WGNY Gets A 4.9

[MTNProductions]

According to the latest Fall 2022 Poughkeepsie Ratings Book, it claims that WGNY-FM’s “Fox Oldies” earns a 4.9 in the ratings, and it ranks #2 along with WPDH which is still at #1.

This means, “Fox Oldies” beating WGHQ’s “Magic 92.5” where it doesn’t show up in the ratings, and it still earns a “Big Fat Zero”, WBPM at 1.5 and WROW’s “Magic 590/100.5” which is at 3.1 according to the latest Albany ratings book.

And one midday host did returned is Sunny Joe Allen, he does a great job bringing him back to middays again after a brief stint out on Long Island on another radio station that he was supposed to come on, but it didn’t work out, and Sunny Joe went back to middays for now. I only listen to him only on Saturdays, and as for Bob O, he went back to mornings after a few months of doing middays since Van Ritshie returned for a few months. I don’t know if Van Ritshie might return to mornings on WALL? We’ll never know.

And also, I love the way the station is screwing up airtime and running annoying “Fox Oldies” jingles all the time, and repetitive stingers a lot.

I hope when the Spring 2023 Poughkeepsie ratings book comes out, WGNY will become the #1 oldies station ever in the Hudson Valley, and I hope maybe more syndicated programming might be consider coming. Maybe they can bring back Wolfman Jack to weekday afternoons and forget all-request lunch hour right between Sunny Joe Allen. Wolfman Jack would be better than the other ones.

How about on Sundays maybe “Fox Oldies” will added a couple of specialty shows like Dick Robinson’s “American Standards By The Sea” which is a good one playing MOR/standards music from Nat King Cole, Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Glenn Miller, Tommy Dorsey and more. And then, “The Sound Of Sinatra” with the late, great Sid Mark. I would love to put them on WGNY on Sunday mornings. The rest will be Cool Bobby B’s “Doo-Wop Stop” and “When Radio Was” will remain as well.

Or if they do, maybe WABC will launch a radio network called the WABC Musicradio Network where it will be carrying Cousin Brucie, Vinnie Medugno, Tony Orlando, Deana Martin and Joe Piscopo which will be part of a new future radio network, and the WABC Musicradio Network will be considered to be carrying on many oldies stations across the country soon if it does well, maybe WABC will be consider starting a new radio network, but I don’t think it’s going to happen anytime soon. And one thing, forget “Goddard’s Gold”, that show sucks.

Let’s hope WGNY-FM’s “Fox Oldies” might be adding new syndicated programming soon like “American Standards By The Sea” with Dick Robinson and “Sounds Of Sinatra” with Sid Mark, and I hope this might be coming.

And by the way, the rest of the numbers is linked below.

https://ratings.****************/content/arb518

 

[davideduardo]

According to the latest Fall 2022 Poughkeepsie Ratings Book, it claims that WGNY-FM’s “Fox Oldies” earns a 4.9 in the ratings, and it ranks #2 along with WPDH which is still at #1.

But in 25-54, it ranks 19th. It survives with moderately decent billings because that is such a small market there is not much agency business. (Market rank: 164th in the US)

This means, “Fox Oldies” beating WGHQ’s “Magic 92.5” where it doesn’t show up in the ratings, and it still earns a “Big Fat Zero”,

WGHQ is an AM with a translator out at the edge that only puts a 60 dbu over 46,000 persons almost all outside of the market, which has 301,000 persons.

 

[MTNProductions]

But in 25-54, it ranks 19th. It survives with moderately decent billings because that is such a small market there is not much agency business. (Market rank: 164th in the US)

WGHQ is an AM with a translator out at the edge that only puts a 60 dbu over 46,000 persons almost all outside of the market, which has 301,000 persons.

