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Does 95.7 the Vibe have a future?

It feels like for at least the past half decade at least its ratings have been abysmal. It seems like it has a rimshot signal which might make it okay to Cumulus, but there have been poor programming moves by Cumulus. It seems to appeal to a younger crowd than Mix or The Point. Your thoughts?
 
Cumulus only has two good FM signals in the market, and they together represent over $9 million in billing.

But the two main operators, MGTF and Audacy, have 28% and 38% of all market revenue and Cumulus only has 20%. the Vibe, X and KMJK bill under a million annually. They likely make money, but are just not competitive signals.
 
Cumulus only has two good FM signals in the market, and they together represent over $9 million in billing.

But the two main operators, MGTF and Audacy, have 28% and 38% of all market revenue and Cumulus only has 20%. the Vibe, X and KMJK bill under a million annually. They likely make money, but are just not competitive signals.
I thought KCJK (X105.1) was a full-powered signal?
 
It is, actually. It's a C1 but with an antenna height above 300m, which is why it had to de-rate. But the site is near most of the other KC FMs, in the Blue Summit area between Kansas City and Independence, and should cover the metro just fine. It's also the transmitter site for KSMO-TV. KCJK was a drop-in, requiring St. Joseph's KKJO to move from 105.1 to 105.5. KKJO got a nice new shiny tower and site out of the deal.

KCHZ and KMJK are more problematic as signals go. That 107.3 signal always has had challenges in the urban core. I doubted moving the transmitter site from Odessa to south of Buckner was going to solve all those problems (it might solve some). The non-comm KTBG (90.9) has many of the same problems.
 
I wouldn't expect KCHZ to do anything differently. It probably peels enough people away from KMXV, KPRS and KZPT to make it worthwhile. The signal will always be a problem. It's a two-time mover, from small-town rock station, to Topeka-focused adult contemporary, to two long periods of silence, to where it is today. I live in Johnson County, Kansas, and I can still find gaps in KCHZ's reception.

105.1 signal is fine. Programming-wise, think of it as an extension of KCFX. Where the Fox ends, X begins, with slight overlap.
 
I wouldn't expect KCHZ to do anything differently. It probably peels enough people away from KMXV, KPRS and KZPT to make it worthwhile. The signal will always be a problem. It's a two-time mover, from small-town rock station, to Topeka-focused adult contemporary, to two long periods of silence, to where it is today. I live in Johnson County, Kansas, and I can still find gaps in KCHZ's reception.

105.1 signal is fine. Programming-wise, think of it as an extension of KCFX. Where the Fox ends, X begins, with slight overlap.
I wonder how much longer 105.1 has. Their alternative format lasted 3 years, 4 months with higher ratings and this format has been going 3 1/2 years with lower ratings. Afentra was probably more expensive, though.
 
I thought KCJK (X105.1) was a full-powered signal?
One thing is full power, another is being a rimshot. The station is a C1, 72 kw at 1135 feet from well east of central Kansas City. It misses a big portion of the Kansas population of the metro.
 
One thing is full power, another is being a rimshot. The station is a C1, 72 kw at 1135 feet from well east of central Kansas City. It misses a big portion of the Kansas population of the metro.
It's between Kansas City and Independence. That's not "well east of central Kansas City". There are other FM sites in the area, known as Blue Summit, including C1s. For example, WDAF-FM (which is a C1) is just 1.4 miles away from the KCJK site.

To look at it another way, the KCJK transmitter site is located 5.8 miles almost due east of Kansas City's City Hall, which is on the east side of downtown. The WDAF-FM site is 5.3 miles away from City Hall.

City grade coverage (70 dbu) makes it to west of DeSoto, almost to Eudora. It might miss a little of Johnson County, Kansas, but not much. It also has city grade coverage of Leavenworth.

This could be considered a move-in for reasons I described upthread, but it's not a rimshot.
 
One thing is full power, another is being a rimshot. The station is a C1, 72 kw at 1135 feet from well east of central Kansas City. It misses a big portion of the Kansas population of the metro.
You might be thinking of KMJK. Their tower is about 25-30 miles east of the state line, about 10-15 miles further east of the main antenna farm in/around Blue Summit. KCJK’s transmitter is on the northern end of that farm.
 
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95.7 has been CHR/Top-40 for almost 25 years, and Cumulus has owned it for about 20. Not that longtime stations don't occasionally leave their formats, but I'd be surprised if it goes anywhere.

