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Let's watch everyone lose their minds. KRTH is playing...

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My Mom was born in 1936, I was born in 1956 but my first child was born in 1986, so I guess I was 10 years late in that reproducing thing.

Some commentators sub-divide the Boomers into leading-edge boomers (children of World War II vets) and Generation Jones (children of "Silent Generation" parents) born between 1954 and 1965.

Classic example of how mileage may vary. You and I were born the same year.

If my family had been on the 20-year interval, my mom (like yours) would have been born in 1936, my grandmother in 1916 and my great-grandmother in 1896.

But my mom was born in 1922, my dad in 1917 and my grandmother in 1890.
 
Classic example of how mileage may vary. You and I were born the same year.

If my family had been on the 20-year interval, my mom (like yours) would have been born in 1936, my grandmother in 1916 and my great-grandmother in 1896.

But my mom was born in 1922, my dad in 1917 and my grandmother in 1890.
My grandmother was born in 1900, but my mother was adopted when she was 36 (or older). The adoption was a hush-hush family secret, my Mom went to her grave not knowing. (I had kind of wondered about the lack of family resemblance)
 
And, Semoochie, people don't have children at neat intervals.

My childhood best friend and I were born four days apart in the same city, lost our fathers the same month and our moms moved us to the same small town 270 miles away the same month. We met there.

Seemingly parallel lives. We lost touch when he went in the military but re-connected when we were 44.

I had two kids, ages eight and six.

He had seven kids, the oldest of whom was 22 and had already made him a grandfather.

The girl I walked in the processional with at my high school graduation was pregnant. Her first child is 20 years older than my younger child.
I used the term, "generally". The baby boom peaked in 1957. My kids are both Gen-X but most baby boomers waited to have kids and thus, their kids are "generally", Millennials. If they hadn't waited, there would be substantially more Gen-Xers.
 
I have worked in five of Top 10 major markets, including New York City, and none of the stations had generators. I'd love to see an actual statistic from the NAB or the DHS about the number of radio stations with generators. I bet it's not a majority.
I have to ask: how did radio stations (primarily AM) with studios in NYC stay on the air during the power outages
of 11/9-10/1965, 7/13-14/1977 and 8/14-15/2003? Plus Superstorm Sandy in October 2012?
[See Scott Fybush's logs from that time period: NERW 10/29/2012: Sandy Takes Aim at NERW-land (with Friday update) ]
Scott states in one sentence (from early morning Tue. 10/30/2012): "In New York, power outages in lower Manhattan have affected the Clear Channel cluster and the CBS Radio studios, which are running on generator power."

If I remember correctly many of the NYC FMs were off the air on some of these occasions when there was little or no power of any type available at the Empire State Building/WTC/alternate transmitter/tower sites.
 
I have to ask: how did radio stations (primarily AM) with studios in NYC stay on the air during the power outages
of 11/9-10/1965, 7/13-14/1977 and 8/14-15/2003? Plus Superstorm Sandy in October 2012?
[See Scott Fybush's logs from that time period: NERW 10/29/2012: Sandy Takes Aim at NERW-land (with Friday update) ]
Scott states in one sentence (from early morning Tue. 10/30/2012): "In New York, power outages in lower Manhattan have affected the Clear Channel cluster and the CBS Radio studios, which are running on generator power."

If I remember correctly many of the NYC FMs were off the air on some of these occasions when there was little or no power of any type available at the Empire State Building/WTC/alternate transmitter/tower sites.
 
I lived through the 1965 blackout. (I was a kid finishing up my paper route, and I noticed a weird glow from the hallway incandescent lights of the last few garden apartments on my route, but initially had no idea why. Then I rode home in near darkness, though fortunately there was just enough ambient light to navigate by, aided by the occasional car headlights.)

WABC back then still used records and turntables, and what you hear in the Dan Ingram clip is the TT motors slowing down as the line voltage fluctuates. But all their spots, jingles, etc. were carted, and the cart drives -- at least the model WABC used -- were built with hysteresis synchronous motors, which were less prone to wow and flutter from voltage fluctuations, so they rode out more of the early "brownout" phase of the blackout. But as the voltage went to zero, eventually everything died. WABC, to my recollection, did not have a generator in their studios at 1924 Broadway(?) on Manhattan's Upper West Side. Some months later, when they moved to the new ABC headquarters building at 1330 Avenue of the Americas, there would be a standby power.

By a quirk of the power grid, the blackout did not hit New Jersey, nor Staten Island (NYC's "fifth borough"), and most of the AM transmitters were in Jersey. So WABC remained on the air from Lodi NJ with it's 50 KW flamethrower and no programming to air. Reportedly, Ingram grabbed an armful of records and drove out to Lodi, where he broadcast through the night from an auxilliary studio that was either a standby or a cobbled-together jury-rig. But WABC was able to push through, getting updates from their newsroom by old-fashioned POTS lines.

Back in those days, FM was a ratings nonentity, so it probably didn't matter much that the buildings that housed transmitters (primarily the Empire State Building) were out and didn't have backup power. The other two network O&O's, WCBS and WNBC, both 50KW I-A's, which shared a diplexed tower on a tiny island off the Bronx coast (High Island, adjacent to City Island, if anyone cares), would have also lost Con Edison power. Not sure if they had a backup generator in 1965, but if not, they surely got equipped soon thereafter.

