unusual severity of this hurricane I will repost an earlier opinion that the entire State of Florida should be evacuated and the peninsula turned into a nature refuge.
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Well, Arizona has a bunch of critters in it that obviously don't want you or any other human being there and can make life miserable for humans at any opportunity, specifically scorpions and snakes. Even the best-known plants in Arizona will cause you pain if you so much as touch them. I say evacuate the entire state and turn it into a refuge for poisonous, stinging, biting and prickly fauna and flora.
 
Mikey Radio said:
Nearly every area of the country has hazards. Earthquakes, flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, fires, etc. I once heard it said that no one should be permitted to build homes along some sections of the larger rivers like the Mississippi because even though it doesn't make national headlines, every several years the rivers swell out of their banks and flood a bunch of houses and businesses. It costs insurance companies a ton to gut some of those structures, clear all the mud out, do mold remediation and replace floors, interior walls, carpets and contents...But just like the residents of FL accept a certain level of risk to live in some of the most beautiful spots in the country, Californians also stay put regardless of quick moving wildfires and unpredictable earthquakes. People in the midwest stick around regardless of some flooding in the valleys and the possibility of tornadoes...The list goes on.
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True and also no part of the earth is safe harbor note all we can do is find a place where the risk is lower for some disasters but then again no risks can be eliminated completely.
 
WOSN and WJKD came back on yesterday....(Vero Beach area)

WONQ - 1030 - Oviedo-Orlando - La Grande has been off since yesterday

My sister reports no power or cell phone in Port Orange (Daytona Beach area)

kw-Melbourne
 
I guess I wonder about the “ I moved to Florida for the absolute freedom to spread Covid“ crowd and how many of them stayed behind because mah freedom. It is true that there’s no place absolutely safe from natural disasters. (I have no idea why my phone is typing in italics)
 
The path of Ian kept changing. First we thought it might hit the north coast of Florida. Then it was Tampa. By the time we knew it would come in at Sanibel and Cape Coral, it was too late to flee far. And on top of that we have old people who can no longer drive.

My family owned several houses in Cape Coral. All of us were going to retire there. Insurance, you must be kidding. Insurance companies didn't want the place and you know why.

The highest wind of the hurricane struck the neighborhood where my family is and a wall of water came in a big wave. But they survived while many drowned in their homes. Paradise turned into a nightmare in an instant.

Old folks moved to Cape Coral to get away from the bitter cold winters in places like Ohio and Indiana.
 
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landtuna said:
I just finished watching the evening ABC national news. What a bunch of baloney! Endless scenes of cheap and mobile homes being destroyed by wind and water. What did people living in those expect when hurricane force winds came a calling? And why did people who had the ability to evacuate but expect putting First Responders at risk to come get them? And why does ABC think this is 'news'?

The takeaway for me is that a lot of irresponsible people buy a place on the beach then watch it wash away every several years while expecting their insurance companies to bail them out (to rebuild no doubt).

Understanding the unusual severity of this hurricane I will repost an earlier opinion that the entire State of Florida should be evacuated and the peninsula turned into a nature refuge. Either that or severely limit the type of construction and number of permanent dwellings that can be rebuilt. Boat, aircraft and vehicle owners who leave their property at risk, although forewarned, should lose insurance coverage.
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Several of the major insurance companies have left Florida. My dad sold property in FL for that reason.

Even the "cheap" mobile homes can withstand 60 MPH.. I see them being being pulled down the interstate. Properly tided down Category 2 windspeeds are possible. Mobile homes make dynamic news footage because they tend to stay in one piece where as a stick build home s just a pile of splintered 2 by 4's and plywood not more than a couple of feet high.
 


Here is an update on Hurricane Ian hitting South Carolina.

abcnews4.com

Hurricane Ian causes significant flooding in downtown Charleston

Hurricane Ian has impacted the Lowcountry and the streets of downtown Charleston are experiencing signficantCaption: WCIV
abcnews4.com abcnews4.com

www.wyff4.com

Heavy rainfall coming down in parts of the Upstate as Ian moves through

Hurricane Ian, which made landfall in Georgetown at 2:05 p.m. Friday as a Category 1 storm, was downgraded at 5 p.m., but still had 70 mph winds.
www.wyff4.com www.wyff4.com

Reports of flood is in the Charleston area
 

City of Columbia: Avoid these streets and intersections during heavy rainfall - ABC Columbia

The City of Columbia is advising drivers to be cautious of flood-prone streets and intersections.
www.abccolumbia.com www.abccolumbia.com

Columbia SC are told to avoid certain areas due to Ian.

www.wltx.com

Ian lashes South Carolina coast with floodwaters; over 200,000 power outages reported

Ian is moving through eastern South Carolina, bringing with it heavy rain and strong winds.
www.wltx.com www.wltx.com

Note it's being listed as Post Cyclone according to this update.
 