KCJK isn't a deficient signal in any significant way, shape or form. It might not be quite as good as 94.9 and 101.1, but it's very similar. I would think it would be in greater danger of a format change than 95.7. Cumulus is supposedly interested in expanding the classic alternative format it's airing on 99X. If that's the case, 105.1 might be a decent fit for it, though the 99X playlist overlaps a fair portion of many classic hits stations, which could be a problem for 94.9 KCMO.
 
It's between Kansas City and Independence. That's not "well east of central Kansas City". There are other FM sites in the area, known as Blue Summit, including C1s. For example, WDAF-FM (which is a C1) is just 1.4 miles away from the KCJK site.
It is far east of the center of the market population. It only puts a 70 dbu over about the eastern 1/5th of Wyandotte and a tiny, tiny NE corner of Johnson County. The 65 dbu, wjhere 95% of the at home and at work listening occurs, only cover a third of Wyandotte and about a tenth of Johnson. It totally misses Miami and Leavenworth counties in Kansas, both are in the MSA.

It also misses have of Clay, all of Cass and all of Ray and Lafayette Counties with the 65 dbu.
To look at it another way, the KCJK transmitter site is located 5.8 miles almost due east of Kansas City's City Hall, which is on the east side of downtown. The WDAF-FM site is 5.3 miles away from City Hall.
Daffy is a full 100 kw and closer to the center of population.
City grade coverage (70 dbu) makes it to west of DeSoto, almost to Eudora. It might miss a little of Johnson County, Kansas, but not much. It also has city grade coverage of Leavenworth.

This could be considered a move-in for reasons I described upthread, but it's not a rimshot.
It is a partial signal. It misses about a third of the population on the 60 dbu, and even more on the 60 dbu.
 
It is far east of the center of the market population. It only puts a 70 dbu over about the eastern 1/5th of Wyandotte and a tiny, tiny NE corner of Johnson County. The 65 dbu, wjhere 95% of the at home and at work listening occurs, only cover a third of Wyandotte and about a tenth of Johnson. It totally misses Miami and Leavenworth counties in Kansas, both are in the MSA.

You are looking at KMJK 107.3, not KCJK 105.1.
 
95.7 has been CHR/Top-40 for almost 25 years, and Cumulus has owned it for about 20. Not that longtime stations don't occasionally leave their formats, but I'd be surprised if it goes anywhere.

KCJK isn't a deficient signal in any significant way, shape or form. It might not be quite as good as 94.9 and 101.1, but it's very similar. I would think it would be in greater danger of a format change than 95.7. Cumulus is supposedly interested in expanding the classic alternative format it's airing on 99X. If that's the case, 105.1 might be a decent fit for it, though the 99X playlist overlaps a fair portion of many classic hits stations, which could be a problem for 94.9 KCMO.
Classic alt might be interesting!
 
Time for a couple of maps. These are derived from fccdata.org using the advanced mapping feature overlaid on OpenStreetMap. The first is a side-to-side comparison of WDAF-FM and KCJK(FM).coverage-comparison-1.jpeg
As can clearly be seen, the coverage areas are nearly identical with only minor variations. Local-grade coverage extends to Lawrence, Kansas; Warrensburg, Mo.; and nearly to St. Joseph, Mo. Roughly due north of the transmitter sites is a blue splotch which is Smithville Reservoir. It extends from Clay County northward into Clinton County. This, plus reach to the northeast, indicates that city-grade coverage reaches all of Clay County. The next map compares KMJK(FM) to the left with KCJK(FM) on the right. Since we have clearly demonstrated that WDAF-FM's coverage and KCJK(FM)'s coverage areas are close to identical, we can compare KMJK against KCJK only, in hopes of clearing up the confusion between the stations.
coverage-comparison-2.jpeg
Here, the picture is clearly different. The KMJK transmitter site is just over the Jackson-Lafayette County line, near Napoleon, Mo. This is actually closer to the center of the metro than its previous site near Odessa, Mo., built in the late 1980s, but the station had a higher antenna at that time. It still had coverage problems then, and the new site doesn't seem to be that much of an improvement. The Kansas side of the metro area is likely to have weaker reception for KMJK than the Missouri side. Even a local-grade signal doesn't cover the western fringes of the metro. KCJK, on the other hand, should have no problems. - The only thing KMJK and KCJK have in common are their ownership.
 
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