St. George, UT (April 9, 2006)

[TR1968]

from The Daily Spectrum via Newspapers.com
* Encore, HBO, Cinemax, Showtime and The Movie Channel were also carried; their channels were not mentioned in the converter guide

Charter
2 KUTV-CBS Salt Lake City
3 KVBC-NBC Las Vegas
4 KTVX-ABC Salt Lake City
5 KSL-NBC Salt Lake City
6 KCSG-Pax Cedar City
7 KUED-PBS Salt Lake City
8 KPNZ-UPN Ogden
9 QVC
10 TV Guide Channel
11 KBYU-PBS Provo
12 KUWB-WB Salt Lake City
13 KSTU-Fox Salt Lake City
14 KJZZ-UPN Salt Lake City
15 Local Access
16 HSN
17 WGN
18 BYU TV
19 PIN
20 KTNV-ABC Las Vegas (listed as KVBT)
21 Univision
22 St. George Community Education
23 MTV
24 Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
25 Lifetime
26 VH1
27 ABC Family
28 ESPN2
29 ESPN
30 TLC
31 CMT
32 FX
33 Discovery Channel
34 AMC
35 USA Network
36 Golf Channel
37 CNBC
38 C-SPAN2
39 TV Food Network
40 MSNBC
41 CNN
42 A&E
43 TBS
44 Spike TV
45 CNN Headline News
46 TNT
47 History Channel
48 Cartoon Network
49 Travel Channel
50 Weather Channel
51 SpeedVision
52 GSN
53 TechTV
54 Animal Planet
55 OLN
56 Sci-Fi Channel
57 HGTV
58 TV Land
59 Fox News Channel
60 Fox Movie Channel
61 Inspirational Network
62 Court TV
63 Fit TV
64 Galavision
65 Oxygen
66 SoapNet
67 Toon Disney
68 Disney Channel
69 Turner Classic Movies
70 Bravo
71 National Geographic Channel
72 Hallmark Channel
74 EWTN
76 Comedy Central
77 WE
78 Nickelodeon
96 C-SPAN
97 E!

SkyView
1 BYU TV
2 KUTV-CBS Salt Lake City
3 KVBC-NBC Las Vegas
4 KTVX-ABC Salt Lake City
5 KSL-NBC Salt Lake City
6 KCSG-Pax Cedar City
7 KUED-PBS Salt Lake City
8 WGN
9 ESPN
10 ESPN1
11 KBYU-PBS Provo
12 TBS
13 KSTU-Fox Salt Lake City
14 KJZZ-UPN Salt Lake City
15 KPNZ-UPN Ogden
16 KUWB-WB Salt Lake City
17 Discovery Channel
18 Animal Planet
23 History Channel
25 St. George Community Education
26 Travel Channel
28 Lifetime
32 Disney Channel
33 Toon Disney
34 Nickelodeon
35 TV Land
41 Fit TV
44 AMC
57 CNN
58 CNN Headline News
63 Fox News Channel
64 CNBC
65 TechTV
66 Sci-Fi Channel
67 USA Network
71 TNT
72 A&E
77 Spike TV
78 SpeedVision
79 OLN
81 Golf Channel
85 Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
92 GSN
93 Fox Movie Channel
96 National Geographic Channel
100 Turner Classic Movies
152 Inspirational Network

Bresnan
2 KUTV-CBS Salt Lake City
4 KTVX-ABC Salt Lake City
5 KSL-NBC Salt Lake City
6 KCSG-Pax Cedar City
7 KUED-PBS Salt Lake City
8 KSTU-Fox Salt Lake City
10 WGN
11 KBYU-PBS Provo
14 C-SPAN
16 C-SPAN2
18 TBS
19 HSN
20 KUWB-WB Salt Lake City
22 KJZZ-UPN Salt Lake City
23 ABC Family
27 AMC
28 Weather Channel
29 CNN
30 Discovery Channel
31 USA Network
32 Nickelodeon
33 Fox Sports Rocky Mountain
34 Disney Channel
35 ESPN
36 ESPN2
37 MSNBC
38 MTV
40 Lifetime
41 Animal Planet
42 Travel Channel
43 TLC
44 Comedy Central
45 Cartoon Network
46 E!
47 TV Land
48 Court TV
49 Hallmark Channel
50 VH1
51 TNT
52 Fox News Channel
53 FX
54 TV Food Network
57 Sci-Fi Channel
58 History Channel
59 HGTV
60 CNBC
61 Inspirational Network
62 Spike TV
63 TNT
64 QVC
65 TV Guide Channel
122 Toon Disney
161 GSN
180 Bravo
201 Golf Channel
273 National Geographic Channel
294 TechTV
404 OLN
407 SpeedVision
502 WE
506 Fox Movie Channel

 

[Gregg.]

