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House Members Tackle Concert Ticket Debacle

The current congressional investigation in this thread is a completely different kind of action, seeking to regulate how the company interacts with consumers. That door is always open, and can be pursued regardless of the motivation.
Bad customer service, and parents butt-hurt because their little darlings are still upset about not being able to attend the Taylor Swift concert means maybe; someone from Ticketmaster gets called to answer congressional questions from Congresspeople who think they're being clever by working in song lyrics to their questions. Worst case, the testimony is carried on CSPAN, so few are actually watching. Congressperson feigns outrage, scolding the Ticketmaster executive that they shouldn't be gouging the public...blah blah. Ticketmaster executive heads for the Ticketmaster Gulfstream V sitting on the tarmac in Manassas after lunch, wheels-up, and they're back home in time for evening sun-downers.
 
Ticketmaster executive heads for the Ticketmaster Gulfstream V sitting on the tarmac in Manassas after lunch, wheels-up, and they're back home in time for evening sun-downers.

I think you're misreading the mood on the hill. Both parties don't like big business, whether it's big tech or big music.

My view is the proposed legislation isn't tough enough and doesn't really address the problem.
 
I think you're misreading the mood on the hill. Both parties don't like big business, whether it's big tech or big music.
But all they're empowered to do is ask questions of Ticketmaster reps, and get on camera ranting about how outraged they are. One needs to look no further than the various 'testimony' from social media company reps. Feigned outrage, accusations of political bias, privacy concerns, and ignorant questions from Congresspeople that ended up as memes.

Even if Congress sent a referral to the DOJ, it will take literally years to investigate. By that time, who knows what the state of the entertainment business will look like? And all this time, you'll still be frustrated trying to buy tickets to sporting events.
My view is the proposed legislation isn't tough enough and doesn't really address the problem.
And that's because you're still upset at your experience with Ticketmaster?
 
In an effort to avoid legislation, Ticketmaster volunteers to show all fees:


"Starting in September, Live Nation will automatically list all of the prices up front for all tickets to events at more than 200 venues of its own, benefiting more than 30 million customers," Biden said. "It will give customers the option for an all-in price for all other tickets sold on its platform."
 
This should apply to all businesses and not just entertainment.
Particularly hotel room rates, airline fares and nearly everything related to travel. Add in cable tv and Internet service providers who have page after page of separate charges.

In most of these cases, the seller wants the buyer to know that much of the cost is caused by local, state and national government fees and not corporate greed. I see their point.
 
In most of these cases, the seller wants the buyer to know that much of the cost is caused by local, state and national government fees and not corporate greed. I see their point.
Sure, if that was relevant to TicketMaster, I'd see their point.

I just priced tickets to see "Hamilton" in Chicago (not usually a tax haven) this fall. Ticket's face value was $70. TicketMaster fees were $17.50 per seat, plus $5.00 per order. Tax was $1.40 per seat (2%).

Hotels are a great example of the opposite. A sales tax of 15%-20% on hotel rooms is common because cities see tourists as people who won't complain about paying tax.
 
In an effort to avoid legislation, Ticketmaster volunteers to show all fees:
As great as this sounds, it only applies to venues owned/operated by Live Nation. Ticketmaster indicates for other venues it will depend on the venue opting in to participate in this. I’m not sure what % of Ticketmaster ticket sales are for venues not owned by Live Nation. But most if not all Taylor Swift dates at stadiums are venues not owned by Live Nation
 
The issue for the Taylor Swift tour wasn't the price and hidden fees, but the Ticketmaster site itself crashing.
Here's probably a rhetorical question: What qualifies someone as "Verified Fan"-status:

"Yesterday, Ticketmaster took the unusual step of commenting publicly on the situation, explaining that two million people registered in advance for its Verified Fan program, which normally helps “manage the volume coming into the site” during a major on-sale. “However, this time the staggering number of bot attacks as well as fans who didn’t have invite codes drove unprecedented traffic on our site, resulting in 3.5 billion total system requests -– 4x our previous peak,” the company said."

Assume that's what they called the pre-sale period when their website got overloaded?
 
Way for Congress to zero in on the what matters most.

Of course, should you get tickets to whatever concert at whatever price, one party is adamantly determined to ensure that if you're shot there, oh well, that's freedom from the big bad gubment. But damn, if you paid too much for the ticket fees? Now that's something we cannot abide and the big bad gubment is suddenly your friend, so won't you give me money and re-elect me?
 
Assume that's what they called the pre-sale period when their website got overloaded?

No, the pre-sale period was when they signed up as verified fans. The website got overloaded for the actual sale. All of these people had gone through the pre-sale period, become verified fans, and when it counted, couldn't get through.

But damn, if you paid too much for the ticket fees? Now that's something we cannot abide and the big bad gubment is suddenly your friend, so won't you give me money and re-elect me?

The issue isn't paying too much, but not knowing what those fees are. Non-disclosure is a problem. So Ticketmaster is taking it upon themself to provide that information, as an attempt to avoid regulation. Something they really should have done it all along.
 
The latest, this time from the senate:

Senators Introduce ‘Fans First’ Bill Intended to Reform Live-Event Ticketing System​

U.S. Senators John Cornyn (R-TX), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Marsha Blackburn (R-TN), Ben Ray Luján (D-NM), Roger Wicker (R-MS), and Peter Welch (D-VT) have introduced the Fans First Act, which would help “address flaws in the current live event ticketing system by increasing transparency in ticket sales, protecting consumers from fake or dramatically overpriced tickets, and holding bad actors who engage in illegal ticket sale practices accountable,” according to the announcement.

The act is the latest initiative by the senators, who have led Congress’ efforts to combat high and exploitative ticket pricing for concerts and other live-entertainment events. Since the ticketing system moved online over the past dozen years, it has become ripe for abuse, with scalpers and bots quickly acquiring thousands of tickets and reselling them for astronomical prices, leaving fans little choice but to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars above the list price in order to attend concerts. The situation became exceptionally heated in 2022 when Bruce Springsteen and Taylor Swift tour tickets went on sale and prices almost immediately soared to thousands of dollars.
 
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