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Expected format flips in the next few months?

michael hagerty said:
There might be a tax write-off for donating it to the Don Edwards Wildlife Refuge.
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The birds and the fish thank you!

And the "error screen" from my website thanks you...

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KGO following the 1989 seismic event.
 
DavidEduardo said:
And the "error screen" from my website thanks you...

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KGO following the 1989 seismic event.
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Except for a relatively brief interruption, I think KGO-TV (channel 7) was among the very few stations that was still on the air that day.

I'm not sure if KGO 810 was on the air in any meaningful capacity, but judging by the condition of those towers, I sort of doubt it.

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Did anyone record any airchecks of local radio coverage of Loma Prieta?

I've tried looking around online, but I haven't found anything.

c
 
cc333 said:
Did anyone record any airchecks of local radio coverage of Loma Prieta?

I've tried looking around online, but I haven't found anything.

c
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Closest thing I've ever found is KFBK, Sacramento---aircheck starts before the quake and we hear the first word, the anchor reaction and them sending both their traffic plane and a reporter, Gregg Fishman (who later worked at KGO) to the Bay Area:

https://pastdaily.com/2022/10/17/earthquake-october-17-1989/
 
DavidEduardo said:
One does not work because it aged out while, at the same time, interest in instrumental music nearly disappeared. Smooth Jazz was killed by the change in ratings systems.

If you actually look at the data, usage of radio by age group is not terribly different between non-Hispanic whites, Hispanics and Blacks. African Americans tend to listen more to "regular" radio than the other groups but the differences are not astoundingly large.

Oh, and if you are referring to Hispanics in your moderately racist comment, you should know that in nearly every market except Miami, more than half of all Hispanics are English dominant and thus, very likely, legal residents or citizens. In fact, in markets like San Antonio, over 85% of Hispanics are English dominant... many have families that have likely been in the US longer than yours has.


Smooth jazz is a valid streaming format. It failed in OTA commercial radio because the PPM revealed that it had a very narrow cume. In the new ratings methodology, no "phantom cume" appeared, although it did in nearly every other format. So the format had no cume growth, and, like all stations, TSL was shown to be vastly less than demonstrated in the diary.

Beautiful Music had no party affiliation. Interest in instrumentals and softer music died, in general, as the 80's progressed. The format lost any and all 25-54 appeal, and thus it could not attract adveertisers.
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Woke much? Lmfao. Yeah if you want a cop out and call people racist, you might want to reserve that one if and when they actually mention race. Jump the gun a bit now didn't we?
Needless to say, if you have a bias against some group of Americans I can't help you with that.
I stand by my words, not whatever that is you have added or imagined, but I wish you all the best in working whatever that is out.

I welcome debate on the words that I type anytime. It's rather insulting to the person that you do it to, and silly on your part to add words that are not there or make determinations that could never objectively be concluded from the text that you are replying to.
 
DOB said:
I stand by my words, not whatever that is you have added or imagined, but I wish you all the best in working whatever that is out.
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Except that you're wrong. You imagine a world where radio's audience is either old or immigrant, and neither of that will matter if all of the radio stations are owned by various religious groups who flip the stations to some form of non-com religion. If there's any trend that's on the rise in radio right now, that's it. So get ready to say "Amen."
 
michael hagerty said:
Closest thing I've ever found is KFBK, Sacramento---aircheck starts before the quake and we hear the first word, the anchor reaction and them sending both their traffic plane and a reporter, Gregg Fishman (who later worked at KGO) to the Bay Area:

https://pastdaily.com/2022/10/17/earthquake-october-17-1989/
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That is gut-wrenching to listen to after all this time (a third of a century last month!). I could only take 20 minutes of it. I was in Santa Clara when it hit, about 20 miles north of Loma Prieta, finishing up at work (across the street from where Levi's Stadium is now). My wife worked in downtown San Jose, a few miles closer to the epicenter. Fun night trying to rendezvous, get back up the Peninsula, and then calm down the family back in New York. Thanks for that trip down misery lane.

I can confirm what PTBoardOp said, KGO did manage to get back on air on reduced (10Kw?) power later that evening. Back then their transmitter site was staffed 24-7, and the transmitter supervisor knew his stuff. (I got to meet him once, wish I could remember his name.) So he/they jury-rigged a limited non-directional signal from the one tower that didn't snap, got back on-air to cover the story, and then applied for an STA from the FCC later.
 
DOB said:
Woke much? Lmfao. Yeah if you want a cop out and call people racist, you might want to reserve that one if and when they actually mention race. Jump the gun a bit now didn't we?
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Saying that certain ethnic stations are listened to only by illegal immigrants is very definitely racist.
DOB said:
Needless to say, if you have a bias against some group of Americans I can't help you with that.
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No idea here as to what you mean by that.
DOB said:
I stand by my words, not whatever that is you have added or imagined, but I wish you all the best in working whatever that is out.
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Idem.
DOB said:
I welcome debate on the words that I type anytime. It's rather insulting to the person that you do it to, and silly on your part to add words that are not there or make determinations that could never objectively be concluded from the text that you are replying to.
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Your statement was "And, in a few years when radio reworks their strategy and realize that all they have left are old people, and poor first generation non citizen Americans," and that is offensive to me and to all the people I have worked with at stations that serve audiences who prefer their entertainment and news and information in Spanish.

Sidebar: While this is a really a "dictionary debate", it could be said that "first generation non-citizen Americans" is, at best an oxymoron and at worst just ignorant.

An "American" in English is generally accepted to be a "Born in the U-S-A" person. A Latin American is an "americano" or "americana" but in Spanish. So an "American" can not also be a non-citizen. And "first generation" is the term for immigrants born elsewhere who have emigrated to the USA.
 
michael hagerty said:
Closest thing I've ever found is KFBK, Sacramento---aircheck starts before the quake and we hear the first word, the anchor reaction and them sending both their traffic plane and a reporter, Gregg Fishman (who later worked at KGO) to the Bay Area:

https://pastdaily.com/2022/10/17/earthquake-october-17-1989/
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Today, they have no plane, no reporters on the street. And no San Francisco station has staff at the transmitter to "recover" after some kind of quake damage.
 
Weiserguy said:
That is gut-wrenching to listen to after all this time (a third of a century last month!). I could only take 20 minutes of it. I was in Santa Clara when it hit, about 20 miles north of Loma Prieta, finishing up at work (across the street from where Levi's Stadium is now). My wife worked in downtown San Jose, a few miles closer to the epicenter. Fun night trying to rendezvous, get back up the Peninsula, and then calm down the family back in New York. Thanks for that trip down misery lane.

I can confirm what PTBoardOp said, KGO did manage to get back on air on reduced (10Kw?) power later that evening. Back then their transmitter site was staffed 24-7, and the transmitter supervisor knew his stuff. (I got to meet him once, wish I could remember his name.) So he/they jury-rigged a limited non-directional signal from the one tower that didn't snap, got back on-air to cover the story, and then applied for an STA from the FCC later.
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What gets me every time is Dave Williams' genuinely shocked "NO!" when he first gets word that part of the Bay Bridge has collapsed.
 
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