And not only that, the other that “Fox Oldies” did that they are screwing up the airtime so bad, and I love it. I love the way the station is messing up the airtime, I love the annoying “Fox Oldies” PAMS jingles and repetitive promos like “This is not a test”, “All your oldies”, etc. which is possibly my all-time favorite and I enjoyed listening to ”Fox Oldies” a lot, because it blows the competition out of the ballpark like WGHQ’s “Magic 92.5”, WBPM where listeners hated 80’s music with less oldies from the 60’s, a lot from the 70’s that “Fox Oldies” doesn’t play 70’s hits, WROW’s “Magic 590/100.5”, WMTR and on weekends like WKNY with Warren Lawrence with his Saturday afternoon oldies show, and on WABC on weekends with Cousin Brucie.

But “Fox Oldies” is going to be the big winner in the next Spring 2023 Poughkeepsie ratings book during the summer of 2023, and they’re still playing the oldies from 1954 through 1969, without playing 70’s and 80’s songs. This is why they are focusing on 50’s and 60’s oldies, not 70’s and 80’s and they are now being stuck in there.

As of now when I was making this post, Sunny Joe Allen sounds terrific on “Fox Oldies”, and he was supposed to come on at 10AM, but instead, he started early at 9:56AM instead of 10AM, and the TOH newscast supposed to come on at 10AM, but it started at 9:53AM which is very good, and I love it.

And I want to let you know that WGNY-FM’s “Fox Oldies” sounds a lot better than WROW, WBPM, WGHQ, WABC, WALL, WKNY and WMTR. I hope “Fox Oldies” will be #1 when the Spring Poughkeepsie ratings book comes out. Time will tell.

Now that Scott Shannon is now gone from WCBS-FM and I finally give up the station, I will check other oldies stations like “Fox Oldies” where it sounds a lot like the old CBS-FM Circa 1972 when it was the “Golden 101”.

BTW, if you want to look at the playlist on what the songs were played, take a look at this.

Fox Oldies 98.9 WGNY On Air Playlist

The latest Playlists for Fox Oldies 98.9 WGNY

wgny.tunegenie.com

 

[Hyrum]

Isn't WGNY FM now (poor edit) Oldies, WGNY? I think they edited the PAMS jingles to remove "Fox". If they had a 4.9 in any advertiser desired demographic, I think they could probably afford to have Jon Wolfert recut the jingle package. In any case, I'd really wonder about the demos because if the station is all that successful, I would think we'd hear more actual advertising and fewer of those atrocious promos which have been rightly criticized in this forum. I wonder if the FOX media people suggested that the FOX oldies branding might not be welcomed. Since we're on the topic of bad logos, if anyone from GNY reads this, remember that there is a reason few stations use the term "oldies" It's dated and old. Try "greatest hits" or "great music" without old references. Somewhere in the basement you'll find an old box of Gwinsound jingles that brand the station as the "greatest hits of all time". They'll sound better than the poorly edited PAMS jingles are sounding. Good luck.

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

Isn't WGNY FM now (poor edit) Oldies, WGNY? I think they edited the PAMS jingles to remove "Fox". If they had a 4.9 in any advertiser desired demographic, I think they could probably afford to have Jon Wolfert recut the jingle package. In any case, I'd really wonder about the demos because if the station is all that successful, I would think we'd hear more actual advertising and fewer of those atrocious promos which have been rightly criticized in this forum. I wonder if the FOX media people suggested that the FOX oldies branding might not be welcomed. Since we're on the topic of bad logos, if anyone from GNY reads this, remember that there is a reason few stations use the term "oldies" It's dated and old. Try "greatest hits" or "great music" without old references. Somewhere in the basement you'll find an old box of Gwinsound jingles that brand the station as the "greatest hits of all time". They'll sound better than the poorly edited PAMS jingles are sounding. Good luck.

i'm on a station that uses the slogan "good time oldies" now and again.. we alternate with "greatest hits of the 60s, 70s and more.... in my 2 qweeks there so far, ive heard songs as old as 1958, but not often... lots of 60s and 70s, some, but few 80s

 

[Hyrum]

If you are trying to attract new listeners, years and numbers are pointless. Instead of talking about 1958 gold, you need to talk about the great song featured in (modern day movie) or a song that sound great especially if you love surfing or cars, or whatever that old song is about. In other words frame it as something that everyone can relate too and not as something only a dinosaur remembers. Oldies stations can have all the hundred year olds in the world listening, but the advertisers don't care. If you can't attract people advertisers care about you can't make money. It doesn't matter if the song is from 1858, 1958, 2008 or yesterday as long as it has some fidelity quality and can be enjoyed by everyone.

