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The Breeze 93.3 FM/1440 AM on Long Island Being Sold

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The soft A/C station will be sold to JVC Media for $500,000. The Breeze consists of WLIM 1440 AM, and a translator located near Stony Brook, on 93.3 FM. I recall reading that the current owner picked up WLIM about 2 years ago, for around $20,000. I don't know what was paid for the translator.
I have listened from time to time to its rather eclectic playlist. It is unclear whether JVC, which owns a few other stations on Long Island, will make significant changes to the programming.
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Theater of My Mind said:
JVC overpaid.
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Maybe not. I believe that JVC is a rather savvy station owner.
RadioInsight stated they are likely to retain the station's current format. As there are no local personalities, it is probably inexpensive to run. And there is a decent amount of local businesses which have been advertising on The Breeze for quite some time.
 
Been puzzling me for a few years now -- the 1440 CE was a pal of mine -- how an omni 1440 station could move from Babylon to broadcast anew with 10000 omni watts* in Patchogue, right across Long Island Sound from omni 1450 in Bridgeport. The two towers have to be 25 miles apart.
Perhaps the FCC and the engineers disregard water-path signals in their contour calculations ? After all, the chief contributing clash *is* just water, with no listeners.
And as well, 1000-watt WCUM Bridgeport's red contour crashes into Long Island's north shore while 10,000-watt WNYG's main signal doesn't even reach the Sound.

* 10,000 watts say Radio-Locator, NF8M and the FCC.info sites
 
Steve Green NEPA said:
Been puzzling me for a few years now -- the 1440 CE was a pal of mine -- how an omni 1440 station could move from Babylon to broadcast anew with 10000 omni watts* in Patchogue, right across Long Island Sound from omni 1450 in Bridgeport. The two towers have to be 25 miles apart.
Perhaps the FCC and the engineers disregard water-path signals in their contour calculations ? After all, the chief contributing clash *is* just water, with no listeners.
And as well, 1000-watt WCUM Bridgeport's red contour crashes into Long Island's north shore while 10,000-watt WNYG's main signal doesn't even reach the Sound.

* 10,000 watts say Radio-Locator, NF8M and the FCC.info sites
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You've got 1440 and 1580 mixed up. 1580 WNYG is 10,000 watts, 1440 WLIM is 1,000 watts. Neither are on the north shore of Long Island.
 
jlehmann said:
You've got 1440 and 1580 mixed up. 1580 WNYG is 10,000 watts, 1440 WLIM is 1,000 watts. Neither are on the north shore of Long Island.
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How could WNYG ever have gotten licensed to Patchogue on 1580 at 10KW when WFME (the old WQXR) is licensed to 1560 at 50KW? (Regardless of WFME's current situation, that's still their allocated power and pattern.) That seems like a ton of overlap for stations only 20 khz away.
 
Weiserguy said:
How could WNYG ever have gotten licensed to Patchogue on 1580 at 10KW when WFME (the old WQXR) is licensed to 1560 at 50KW? (Regardless of WFME's current situation, that's still their allocated power and pattern.) That seems like a ton of overlap for stations only 20 khz away.
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Most nations of the world, and all the ones in this Hemisphere to the south of us license full power stations in the same market every 20 kHz on the AM dial. Example: Mexico City on 690, 710 and 730. Or Quito, Ecuador on 550, 570, 590, 610. None of those had any problem.

In the case of 1560 and 1580, they are were over 40 miles apart over a piece of land that has about the worst ground conductivity in the country; Long Island is a large sand bar and signals go there to die.

Neither station's FCC overlaps for second adjacent signals were ever even close due to conductivity.

While conductivity is greater and power is lower, 1480 in Santa Ana, CA and 1460 in Inglewood are just 30 miles apart. We could start naming hundreds of such close assignments that are limited by power, antenna and ground conductivity.
 
WNYG is owned by Spanish Christian broadcaster Radio Cantico. They seem to have made a specialty out of buying (and sometimes selling) crappy AM facilities in the area, such as WJDM.
 
Thanx for the re-arrangement of the calls, folks. As JLehmann suggests, there was some confusion on my part -- even with me having worked for both 1440 and 1580 out there some time back!
I feel my rickety question still stands, though. How did two omni signals, each 1000 watts, 25 miles apart, wind up being approved one frequency removed? Was waterpath disregarded by the FCC as an unlegislateable act of God ? After all, those Connecticut stations thunder onto Long Island, and vice-versa. Was grrim consideration of Long Island's horrific ground conductivity an element in 1440's approval ?

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(Somewhat O/T, but long ago, 1580 Patchogue and 1570 Riverhead were co-owned -- Adams-Getchall Broadcasting. Both facilities were daytime-ony. 1580 was 10000 omni day, and kid sister 1570 (in what our snooty PD called River{blink}) was directional East.
1570 basically sent NOTHING west of the Riverhead traffic circle. Half us 1580 employees figured the signal was to guard 1580 ; half thought it was to protect the more distant but co-linear WQXR 1560. Yet, on an analog car radio along the William Floyd Paryway one could tune to 1575 and hear an echo during the simulcasted American Information News .
In more recent times, all of them --1440, 1570 and 1580 -- got nighttime licenses.)
 
Steve Green NEPA said:
Thanx for the re-arrangement of the calls, folks. As JLehmann suggests, there was some confusion on my part -- even with me having worked for both 1440 and 1580 out there some time back!
I feel my rickety question still stands, though. How did two omni signals, each 1000 watts, 25 miles apart, wind up being approved one frequency removed? Was waterpath disregarded by the FCC as an unlegislateable act of God ? After all, those Connecticut stations thunder onto Long Island, and vice-versa. Was grrim consideration of Long Island's horrific ground conductivity an element in 1440's approval ?

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(Somewhat O/T, but long ago, 1580 Patchogue and 1570 Riverhead were co-owned -- Adams-Getchall Broadcasting. Both facilities were daytime-ony. 1580 was 10000 omni day, and kid sister 1570 (in what our snooty PD called River{blink}) was directional East.
1570 basically sent NOTHING west of the Riverhead traffic circle. Half us 1580 employees figured the signal was to guard 1580 ; half thought it was to protect the more distant but co-linear WQXR 1560. Yet, on an analog car radio along the William Floyd Paryway one could tune to 1575 and hear an echo during the simulcasted American Information News .
In more recent times, all of them --1440, 1570 and 1580 -- got nighttime licenses.)
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Similar to how WWSK and WYBC were approved. The 60 dBu contours overlap over the sound.
 
The sale of WLIM 1440 AM and its translator on 93.3 FM to JVC Broadcasting has closed. According to Radio Ink, JVC is temporarily using the combo to rebroadcast its oldies format, which airs on 98.1 FM on Long Island.
The article states that 93.3/1440 will eventually get its own, unspecified programming.
Any guesses as to what that may be?

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Any other ethnic groups in that part of Long Island that have significant enough representation in the local population not being served/under served by local radio?
 
What is the population within the coverage area of that translator? Isn't that part of Long Island predominantly White non-Hispanic...like over 80 percent?
 
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