It seems like forever ago there was actual rock music on the charts. The closest thing is indie pop and maybe imagine dragons (which tow the line between indie rock and indie pop.) There was daylight by shinedown on hot ac, but it didnt get very high. Hell, most ac artists are also fading, except for a smaller song by andy grammar on hot ac. Thoughts?
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What happened to rock on the charts?
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Nope, you're again basing your claims on personal observations from a small part of the nation. Picking individual artists or titles is not representative of an entire format, or stations in those formats.
Changing demographics, changing musical preferences. Rock has become a fractured, dying genre, with islands of die-hards clinging to one style or another, or one band or another, while other genres keep developing new stars who connect with a vast majority of listeners to that genre. The longer rock goes without a mass-appeal sound or stars, the greater the chance that it becomes relevant only as nostalgia.
I think you're asking about rock crossover to the pop chart? That's an interesting topic, and says more about the state of rock music than anything else.
What you are seeing now is the revival of country crossovers to the pop chart. With artists like Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs, and Kane Brown, you're more likely to hear a country song on AT40 than a rock song.
What happened to rock? Bad music, bad promotion, bad marketing. The Hot 100 is a competition. Right now, Brenda Lee is eating up chart space with a 65 year old song. Nobody doesn't like Brenda Lee.
What you are seeing now is the revival of country crossovers to the pop chart. With artists like Morgan Wallen, Luke Combs, and Kane Brown, you're more likely to hear a country song on AT40 than a rock song.
What happened to rock? Bad music, bad promotion, bad marketing. The Hot 100 is a competition. Right now, Brenda Lee is eating up chart space with a 65 year old song. Nobody doesn't like Brenda Lee.
See if you can find "Rusty Bells". I am not religious in the slightest but that song tears my heart out.What is being called rock is changing, based on nominations in the rock category on awards shows.
I did hear a clip of Maneskin and I think that would qualify. It was a recent awards show.
I did hear a clip of Maneskin and I think that would qualify. It was a recent awards show.
Soft rock also does not seem to have much staying power like it used to. It seemed like in the '00s, soft rock was all over hot AC and even some on CHR like Lifehouse and David Cook. However, those days seem long and whatever soft rock song does not stay like (like "Arcade"). I am unsure why that is, as much of the softer rock tracks (like "Lips of an Angel") seem radio friendly.
Maybe some of the AC/CHR audience that preferred their rock softer has been siphoned off by country stations.
Could be, but makes me wonder if I too should check out country more often. (I always liked that style of music. 🤔)
I would classify both as alternative pop personally. Harry Styles rocks more than those two.
Whatever happened to lily allen? I know she was bigger in britain ways, but I'd classify her as alt pop.
One hit wonder as far as the US is concerned. Never say never but that’s her current status.
She had one Top 40 hit in 2011, but not as the lead artist. ("5 O'Clock" by T-Pain featuring Wiz Khalifa and Lily Allen)
Didnt she have smile and the fear too? (Ldn I think never charted in the us.)
"Smile" went up to #49 on the Billboard Hot 100, and "The Fear" peaked at #80. Both were number one in the UK.
Lily Allen's other number one in the UK was a cover of Keane's "Somewhere Only We Know." The song was featured in the 2013 Christmas commercial for John Lewis, the British department store chain.
Lily Allen discography: Singles (Wikipedia)
Im starting to think audiences here in the us have no taste!
Reminds me of a joke I saw recently posted by a Brit:
Q: What's the difference between the United States and yogurt?
A: When you leave yogurt alone for 200 years, it develops a culture.
When the Hot 100 is perennially dominated by Taylor Swift, Christmas songs in December, and songs that can be best described as “bitch ass, bitch ass, bitch ass (X42)”, yeah I see the argument that we have no musical culture ahaha. Or, perhaps more accurately, we have an atrocious one.
A lot of those Hot 100 hits don’t get radio airplay either. A lot of pop radio’s “hits” often scrape the Hot 100 at best, because they can’t play the songs that are actually popular due to their subject matter and exceptional amounts of profanity. This has created a disconnect, but what can anyone do? You can’t make people listen to the songs that pop radio thinks should be popular.
A lot of those Hot 100 hits don’t get radio airplay either. A lot of pop radio’s “hits” often scrape the Hot 100 at best, because they can’t play the songs that are actually popular due to their subject matter and exceptional amounts of profanity. This has created a disconnect, but what can anyone do? You can’t make people listen to the songs that pop radio thinks should be popular.
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