 

[SomeRadioGuy]

If you are trying to attract new listeners, years and numbers are pointless. Instead of talking about 1958 gold, you need to talk about the great song featured in (modern day movie) or a song that sound great especially if you love surfing or cars, or whatever that old song is about. In other words frame it as something that everyone can relate too and not as something only a dinosaur remembers. Oldies stations can have all the hundred year olds in the world listening, but the advertisers don't care. If you can't attract people advertisers care about you can't make money. It doesn't matter if the song is from 1858, 1958, 2008 or yesterday as long as it has some fidelity quality and can be enjoyed by everyone.

These stations are doing pretty good just as they are. Not sayign they cant get better, but the owner knows what hes doing.

 

[xmradiopro]

Isn't WGNY FM now (poor edit) Oldies, WGNY? I think they edited the PAMS jingles to remove "Fox". If they had a 4.9 in any advertiser desired demographic, I think they could probably afford to have Jon Wolfert recut the jingle package. In any case, I'd really wonder about the demos because if the station is all that successful, I would think we'd hear more actual advertising and fewer of those atrocious promos which have been rightly criticized in this forum. I wonder if the FOX media people suggested that the FOX oldies branding might not be welcomed. Since we're on the topic of bad logos, if anyone from GNY reads this, remember that there is a reason few stations use the term "oldies" It's dated and old. Try "greatest hits" or "great music" without old references. Somewhere in the basement you'll find an old box of Gwinsound jingles that brand the station as the "greatest hits of all time". They'll sound better than the poorly edited PAMS jingles are sounding. Good luck.

 

[xmradiopro]

I think the right thing to do for WGNY's radio image is to use a proven successful slogan that has been used for famous oldies stations like Music Radio WABC, WMCA Good Guys, KHJ Boss Radio.

 

[Hyrum]

Agreed. But it ain't "Fox oldies". GNY has the oldest call letters in the Hudson Valley. I'd try to make that heritage part of it but I'd avoid anything old or oldies. I also find it cluttering when they id all the frequencies. WGNY 98.9, 1220, at whatever the translator frequency is, is a mouthful.

 

[xmradiopro]

Agreed. But it ain't "Fox oldies". GNY has the oldest call letters in the Hudson Valley. I'd try to make that heritage part of it but I'd avoid anything old or oldies. I also find it cluttering when they id all the frequencies. WGNY 98.9, 1220, at whatever the translator frequency is, is a mouthful.

WGNY 1220 is 10,000 watts upgrade to when they were 5000 watts for the longest time.
I don't understand why with 10,000 watts their AM signal on 1220 doesn't come in better. Translator is on 105.3 FM.

 

[Hyrum]

That 10K signal is about half of what it was with the five thousand watts from the better site. I think the poor ground system on the Rock Cut Road property has something to do with it. The signal is far worse than it used to be. Although they operate with a pittance of power at night, they are effectively a daytime. I have driven down the road watching their tower lights from just a few miles away at night and heard mostly static on 1220. It's another case of wasting electricity. If the translator covers the community of license, turn off the AM station and save the electricity. Personally I wonder if anyone would know if they did turn it off. I know I've tuned in once or twice to find it off the air and I wondered if anyone else noticed.

