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Channel 20 WQDI-LD TV

"No" and "Yes"

My original thinking was DTVAmerica put channels 20 & 41 on the air thinking they could sell them for profit in the near future. At this stage, unlikely as low-powers aren't what we once hoped for. Their selections for sub-channels, once the full powers take them away is next to nothing BUT infomercials.

Weigels purchase of (Now WOCV, Channel 35) is probably the closest we will see to a low-power trying to build itself a decent network of sub-channels. And even at that, only if they can wrestle their owned stations away from the stations that currently carry them. And me? I'm still holding out that they add some local flavor to the main channel.

As for the 3's, 5's and 23's??? Way too many shop at homes. When stations pile on the sub's like these do, does it defeat their own purpose?

Sidenote: WCDN (Channel 53) looks to have added a sub-channel for "Reflections" (53.3). I picked up 53 with no problems when I lived in Parma Heights. 15 years later and now in Parma itself, I can't pick it up at all.
What kind of antenna are you using? WCDN being on RF7 needs VHF capability even though you're close to the towers by being in Parma.
 
What is with WQDI-LD Channel 20? For the past several days they seem to be broadcasting a good signal, but all channels are breaking up. Is this some kind of satellite or other trouble at the transmitter? I notice that some of the low power TV stations which broadcast from that short tower just south of downtown Cleveland are often off the air for no reason. I presume that this is some kind of turnkey operation, established primarily to collect carriage fees from the shoppers' networks, but isn't anybody minding the store?
This issue has been going on for some time. The signal is usable but the pictures look like a broken satellite feed but it's happened before on those HC2 stations.
 
It’s funny because I was talking with @Sammi Brie elsewhere yesterday about HC2’s station group and if their stations deserve their own Wikipedia articles (instead of being listed on HC2’s page). As she put it to me, stations like WQDI/KONV “…have all the notability of the coat rack at your local barber shop.” And she’s right.

As for the prospect of substantial local programming on WOCV’s main channel, I highly doubt that will ever happen. Weigel bought it to relay their diginets on a full-time basis and that’s the case throughout their entire chain (yes, their flagship is Chicago’s CW affiliate and they own Milwaukee’s CBS affiliate and South Bend’s ABC affiliate, but that’s it). I doubt WOCV even has a main studio, the FCC requirement for it no longer exists.
 
It’s funny because I was talking with @Sammi Brie elsewhere yesterday about HC2’s station group and if their stations deserve their own Wikipedia articles (instead of being listed on HC2’s page). As she put it to me, stations like WQDI/KONV “…have all the notability of the coat rack at your local barber shop.” And she’s right.

As for the prospect of substantial local programming on WOCV’s main channel, I highly doubt that will ever happen. Weigel bought it to relay their diginets on a full-time basis and that’s the case throughout their entire chain (yes, their flagship is Chicago’s CW affiliate and they own Milwaukee’s CBS affiliate and South Bend’s ABC affiliate, but that’s it). I doubt WOCV even has a main studio, the FCC requirement for it no longer exists.
At least Channel 35 (WOCV) is broadcasting something besides shoppers networks for carriage fees. Decades (on 35.1) is a very enjoyable network and 35.2 Story Channel has some nice programming.
 
Maybe Retro will pop up somewhere. Their programming wasn't great, but they did have a few interesting shows.
I contacted Retro a few months ago and asked them if they would be returning to Cleveland. I never received a reply.
 
WQDI-LD still on the air but with severe satellite breakup on all of their channels. Going on for at least two weeks. Hello? Anybody home?
Its likely that there’s no one. A station like WQDI needs no local staff outside of a contract engineer, even if they bother to go that far.

This is the same company that has a templated legal ID slide made in PowerPoint for all their stations inserted crudely and without care, like they’re literally programmed via a lamptimer:

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Always love it when the hosts on HSN or QVC make an Intel Celeron with 4 GB of RAM laptop sound like it's the best thing that you can currently buy. I've also seen numinous electronics on air that just scream cheap.
Oh Oh. You're getting close by actually hanging around long enough to see exactly what they were selling, plus the indication that you watch more than one of these networks.
 
This is the same company that has a templated legal ID slide made in PowerPoint for all their stations inserted crudely and without care, like they’re literally programmed via a lamptimer:
Apparently it's too hard for them to put some sort of overlay on the screen without interrupting programming, and on some of their stations here in Cleveland, it's not even timed correctly to appear at the top of the hour. WUEK-LD goes off at 53 minutes past the hour, and KONV-LD at 11 or so minutes. When one or more of their stations are down, they go into maintenance mode (as I call it) and constantly display the ID card.

You're examples are from before DTV America merged with HC2 Broadcasting. I see the "globe" ID on all their stations now, and even though it's a static image, the video compression still has problems trying to maintain itself. Back in 2017, WEKA-LD was very problematic reception wise, even at their licensed 5 kW of power. A joke came about that their call letters should be rearranged to WEAK-LD. I ended up photo-shopping their ID as a result...

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The shoppers networks pay for the airtime, so there must be some kind of record of payment. Possibly it is a lump payment to the license holder for shoppers network carriage on all of their stations everywhere, as several of these low power stations across the country tend to be owned by the same company (or divisions of the same company) as cheap revenue sources without any concern about viewership, technical quality or even if the damn station is off the air for days or even weeks.
 
I'm pretty sure most LPTV carriage of shopping networks doesn't involve cash changing hands for actual carriage. The networks track purchases by zip codes and specific 800 numbers and pay the LPTV carriers a cut of their sales revenue depending on where they get orders from. It's basically full-time PI advertising.

And so if LPTV owners don't keep their signals operating, there are no orders coming in and thus no revenue from which to take a cut.
 
Interesting. I do see some of the same shoppers networks carried at the same time by different LPTVs in the same city, but most likely these are LPTVs which are owned by the same outfit, therefore increasing the chances of getting a cut due to more potential viewers.
 
Interesting. I do see some of the same shoppers networks carried at the same time by different LPTVs in the same city, but most likely these are LPTVs which are owned by the same outfit, therefore increasing the chances of getting a cut due to more potential viewers.
What's the cut of 0% of viewers?
 
What's the cut of 0% of viewers?
Does it matter when direct responses can come from other places around the country and they make money anyway?

Networks like "Magnificent Movies Network" (whose film library is magnificently bad), "Timeless TV" or "Classic Reruns TV" run moldy oldies and public domain titles with zero overhead. Throw in a good helping of infomercials and they have nothing to lose. Shop LC and ShopHQ turn good profits with modest budgets, airing them on a little-watched low-power channel with no history and no visibility is a bonus.

As an aside, the Wikipedia articles of WQDI and WEKA are among a set of 142 that I helped nominate for deletion in favor of redirects to this list of Innovate Corp. stations.
 
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