According to the Washington Secretary of State, the LPFM and translator each have a person on their boards who have different first names, but the same last name, and at one time shared the same address in Lacey, WA. That address is now the mailing address for "Grays Harbor LP FM" and was the registered agent address for the "NORTHWEST ROCK N ROLL PRESERVATION SOCIETY" organization.
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K225DC 92.9 (KGTK?) contact help appreciated.
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Digging deep into my memory now, I seem to recall that KISW was being rebroadcast on 101.1 (when they were formerly using that frequency). I just assumed they had an antenna up at capital peak that was aimed towards Aberdeen to pick up KGHO on 99.9 (as opposed to a proper STL), and somehow the antenna got turned north. It seems like a crazy scenario that could never happen to any other broadcaster.
"NORTHWEST ROCK N ROLL PRESERVATION SOCIETY" owns K224DR (circa June 2004) which fully encompasses the coverage area of KGHO-LP (circa Nov 2004).
According to Page 13 of Form 318 (link) regarding the FCC's policy regarding immediate family members (i.e., husband, wife, father, mother, sister, brother, son and/or daughter), an LPFM applicant must submit an explanation regarding the business or media relationship involved between family members who own another station whose coverage area encompasses the LPFM's coverage.
As far as I can tell, that explanation is not included (link) in the 2004 LPFM application regarding the existing translator (regardless of who it rebroadcasts). That's assuming the shared last name and address is not a coincidence.
You must file an explanation if your LPFM is within the contour of family member's station as follows:
According to Page 13 of Form 318 (link) regarding the FCC's policy regarding immediate family members (i.e., husband, wife, father, mother, sister, brother, son and/or daughter), an LPFM applicant must submit an explanation regarding the business or media relationship involved between family members who own another station whose coverage area encompasses the LPFM's coverage.
As far as I can tell, that explanation is not included (link) in the 2004 LPFM application regarding the existing translator (regardless of who it rebroadcasts). That's assuming the shared last name and address is not a coincidence.
You must file an explanation if your LPFM is within the contour of family member's station as follows:
- 2 mV/m contour for AM stations;
- 1 mV/m (60 dBu) for FM stations, FM translators and boosters;
- Grade A contour for TV stations, TV translators and LPTV.
Actually, "NORTHWEST ROCK N ROLL PRESERVATION SOCIETY" didn't exist until 2010. So there was either no existing licensee for 6 years (of the conflicting K224DR), or there is a separate "NORTHWEST ROCK N ROLL PRESERVATION SOCIETY" that existed as an unincorporated entity or existed under the laws of another state besides Washington or Oregon.
I think there are different rules for translators relaying AM stations, but by law, commercial band translators must be fed off the air. Up at Capitol Peak or anywhere up that high close to a Seattle signal, I could easily see how KISW could be picked up and relayed on 101.1, assuming they are being fed legally. If I understand the rules correctly, it's ethically questionable, but completely legal to chain multiple translators together to extend your station's range. Therefore, it's entirely possible that the 101.1 translator was being fed by 92.7, and was feeding 104.1 Tacoma. If this were the case, then 92.7 would be relaying 99.9, which if KGHO were off the air, would be KISW. It's also my understanding that if the parent signal is lost that the translator should go off the air, but I'm not sure it's even possible for receivers to distinguish between signals and shut down the translator if the wrong signal is detected.
fm translatos for AM stations dont have to be fed over the air
ill in translators, within a stations 60 dbu can be fed however they want.
And never mind alaska.. whole different ball o wax.
Ive got a translator down the road in my small tiny village on 94.3 thats been fed by satellite for 30 plus years.. legally.
If they were indeed feeding the translator on Capitol peak from an over-the-air signal, then they probably were using a directional yagi antenna pointed towards Aberdeen. The much stronger signal would definitely overpower the KGHO if they went off air (or if the antenna got turned by mistake). Either way, it seems like a lot can go wrong if this is indeed how the translators are linked.
I noticed this STA filing today (5/9) for K225DC:
"ATTACHMENT In compliance with sections 74.1233 c , 74.1236, and 74.1251, NWRR respectfully requests permission to reduce power and broadcast from our licensed facility at an ERP of 10 watts effective immediately (6) , for a period of time not to exceed sixth months. NWRR needs to do maintenance work and make technical corrections to this facility. The public will be better served with this station at reduced power, as opposed to being off the air . NWRR’s plan to restore to licensed operating power includes re pair or replacement of transmi ssion cable."
enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov
Normally the station is 100 watts directional ERP. The request is in "Pending" status.
"ATTACHMENT In compliance with sections 74.1233 c , 74.1236, and 74.1251, NWRR respectfully requests permission to reduce power and broadcast from our licensed facility at an ERP of 10 watts effective immediately (6) , for a period of time not to exceed sixth months. NWRR needs to do maintenance work and make technical corrections to this facility. The public will be better served with this station at reduced power, as opposed to being off the air . NWRR’s plan to restore to licensed operating power includes re pair or replacement of transmi ssion cable."