 

[davideduardo]

Isn't WGNY FM now (poor edit) Oldies, WGNY? I think they edited the PAMS jingles to remove "Fox". If they had a 4.9 in any advertiser desired demographic, I think they could probably afford to have Jon Wolfert recut the jingle package. In any case, I'd really wonder about the demos because if the station is all that successful, I would think we'd hear more actual advertising and fewer of those atrocious promos which have been rightly criticized in this forum.

WGNY AM/FM is an oldies station, and is around 15th in 25-54. A power increase of to 10 kw is minor as it takes four times the power to double the coverage. 10 kw is barely enough to preserve the older coverage area now that there is so much new noise from LEDs, wall warts, computers, CPUs and the like.

 

[MHVRadiofan]

I don't recall when exactly WGNY upgraded from 5Kw to 10Kw. I do remember them operating on 1200 for awhile years ago. Why they would waste the money and electricity upgrading their power to 10Kw with the programing simulcast on 98.9 WGNY-FM , and re-aired on the 105.3 translator in the Newburg area where the 98.9 signal is weak. Adding 105.3 seems to acknowledge people are not listening to 1220 anymore, due to the noise floor and poor sound quality of music on AM.
Was this power upgrade made before the birth of WGNY-FM ? That would make more sense, but if it were up to me I would request the FCC for permission to revert to the 5Kw they used to have, or less non -directional.
I agree the ID 98.9 1220 & 105.3 is a mouthful. I heard one of the on air personalities ( Van Richie or Bob O) say as much). Most stations with FM translators only refer to the AM for legal ID.
As far as the "oldies" monoker I think they are trying to attract those of us that look nostalgically back at the 60's- 70's . I am not as much a fan of the amount of 50's music they play. However, the same can be said for younger listeners not wanting to hear much 60's music. We are getting old and dying off, and advertisers are not interested in selling to us. Nevertheless, Sunrise broadcasting has been doing this for years. If it was not working, if they were not profitable they would have to change. What were don't know is their financial situation; we can only speculate.

 

[Hyrum]

WGNY has a long and disgusted history until the mid 80s when it was sold to a guy who knew as much about broadcasting as a bus driver knows about flying and F 16. That started a series of missteps what had him lose the operation to the next guy who moved the studios to a new location but did not buy/lease the transmitter site. When the property was sold it forced WGNY to move their antenna to another property. They got temporary authority to operate at a lower power at 1200am. I think in the long run they were going to try to upgrade to a much higher power, but that never happened. They finally acquired land in the town of Newburgh and built the three tower 10,000 watt array. I have read there is a ground system issue there. The station was 5000 watts with three towers prior to that, so reducing power and going non direction is probably never going to be allowed.
WGNY did have an FM dating back to the late 60s when they bought WFMN 103.1 which became WGNY FM in the mid 80s until the new Rosendale assignment of 98.9 took the call letters and 103.1 became WJGK.

I don't think the oldies moniker is good for attracting younger listeners and we dinosaurs already know what it is. I am not fond of their blend of music either, but I was never a fanatic about the tunes of any station, even when I was young and buying those expensive 79 cent 45s. WGNY is not successful. You can hear so by the number of commercials and quality of sponsors. I maintain that they need to change the perception to "great music" or "happy music" or anything else that says it's fun to listen too but it's not old fashioned stuff that people in nursing homes foam at the mouth over. And that's my perception of their current branding. It says old and not fun. Younger people will ignore it forever. The promos suck as much as the edits on the PAMS jingles. They've been using the same voice since the 80s and they certainly don't change them often enough. I have a nostalgia for the station so I'd like to see it survive, but if I want just music, I have satellite radio so I don't need WGNY. If WGNY provides entertainment and something interesting, I'd be tempted to try it for old times sake. I don't think the AM signal adds any value. As you said the FM and translators cover the service area. As I've stated, I would like to see a rule change that allows those with translators to turn off the AM stations. But the government has more pressing problems to deal with at the moment.

