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ratings 10/31/22

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They were released on Halloween. It looks like 92.9 got tricked while 680 got the Braves playoff treat. I wonder if the Falcons will help The Game now that baseball is over for the Braves this year? The Bull passed 101.5 which stumbled 3.4 to 2.8 (6+). Someone with a meter was in the same room that had a radio playing 640.
 
Also, the gap between V-103 (which is outside Top 10 6+ in this book) and Hot 107.9 is getting a little more narrow.

WNNX must have either great billing or low operation costs. The ratings make it seem as if they will flip to classic hip-hop OG any day now.

WSB is outside the Top 5, when they are usually a Top 3 station. Considering that it is fairly close to the midterms...
 
https://ratings.****************/content/arb047

They were released on Halloween. It looks like 92.9 got tricked while 680 got the Braves playoff treat. I wonder if the Falcons will help The Game now that baseball is over for the Braves this year? The Bull passed 101.5 which stumbled 3.4 to 2.8 (6+). Someone with a meter was in the same room that had a radio playing 640.
3.4 to 2.8 is not a "stumble". It is well within the margin of error of the survey, even more so with Nielsen's issues in sustaining a panel during the pandemic.
 
Wow, WABE really has sky-high ratings. You don't see such ratings back in 2020 or 2018.
It appears WABE is for real at least for now. Maybe it's because the Georgia Senate race could decide control of the Senate. But consider that in 2020, the Georgia Senate runoff definitely would determine which party controlled the Senate, and WABE's ratings didn't move up an inch. Perhaps after the Dobbs decision, people became more interested in the election, but I doubt that's the reason for WABE's big increase.

David, could a change in the PPM panel account for that much movement in a station's shares?
 
It appears WABE is for real at least for now. Maybe it's because the Georgia Senate race could decide control of the Senate. But consider that in 2020, the Georgia Senate runoff definitely would determine which party controlled the Senate, and WABE's ratings didn't move up an inch. Perhaps after the Dobbs decision, people became more interested in the election, but I doubt that's the reason for WABE's big increase.

David, could a change in the PPM panel account for that much movement in a station's shares?
Yes, panel changes, a few non-conforming panelists and just normal changes in listening can do that.

Remember, the average PPM panelist registers ("hears") more than 5 different stations each week (it was down a bit during the first two pandemic years) so a lot of the changes we see are variations of what each person's "most listened to station" is.

In the diary, we thought P1's were constant. In fact, people usually have two or three favorite stations and the have constant variations as to which they listen to the most.
 
David, could a change in the PPM panel account for that much movement in a station's shares?
I forgot to add that those of us who have the weekly data from Nielsen see week to week variations that may be even more extreme. And that is with a panel that changes, on average, only about 1% each week; so the panelists are pretty much the same people each week and any panel change effect is not noticeable unless a whole large household listened to one station all the time, every day, and then dropped out or went to Tahiti on vacation.
 
The show on WABE that I keep hearing people talk about is Rose Scott. I have heard friends talk about the show. I mentioned her to a friend while at Kroger and two others jumped in the conversation. I would be interested in knowing if her show helps push the ratings. Rose is on from 1-2 PM and a repeat at 7 PM.

Rose has been following the election closely. She has lots of interviews and ideas are presented in a non-confrontational way. Also, her show is very well produced.

Anyway, I looked at WRAS's ratings and they are terrible. WABE and WRAS (GPB) both duplicate programming during drive time, but have local programming in other dayparts. So, is the local programming driving WABE's ratings?
 
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3.4 to 2.8 is not a "stumble". It is well within the margin of error of the survey, even more so with Nielsen's issues in sustaining a panel during the pandemic.
Dave come on they didn't trip and fall. They have beat the Bull (6+) the last three releases. I did not say blow it up or fire the air staff. It was around 23% drop but this only one book. Google defines stumble "as trip or momentarily lose one's balance, almost fall". Next book if they are back above 3 (6+) this is just momentary. There is an old saying "almost doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades".

Would an agency buyer spend more on the Bull for a Christmas buy based on this ratings period (assuming age demos are about the same)? IIRC we saw agency orders for after Thanksgiving and December show up around now.
 
Would an agency buyer spend more on the Bull for a Christmas buy based on this ratings period (assuming age demos are about the same)? IIRC we saw agency orders for after Thanksgiving and December show up around now.
Agency buyers don't rely on just 1 month. They buy based on an average of usually 3 months in order to smooth out what appear to be fluky peaks and valleys.