DavidEduardo said:
In that case, evacuate coastal GA, SC, NC and VA at least as well as every place 100 miles from the Gulf of Mexico in FL, AL, MS, LA and Texas. And do Puerto Rico and the USVI in their entirety while you are at it as they are also in the US and part of the hurricane zone. And Hawaii and Somoa as well.

And with recent events with Eastern Pacific hurricanes, depopulate all of Southern California up to Santa Barbara and inland all the way to Palm Springs.

And since much of CA, OR, WA, NV and UT are subject to quakes, empty them too. Oh, and we are overdue for a repeat of the 1812 New Madrid quakes in SE Missouri, so let's evacuate St Louis and Memphis and all the surrounding area.

When that is done, lets grant foreign aid to all the Lesser and Greater Antilles, Jamaica, and coastal Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Belize, Panama, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. To be safe, add in Venezuela and Coastal Colombia as well as the Netherlands Antilles.
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You are WAY over the top my friend. Hurricanes on the FL peninsula are a common occurrence and their residential codes are clearly insufficient. The fastest way to die is to live in a mobile/manufactured home in FL and stick homes are not much better. What really pisses me off is that someone has to pay for them to rebuild only to get knocked down again and again. We either pay thru taxes or rising insurance premiums (not to mention the cost of keeping victims alive, fed and sheltered while the state gets rebuilt.

The other places you mention in the USA or territories do get severe storms but not every year (and yes, I note that Ian was worse than most). Plus, more and more people are moving to FL every year making the costs of a big storm even more significant. Living in FL in a mobile home has virtually the same risks as someone else living in tornado alley.

I don't care about those places outside the USA because they are not our problem.

And while you point out that SoCal is subject to earthquakes they have taken mitigating steps to lessen the risk and damage should the big one hit. Something FL doesn't seem to do even though earthquakes are much more difficult to predict than hurricanes.
 
secondchoice said:
Several of the major insurance companies have left Florida. My dad sold property in FL for that reason.
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Yup. Spend vacation down there but don't live down there.
secondchoice said:
Even the "cheap" mobile homes can withstand 60 MPH.. I see them being being pulled down the interstate. Properly tided down Category 2 windspeeds are possible. Mobile homes make dynamic news footage because they tend to stay in one piece where as a stick build home s just a pile of splintered 2 by 4's and plywood not more than a couple of feet high.
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My cousins used to live in Juneau, Alaska. They get tremendous wind storms up there so it is common to bury telephone poles in the front and rear and tie them across the roof with heavy stranded cable. You won't see mobile homes shredded by storms up there.

We have severe winds here in the desert during the summer and the mobile home parks almost always take a real beating. Plus, we don't have 3-4 days of notice that one of these big storms is coming. 60 MPH isn't close to what a full blown hurricane can inflict.

And, if you've been paying attention to the evening network news it has been full of scenes of spintered and shattered mobile homes.
 
Y2kTheNewOldies said:
True and also no part of the earth is safe harbor note all we can do is find a place where the risk is lower for some disasters but then again no risks can be eliminated completely.
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There are indeed risks all over the world but it is a quite different thing to have a risk that happens virtually every year.
 
landtuna said:
The other places you mention in the USA or territories do get severe storms but not every year (and yes, I note that Ian was worse than most). Plus, more and more people are moving to FL every year making the costs of a big storm even more significant. Living in FL in a mobile home has virtually the same risks as someone else living in tornado alley.

I don't care about those places outside the USA because they are not our problem.
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Not correct. Storms are becoming more frequent and more severe everywhere. The flooding that hit Kentucky and Pakistan recently was catastrophic. You should be concerned about the rest of the planet. It's all you've got...
 
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