 

[Hyrum]

I don't recall when exactly WGNY upgraded from 5Kw to 10Kw. I do remember them operating on 1200 for awhile years ago. Why they would waste the money and electricity upgrading their power to 10Kw with the programing simulcast on 98.9 WGNY-FM , and re-aired on the 105.3 translator in the Newburg area where the 98.9 signal is weak. Adding 105.3 seems to acknowledge people are not listening to 1220 anymore, due to the noise floor and poor sound quality of music on AM.
Was this power upgrade made before the birth of WGNY-FM ? That would make more sense, but if it were up to me I would request the FCC for permission to revert to the 5Kw they used to have, or less non -directional.
I agree the ID 98.9 1220 & 105.3 is a mouthful. I heard one of the on air personalities ( Van Richie or Bob O) say as much). Most stations with FM translators only refer to the AM for legal ID.
As far as the "oldies" monoker I think they are trying to attract those of us that look nostalgically back at the 60's- 70's . I am not as much a fan of the amount of 50's music they play. However, the same can be said for younger listeners not wanting to hear much 60's music. We are getting old and dying off, and advertisers are not interested in selling to us. Nevertheless, Sunrise broadcasting has been doing this for years. If it was not working, if they were not profitable they would have to change. What were don't know is their financial situation; we can only speculate.

You are correct in that we can only speculate. I hear very few advertisers and a lot of promos and nonsense. It's like someone loaded up the computer and let it play on and on with little consideration except to keep a signal out there. No one tries to attract the 55 plus audience. Advertisers don't car much for the dinosaur population. I know, I'm one of you. The oldies moniker is dated and reflects everything younger demos hate. I'd try something different Sunrise may or not be making money, but I'm betting they are not making much of it. Listen to the quality of the very few actually commercials they run. As you point out they know their audience is dying so it seems foolish that they would continue it as is without making some kind of change and attempt to skew younger.

We have all acknowledged that the 1220 signal is superfluos. I'd like to see the FCC change the rules to allow the AM stations feeding the translators to turn them off and save a few bucks on the electric bill. WGNY moved to new studios about 1989 or so. They didn't buy the land that the transmitter was on and ended up having to vacate. That's when the change to 1200 at 1KW occurred. If memory serves they were attempting to get a CP for much more power at that frequency. I guess the cost was more than they wanted to spend and they got new property in the town of Newburgh and rebuilt the three tower array, this time at 10,000 watts. I believe that I've read something about the ground system making the new site not an ideal installation. I don't think a change in pattern, or power will help the AM signal. It's a lot of noise from all the crap that makes every AM signal unlistenable five miles outside the transmitter shack that effects it. I don't see a future for the oldies on that station. Most of us dinosaurs can get oldies on satellite radio with better personalities and none of those crappy promos which repeat endlessly on WGNY. Same voice guy for decades, so at least he has a good gig. I assume everything outside of possibly the mornings are voice tracked. I can't imagine they're paying the local jocks much if anything.

 

[davideduardo]

No one tries to attract the 55 plus audience. Advertisers don't car much for the dinosaur population.

Not exactly true. In markets where there is little national agency business (essentially most of the non-PPM markets) local accounts use the cash register as their "ratings" and they don't care if clients or customers are over 55.

For example, a 60's and 70's oldies station in Phoenix, a top 15 market, will not do as well even if it is in the top 5 12+ stations as one in Lubbock or Albuquerque or Traverse City.

The oldies moniker is dated and reflects everything younger demos hate.

With "oldies" you are not going to get younger demos no matter what you call it. But the issue is that the name may be shopworn, not the format.

Sunrise may or not be making money, but I'm betting they are not making much of it. Listen to the quality of the very few actually commercials they run. As you point out they know their audience is dying so it seems foolish that they would continue it as is without making some kind of change and attempt to skew younger.

On the other hand, the 18-34 group is listening to less and less radio and if most sales are local direct, a 45-64 base target is perfectly reasonable and sustainable with good management.