I was looking at the Charter cable line up. I wonder why the system carries KVBC Channel 3 NBC Las Vegas among all the Salt Lake City stations at the beginning of the dial? And it carries one other Las Vegas station, KTNV 13, the ABC station. It is seen up at Channel 20. And that's it for Las Vegas.

So how does KVBC rate getting on Channel 3? Is its tower north of Las Vegas so it comes in over the air in St. George? No space for CBS 8 KLAS? Or the independent station once owned by Johnny Carson, Channel 5 KVVU? Or Las Vegas' PBS outlet Channel 10 KLVX?

And the cable system also skipped carrying Channel 9 KUEN Salt Lake City. It runs all educational shows. Even though it was on VHF, I guess Charter could ignore it.

 

[TR1968]

From older editions of the Spectrum, it appears that KVBC once had a translator in St. George; not sure about KTNV. Back in the late 90s, the paper also carried listings for KLVX and Denver's Big 3 affiliates.

(edit) SkyView ch 10 should read ESPN2.

 

[IM42A]

Las Vegas is far closer to St George than SLC is, but the SLC stations get into every corner of Utah via a large network of translators which were "daisy-chained" throughout the entire state. There is no place in Utah, unless it would be the Four Corners area near Farmington and Durango, or the eastern border area near Grand Junction, where it is even possible to get full-power out-of-state stations. Utah is a very culturally homogeneous state due mostly to the historic influence of the LDS church and the culture that sprang from it, and the Wasatch Corridor is the only heavily-populated part of the state (though St George is getting there due to the influx of migrants from other states). The SLC TV market, and its translator network, abruptly stops at the Arizona border, where Phoenix stations dominate even though they are as far from places such as Page as the SLC stations are.

Just out of curiosity, since the digital conversion and the ability to get SLC stations via satellite, does the SLC "daisy-chain" still exist, or are all translators programmed via satellite? The daisy-chain was kind of Rube Goldberg-ish, translators upstream feeding translators downstream, lather, rinse, repeat, but add to that, it worked. SLC stations reached a vast swath of the Mountain West back in the day, getting as far as North Dakota (!) via microwave.

 

[ftballfan]

Las Vegas is far closer to St George than SLC is, but the SLC stations get into every corner of Utah via a large network of translators which were "daisy-chained" throughout the entire state. There is no place in Utah, unless it would be the Four Corners area near Farmington and Durango, or the eastern border area near Grand Junction, where it is even possible to get full-power out-of-state stations. Utah is a very culturally homogeneous state due mostly to the historic influence of the LDS church and the culture that sprang from it, and the Wasatch Corridor is the only heavily-populated part of the state (though St George is getting there due to the influx of migrants from other states). The SLC TV market, and its translator network, abruptly stops at the Arizona border, where Phoenix stations dominate even though they are as far from places such as Page as the SLC stations are.

Just out of curiosity, since the digital conversion and the ability to get SLC stations via satellite, does the SLC "daisy-chain" still exist, or are all translators programmed via satellite? The daisy-chain was kind of Rube Goldberg-ish, translators upstream feeding translators downstream, lather, rinse, repeat, but add to that, it worked. SLC stations reached a vast swath of the Mountain West back in the day, getting as far as North Dakota (!) via microwave.

Also add in that Las Vegas is in the Pacific Time Zone while St. George is in the Mountain Time Zone. In addition, if St. George was its current size in the 1950s or 1960s, it could have easily become its own market

 

[IM42A]

Also add in that Las Vegas is in the Pacific Time Zone while St. George is in the Mountain Time Zone. In addition, if St. George was its current size in the 1950s or 1960s, it could have easily become its own market

I didn't think of the time zones. This would have the effect of time-shifting Las Vegas network programming two hours after it's aired in the MTZ, i.e., if PTZ network prime time is from 8 pm to 11 pm, that would be 9 pm to midnight MTZ, and MTZ network stations typically run prime time from 7 pm to 10 pm, the same schedule as in the Central Time Zone.

Both of the MTZ's boundaries, both east and west, are so lightly populated, that viewers affected by getting their TV from a different time zone, with a different prime time pattern, would probably number in no more than the tens of thousands total. It's not like on the more densely populated western edge of the Eastern Time Zone, where markets such as Panama City, Columbus (GA), Atlanta, Chattanooga, Louisville, Evansville, and Terre Haute spill across time zone boundaries. Granted, those are not massive numbers either, but there is also out-of-market viewership to consider. With ETZ prime time running 8-11 pm, and CTZ prime time being 7-10 pm, it's not even perceptible to viewers in the "wrong" time zone unless they're paying attention to programming promos or hearing "WRBL 3 News, the 11:00 edition" when it's only 10 pm on the Alabama side. For people living near time zone boundaries, it's just part of life, something they've always just "worked around" if they've lived there for their entire lives.

IIRC, I think TV Guide, back when they did regional editions, basically obeyed time zone boundaries, with only the random county here or there getting the "wrong" time in the edition sold in their town or sent to their home.