Draft Copy « Licensing and Management System « FCC
Licensing and Management System
Normally the station is 100 watts directional ERP. The request is in "Pending" status.
The KBRD website says they are on 101.1 FM, and it's mentioned that the translator is a service of NW Rock N Roll Preservation, as well as the Rodeo Drive-In.
K266BM's lasts construction permit(s) for expanded coverage towards Shelton proposed to use multiple log-periodic beams. A look back at the paperwork chain shows the construction permits expired on 25 February with the License to Cover still sitting with the FCC as"pending". While I am not a lawyer, would not having an approved L2C mean K266BM would have to revert to the license/approved single beam antenna pointed northeast? Of course, the whole thing is bogus anyway if it's now relaying an unfiled source signal, KBRD, and not KGTK.
The clock is taking anyway for 92.9. Once KVNW launches, K225DC goes away and thus any linking to the source Hoquiam LPFM. NWRRP's RF chain to the Tacoma area thus falls apart.
The clock is taking anyway for 92.9. Once KVNW launches, K225DC goes away and thus any linking to the source Hoquiam LPFM. NWRRP's RF chain to the Tacoma area thus falls apart.
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You're confusing 101.1 with 92.9. Two totally different entities. KBRD has the 101.1 frequency and listening will show that it is in fact the originating station for 101.1.
I believe the reference to "NW R N Roll Preservation" and "Rodeo Drive-In" has nothing to do with ownership or licensing. Unless someone has facts to the contrary.
Bill,
The Northwest rock n roll preservation society is listed as the owner of K266BM 101.1
Your are correct that is what the FCC site shows... NW Rock n Roll Preservation Society. The FCC site also shows KBRD as owned by Prairie Winds Broadcasting, which is based in South Dakota. At the same time the KBRD website shows Licensee as BJ & Skip's for the Music.
And last week, I listened to 101.1 and it was still simulcasting KBRD, with the music that Skip played when he was still with us.
And last week, I listened to 101.1 and it was still simulcasting KBRD, with the music that Skip played when he was still with us.
You mean, it's a 'ghost station'??đź‘»
FCC's CDBS database is no longer used or updated... fccinfo.com and fcc lms show both 101.1 and KBRD seperately owned and correctly.
Yep, that's what LMS shows ownership-wise, but the K266BM database shows originating station KGHO-LP, but actually, K266BM is actually repeating KBRD. No matter how you slice and dice it, there are irregularities beginning a number of years ago, all related to Grays Harbor LPFM, NW Rock n Roll Preservation Society, etc. As long as the Commission doesn't sweep in and knock on the door at 2707 Judd, Brian's continuing to have fun with himself and his handful of followers.
Meanwhile, the legal broadcasters continue to pay the FCC millions of dollars while the hobbyists run amuck with fake educational institutions.
Meanwhile, the legal broadcasters continue to pay the FCC millions of dollars while the hobbyists run amuck with fake educational institutions.
Some of these sound better than the legal broadcasters. To honest about it.
Also, didn’t someone else run a “fake educational institution”. Not gonna name anyone specific.
That was a topic on the LPFM discussion forum on this site that brought to light, many examples of original LPFM applications which could have been considered fraudulent. Technically to become an LPFM licensee, the backing organization essentially falls under the category same as an NCE (Non-Commercial Educational). In other words; a school, not just a non-profit organization. The assumption is; the licensee would use the LPFM either to educate the general public with something other than playing their personal music collection, or would have an established teaching curriculum teaching radio/media through use of the LPFM.
It's been revealed that several of these LPFM owners cooked-up fake educational organizations, only registered with their local state (or not at all), to get through the LPFM filing window.
I suspect a "Rock and Roll Preservation Society" would fall under this category.
With the current situation enforcement practices of the FCC, many LPFM’s essentially have carte blanche to do whatever they please. The only real “enforcement” is the hard backhand slap of reality that comes with the responsibility of owning and operating a LPFM. Unless the operator is independently wealthy, one can assume that the station might have a limited lifespan. Of course, there are plenty of examples of LP’s that are operated successfully (due to good management). With that being said, there are examples of all sorts of poorly managed radio stations, both large and small. KBOO in Portland comes to mind as an example of a large station that has experienced significant management issues, becoming a real-life lord of the flies.
www.portlandmercury.com
I’m not sure what the exact mission statement for the rock and roll preservation society is, but I will admit that their programming is interesting and probably more entertaining than KBOO.
Perhaps I will start my own charity, The Human Fund, and use that to break into the LP world. The Human Fund: radio for people.
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I’m not sure what the exact mission statement for the rock and roll preservation society is, but I will admit that their programming is interesting and probably more entertaining than KBOO.
Perhaps I will start my own charity, The Human Fund, and use that to break into the LP world. The Human Fund: radio for people.