We have all acknowledged that the 1220 signal is superfluos. I'd like to see the FCC change the rules to allow the AM stations feeding the translators to turn them off and save a few bucks on the electric bill.

Agreed. It would clear the band and allow for a few remaining AMs to improve their signal.

WGNY moved to new studios about 1989 or so. They didn't buy the land that the transmitter was on and ended up having to vacate. That's when the change to 1200 at 1KW occurred. If memory serves they were attempting to get a CP for much more power at that frequency. I guess the cost was more than they wanted to spend and they got new property in the town of Newburgh and rebuilt the three tower array, this time at 10,000 watts. I believe that I've read something about the ground system making the new site not an ideal installation. I don't think a change in pattern, or power will help the AM signal. It's a lot of noise from all the crap that makes every AM signal unlistenable five miles outside the transmitter shack that effects it.

This sounds like a case of management that did not understand radio well. That, indeed, may be their biggest issue.

I don't see a future for the oldies on that station. Most of us dinosaurs can get oldies on satellite radio with better personalities and none of those crappy promos which repeat endlessly on WGNY. Same voice guy for decades, so at least he has a good gig. I assume everything outside of possibly the mornings are voice tracked. I can't imagine they're paying the local jocks much if anything.

Again, badly managed. Better to get a syndicated oldies format that has fresh talent and is constantly supervised and curated than to do that sort of thing locally with a limited budget. Listeners don't say, "I know it's bad, but it's local and I love that..."

 

[MHVRadiofan]

I'd try something different Sunrise may or not be making money, but I'm betting they are not making much of it. Listen to the quality of the very few actually commercials they run.

At the end of the day a broadcast company and their radio stations are a business. Like any other business if they are not making enough profit they will be forced to change sell the stations,or eventually go out of business . Is Sunrise Broadcasting satisfied with a minimum profit ?

WGNY moved to new studios about 1989 or so. They didn't buy the land that the transmitter was on and ended up having to vacate. That's when the change to 1200 at 1KW occurred. If memory serves they were attempting to get a CP for much more power at that frequency. I guess the cost was more than they wanted to spend and they got new property in the town of Newburgh and rebuilt the three tower array, this time at 10,000 watts.

I remember this now. They wanted to relocate to 1200 with a 3 tower array to a ridge overlooking the Hudson River, in Highland, across from Poughkeepsie. Switching to 1200 required them to move north to protect first adjacent 1190 WLIB, NYC ,which I believe still objected to the change. Also a group ( non-government) working with the Roosevelt Estate in Hyde Park , claimed the towers affected the "viewshed" of the FDR Home violating a clause in the gifting of the estate from the Roosevelts to the US Park Service. I guess they missed the big tower and the two smaller ones a bit further away , now home to most Poughkeepsie area FMs. Why Sunrise wanted to change frequencies is a mystery to me.

We have all acknowledged that the 1220 signal is superfluos. I'd like to see the FCC change the rules to allow the AM stations feeding the translators to turn them off and save a few bucks on the electric bill.

I agree 100 %. This would clear up some of the clutter and nighttime chatter that makes stations unlistenable more than a few miles from the transmitter. Some stations lacking a FM translator may be able to then increase their power to overcome the other noise on AM. It would save the struggling stations with translators some money on their electric bill as well . It makes perfect sense.

The oldies moniker is dated and reflects everything younger demos hate.

As you point out they know their audience is dying so it seems foolish that they would continue it as is without making some kind of change and attempt to skew younger.

Like most "oldies"or "classic hits"stations they are not looking to attract a younger audience. Back in the day contemporary hits stations were golden frequently occupying the top spots in the ratings. No more. The young crowed prefers to stream their music tailored to their exact tastes. Now adult contemporary stations in a few different forms do well, but classic rock , country, various versions of spoken word frequently do better than CHR. Sadly, eventually the oldies format will disappear just like our parents preferred format , what is referred to as standards did. Just not yet. I hated the stuff they listened to. Side note ; my 21 year old grandaughter recently asked why I don't like rap/ hip hop. And so it goes.

