Does KGHO-LP Hoquiam relay K225DC 92.9 South Bay? I heard 92.9 on the Northern Oregon Coast, sometimes fairly good with my Yagi antenna. How do I get in touch in the owner or operator of either KGHO-LP of the translator? The KGTK site shows a contact EMAIL listed, but it doesn't work. Tried calling KGTK and all I get is voice mail. No phone number or email for KGHO LP listed either. I would like to QSL the translator if I could. Brian Spencer used to operate KGTK. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.
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K225DC 92.9 (KGTK?) contact help appreciated.
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Isn't the parent FM KGHO-LP? Isn't that legal then, or can LPFM's have translators?
LPFM's can have up to 2 translators
The current 92.9 relay is not kosher if there are any cross-ownership ties between the LPFM licensee and translator owner, e.g. financial subsidies, etc.
K225DC's days are numbered anyway. Once KVNW 92.9 Napavine launches, the owner (Premier Broadcasters) can use the 45 dBu "translator-complaint zone" to force K225DC to relocate to another channel. As a minimum, K225DC's F(50,10) 40 dBu easily overlaps with KVNW's 60 dBu contour. The translator is toast.
K225DC's days are numbered anyway. Once KVNW 92.9 Napavine launches, the owner (Premier Broadcasters) can use the 45 dBu "translator-complaint zone" to force K225DC to relocate to another channel. As a minimum, K225DC's F(50,10) 40 dBu easily overlaps with KVNW's 60 dBu contour. The translator is toast.
The 92.9 FM translator is not operating within the FCC Rules and Regulations. The contour provided to the FCC is totally fabricated, the power output is in excess of authorized, signal monitoring equipment shows modulation far in excess of legal limits, it doesn't have an "originating station" (although there is one shown on the FCC license), the station doesn't provide a station call sign as required by regulations. Licensee is "Northwest Rock'n'Roll Preservation Society", which is a fictitious entity. A listening check of 92.9 on-air programming will show that 92.9 does NOT relay KGHO-LP, or anything else.
Legitimate broadcasters pay tens of thousands of dollars annually for FCC fees, music licensing to several licensing organizations, etc, and watch helplessly as a few bad apples, such as "Grays Harbor LPFM" and "Northwest Rock'n'Roll Preservation Society, be allowed to operate with impunity as the Commission does absolutely nothing about it.
Legitimate broadcasters pay tens of thousands of dollars annually for FCC fees, music licensing to several licensing organizations, etc, and watch helplessly as a few bad apples, such as "Grays Harbor LPFM" and "Northwest Rock'n'Roll Preservation Society, be allowed to operate with impunity as the Commission does absolutely nothing about it.
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Will KVNW even come on and when? So many CP's never materialize.
Apparently the FCC knows about the situation with the translator as there was contact them regarding the change in operation. Maybe the FCC doesn't care? They are really under-staffed anyway.
I like the Oldies format. They play songs I have not heard in years. They do not seem to stream, as far as I can tell. There is a Facebook page. The only one I can get here in 92.9 and even they vary in little from barely there to fair copy. I think they are listed as 100 watts.
I more than ever want a QSL out of them, before I can no longer hear them. I wonder what kind of signal KVNW will have on the Northern Oregon Coast?
Thanks for the feedback. I knew someone would be familiar with the operation.
Apparently the FCC knows about the situation with the translator as there was contact them regarding the change in operation. Maybe the FCC doesn't care? They are really under-staffed anyway.
I like the Oldies format. They play songs I have not heard in years. They do not seem to stream, as far as I can tell. There is a Facebook page. The only one I can get here in 92.9 and even they vary in little from barely there to fair copy. I think they are listed as 100 watts.
I more than ever want a QSL out of them, before I can no longer hear them. I wonder what kind of signal KVNW will have on the Northern Oregon Coast?
Thanks for the feedback. I knew someone would be familiar with the operation.
Wow! Sounds like there are a lot of violations there." The NW Rock n' Roll Preservation Society" has quite a following and a listing. https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_wa/603040929. I am going up to Aberdeen next weekend work related and I will check out 99.9 KGHO-LP if they are on the air. No sign of it here as KISW is too strong and only 30-40 degrees off from Hoquiam.
It doesn't surprise me about the FCC. All sorts of violations in Clatsop County with FM stations and some AMs too. The FCC has no staff. Back 50 years ago a lot of stations would have shut down. Thanks for the detailed info.
KGHO-LP is on the air on 99.9, the transmitter and antenna are located just within the city limits of Hoquiam. Knock on the door... there won't be an answer. Their FM translator at that same location is also on the air. As you drive west from the Olympia area, you'll find a good signal from 92.9, which is located on Capital Peak. Stop by our studios and say hello.
KGHO has had their fair share of technical issues over the years as well. I seem to recall that KISW was coming in loud and clear in Aberdeen a few years back. Not because KGHO was off the air, but because KHGO was relaying the KISW signal by mistake. I have no idea how that happens, because that would suggest that the tower on top of capital peak is the main feed. Nevertheless, I can’t think of many examples where something like this has happened.
Wait, I thought it was the other way around. KGHO was off the air so the translators were all relaying KISW. Am I wrong about that? This would have also been when KGHO was on 101.1 in Olympia, now relaying KGTK. With all the talk of KGHO on this board, does anyone have any airchecks? I've only gotten to hear them for a few minutes at a time and have liked what I've heard, but would like to hear a solid hour or more. I should have thought to record 92.9 when I was in that area a few weeks ago.
Perhaps one of the experts can enlighten us as to what actually happened. I assumed the issue started on capital peak, where KISW was being picked up and retransmitted to other KGHO LP’s.
KGHO-LP transmitter is physically located in Hoquiam, and signal checks show it not overpowered but over-modulating. The signal from the 150+ ft tower at ground level doesn't travel far. Any receivers in Olympia would not pick up 99.9 anyway, and that is not the method of transmission to the FM translators. There would be no reason to receive 99.9 from Hoquiam and send it to the translators, since there would be no signal from Hoquiam.
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Are the translators picking up 92.7 and relaying it to 104.1 Tacoma? I could hear 92.7 well up the north beach, to Pacific Beach and Moclips, but not very strong. Morning enhancement brought KNCU Newport OR mixing with them.
I thought 101.1 was relaying KBRD now? I heard them last August on White Pass mixed with KXL. They were having technical issues, playing the same ~1 min of a 1940s instrumental over and over.
I thought 101.1 was relaying KBRD now? I heard them last August on White Pass mixed with KXL. They were having technical issues, playing the same ~1 min of a 1940s instrumental over and over.
Face it folks, while you may or may not like the music mix, this is a hobby group that is intentionally operating outside of a number of FCC Regulations, with false statements to the FCC. My hope is that one of these days, the feds will catch up to what they've been doing for years. My primary gripe is that we play by the rules and pay our numerous $$$ to the FCC and the music licensing folks and the FCC apparently squanders it in areas other than enforcement.
Remember, there's no "they" there. It's primarily one person with his hobby.
Regardless of ownership claims on the FCC records, Grays Harbor LPFM and NW Rock'n'Roll Preservation Society are substantially one and the same.
Funny how that works these days, doesn't it? We had a separate discussion on the many false applications and inappropriate ownership of LPFM's across the country at the LPFM board.