In terms of programming, the 2 Country stations seem very evenly matched. Not sure why WKHX had been so solidly ahead. The morning show casts on both stations are very talented, and the other local jocks are excellent. Both have syndicated shows at night, but I suppose today's radio economics force virtually all stations into a syndicated daypart.
 
I'm sure part of it has to do with an election year, but....
Also notice that WSB is not the leader it once was. I think listeners are tiring of the constant "conservative" talk.
Am Rock, you may be right, but maybe not. It may be connected to the lack of people driving to work because more people are working remotely. The traffic levels are nowhere near what they were pre-pandemic. WSB was huge morning and afternoon during drivetimes.
 
Anyway, I looked at WRAS's ratings and they are terrible. WABE and WRAS (GPB) both duplicate programming during drive time, but have local programming in other dayparts. So, is the local programming driving WABE's ratings?
Barry, I look at it this way:

Georgia Public Broadcasting sells its statewide network to advertisers; you cannot buy individual stations. Therefore, GPB really needed an Atlanta affiliate. So from GPB's standpoint, getting WRAS was paramount.

From the listener's perspective, however, there was/is no need for a second NPR station in the market. Listeners have been getting NPR programming from WABE for years so why would they change stations? I see nothing WRAS offers that would motivate them to do that. You mentioned local programming, and WABE's audience seems very comfortable with it. Look at the enduring popularity of Lois Reitzes, for example. Again, no reason to change stations.
 
Am Rock, you may be right, but maybe not. It may be connected to the lack of people driving to work because more people are working remotely. The traffic levels are nowhere near what they were pre-pandemic. WSB was huge morning and afternoon during drivetimes.
Possible. But does that mean people are listening to WABE at home and not in their car?
 
The show on WABE that I keep hearing people talk about is Rose Scott. I have heard friends talk about the show. I mentioned her to a friend while at Kroger and two others jumped in the conversation. I would be interested in knowing if her show helps push the ratings. Rose is on from 1-2 PM and a repeat at 7 PM.

Rose has been following the election closely. She has lots of interviews and ideas are presented in a non-confrontational way. Also, her show is very well produced.

Anyway, I looked at WRAS's ratings and they are terrible. WABE and WRAS (GPB) both duplicate programming during drive time, but have local programming in other dayparts. So, is the local programming driving WABE's ratings?
The only thing GPB offers is Political Rewind. Does that show have higher numbers than the rest of the day?
 
Dave come on they didn't trip and fall. They have beat the Bull (6+) the last three releases. I did not say blow it up or fire the air staff. It was around 23% drop but this only one book. Google defines stumble "as trip or momentarily lose one's balance, almost fall". Next book if they are back above 3 (6+) this is just momentary. There is an old saying "almost doesn't count except in horseshoes and hand grenades".
I did not say they did badly. You misinterpreted my post totally

I said that the change was within the margin of error and does not indicate a problem. My point is that the numbers vary by even more than that in the week-to-week "weeklies" only subscribers can see. It's normal and not for concern unless there is a multi-month downward trend and unless the weeklies keep descending in the target demo.
Would an agency buyer spend more on the Bull for a Christmas buy based on this ratings period (assuming age demos are about the same)? IIRC we saw agency orders for after Thanksgiving and December show up around now.
Agencies don't buy based on one book, and they don't buy on share. Traditionally, they have bought on ratings points, so thus the term "GRIPS" for Gross Ratings Points. If buying by ratings, a share move of 0.5 or so will not change the rating.

Some agencies now are moving to AQH Persons, which allows for comparison with new media. But that is not the most common practice today.

In any case, agencies look at the data average over, generally three to six books... not one single book.
 
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Am Rock, you may be right, but maybe not. It may be connected to the lack of people driving to work because more people are working remotely. The traffic levels are nowhere near what they were pre-pandemic. WSB was huge morning and afternoon during drivetimes.
Nielsen data released a couple of weeks ago shows that listening levels are very close now to those of 2019 across the country.

While many people work in jobs that can be done from remote locations, most require being ON the job... shipping, deliveries, construction, maintenance, manufacturing, retail, medical, police, fire, home repairs, and many others still require being wherever the job is.
 
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