I don't see a future for the oldies on that station. Most of us dinosaurs can get oldies on satellite radio with better personalities and none of those crappy promos which repeat endlessly on WGNY. Same voice guy for decades, so at least he has a good gig. I assume everything outside of possibly the mornings are voice tracked. I can't imagine they're paying the local jocks much if anything.

I guess I am an old school dinosaur. I still get my music from free terrestrial FM radio . I am not paying for it. While many decry the lack of local on air talent with community roots, others are surprise when I tell them nobody is actually at the station. The local small market station jocks never got paid much. They do it because they love it and hope to move up to a bigger station eventually. They also need a side hustle to survive. But that hope is fading as stations voice track, use a satellite service, or run jockless automation.

 

[MTNProductions]

Not exactly true. In markets where there is little national agency business (essentially most of the non-PPM markets) local accounts use the cash register as their "ratings" and they don't care if clients or customers are over 55.

For example, a 60's and 70's oldies station in Phoenix, a top 15 market, will not do as well even if it is in the top 5 12+ stations as one in Lubbock or Albuquerque or Traverse City.

With "oldies" you are not going to get younger demos no matter what you call it. But the issue is that the name may be shopworn, not the format.

On the other hand, the 18-34 group is listening to less and less radio and if most sales are local direct, a 45-64 base target is perfectly reasonable and sustainable with good management.

Agreed. It would clear the band and allow for a few remaining AMs to improve their signal.

This sounds like a case of management that did not understand radio well. That, indeed, may be their biggest issue.

Again, badly managed. Better to get a syndicated oldies format that has fresh talent and is constantly supervised and curated than to do that sort of thing locally with a limited budget. Listeners don't say, "I know it's bad, but it's local and I love that..."

Thanks for the long comments about WGNY, “Fox Oldies”, and the whole sh-bang. I hope maybe the station will be #1 when the Poughkeepsie Spring ratings book comes out in the summer, but the problem is that they played old commercials like Robert Hall Shoes, Coppertone 10 and Hoffman’s Soda. I hate it!!!! The “Fox Oldies” PAMS jingles needs to go! Why not update the format, and add more 70’s and more 80’s to the station, and I hope this station needs to go after WGHQ’s “Magic 92.5”.

Look at WGHQ by the way. They did an incredible job plays 50’s through the 80’s with few 90’s thrown in. So WGNY needs to add a lot of 70’s into the oldies format. If the station succeeds, WGNY will be #1.

And also, over in Albany, WROW, which is a competitor to WGNY recently rebranded it and calling it “Good Times, Great Oldies” which was back in late January, and then they dropped the PAMS jingles along with some TM “You” jingles and JAM’s “Do It Again” jingles like the way they used for WCBS-FM for years. And as of now, “Magic 590/100.5” is now “Magic 100.5/590” or “Magic 100.5/AM 590”. And then they ditched the CBS TOH newscast with the “10 Songs In A Row” segment every hour, on the hour, and thankfully, WGNY is still keeping the ABC Radio TOH newscast at the top of the hour, but I don’t see it going away anytime soon, and I don’t listen to TOH newscast every hour. And finally, “Magic 100.5” formerly “Magic 590” got brand new jingles and unlike the “Fox Oldies” or “Oldies” PAMS jingles that WGNY is still using which is bad, the new “Magic” jingles sounds horrible. But the rest of the format remains unchanged. I was listening to John Gabriel today and it sounds really good. No question about it.

 

[davideduardo]

I remember this now. They wanted to relocate to 1200 with a 3 tower array to a ridge overlooking the Hudson River, in Highland, across from Poughkeepsie.

Was that ridge location the only land available? Generally, the last place you want an AM transmitter is on a ridge, hill, mountain or any other kind of "highland" location.

Swamps, marshlands, tidal plains and platforms in the ocean are the best locations.