That left WMCA, WOR, WNYC, WPAT, WINS, WHN, WNEW, WQXR and WWRL. WQXR, WWRL and WNYC had their transmitters in various spots in Queens across the river, so they probably were also out. The rest were in various locations in Jersey, so their transmitters remained hot. But the only one of those stations I recall listening to that night was WMCA, which had a backup generator at their facility at 415 Madison Avenue, and after a short pause to get it fired up, ran through the night providing news, info and the occasional record, initially with "Good Guy" Dan Daniel hosting the emergency coverage. Over time other DJ's, news anchors and reporters, and talk show host Barry Gray joined the continuing coverage until power came back in the early morning.

WOR and WNEW also had fully staffed newsrooms, and I recall them eventually getting back on air to also provide coverage. But as a kid, WMCA and WABC were my go-to stations, so those are where I tuned that night and can speak to from memory. (Interesting note, 1010 WINS had changed format from Top40 R&R to All-News just eight months earlier, and the blackout was their first big test. They must have also had emergency power, because they were among the stations later lauded for their coverage.)

(I can't talk about either of the other blackouts. In 1977, I'd just taken off from JFK Airport for a business trip to San Francisco, so I was in a news cocoon when it happened and only found out when I got in my rental car at SFO and tuned to KFRC, and heard their evening jock mention it. By 2003, I had been living in the Bay Area for years. As to Sandy, Scott Fybush's writeup is your go-to source.)
 
By the way, one aspect of the blackouts that often gets missed when reminiscing was where the stations were located in their respective buildings. NYC is largely a vertical city in midtown and lower Manhattan. In 1965, WMCA was on the 13th floor of its building, so the staff had to walk down or up a dozen flights of stairs to get to or from street level. (I once lived on the 21st floor of an apartment building and can guarantee that your knees won't thank you after the experience.) For those at WOR it was even worse, as they were on the 24th floor (of 1440 Broadway). WCBS was on the 16th floor (of "Black Rock", 51 West 52nd). And even though the FM's (and possibly TV's) on Empire were off, the engineers at those stations were stuck, unless they wanted to walk down from the 83rd, 84th or 85th floors of the ESB. And nobody in their right mind was hiking up to those floors, so nobody was arriving to relieve them either..
 
"Oh my God, what in the hell are you playing KRTH!?"

"Don't you know what this will do to your ratings?"

"I mean, look----you're #2 in Los Angeles. A tenth of a point out of first place! The second-highest cume in the market---only 36,900 weekly listeners behind #1."

"Keep this up and you're likely to-----um----be number one?"
...which is exactly what happened:

Los Angeles, CA (#2)
SUBSCRIBER ONLY-NIELSEN AUDIO MARCH ’23 PPM 6+Mar 23
KRTH-FMClassic Hits5.8
KIIS-FMTop 40/M5.0
KBIG-FMHot AC4.5
KTWV-FMUrban AC4.4
KFI-AMTalk4.1
KLVE-FMSpanish Cont4.1
KOST-FMAC4.1
 
came here and say this: my work was listening to K-Earth today, and right after they said "70s, 80s and 90s", they played "Uptown Funk" . It was 2.37 in the afternoon 😂
 
came here and say this: my work was listening to K-Earth today, and right after they said "70s, 80s and 90s", they played "Uptown Funk" . It was 2.37 in the afternoon 😂
Many similar stations play that song. It's intentionally retro in its sound and appeals to the classic hits demographic. No need to treat it as an outlier or format-breaker on KRTH, slogan notwithstanding.
 
I wonder if "softer" new songs could work on a predominantly classic hits station well (John Mayer, Norah Jones, Sara Bareilles, James Blunt, Rob Thomas, ect.) Those would be newer, but less rhythmic and could appeal to the classic hits audience.
 
I wonder if "softer" new songs could work on a predominantly classic hits station well (John Mayer, Norah Jones, Sara Bareilles, James Blunt, Rob Thomas, ect.) Those would be newer, but less rhythmic and could appeal to the classic hits audience.
Bruno Mars also has some recent "retro" style music. "Leave the Door Open" and 'Skate" come to mind. Those are likely classic hits bound, especially "Door".

Even 2019 Doja Cat "Say So" and 2017 Calvin Harris "Feels" and Portugal's "Feel It Still" are worthy of a spin, if we're talking retro style songs.
 
Bruno Mars also has some recent "retro" style music. "Leave the Door Open" and 'Skate" come to mind. Those are likely classic hits bound, especially "Door".

Even 2019 Doja Cat "Say So" and 2017 Calvin Harris "Feels" and Portugal's "Feel It Still" are worthy of a spin, if we're talking retro style songs.
When I hear Doja Cat on any classic hits radio station, it’s time to listen to talk radio.
 
I wonder how long it would take fo totally change a station's sound? While some are more abrupt, how could youbdo it in a situation like this if you wanted it to be newer?
 
How is that? She is not even played on AC stations. So you're saying classic hits is heading in a "new hits" direction that is even rhythmic?
I'm saying that the time window between being a current and being played on a classic hits station appears to be accelerating. And c'mon---a chunk of what gets played on classic hits stations were CHR records, not AC.
 
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