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WBWL Upgrade / WWBB Downgrade
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Except it used to sometimes show up in the lower end of the Boston ratings, from people listening just south (and west) of Boston.
Since the downgrade it can only be heard much closer to RI. It hasn’t shown up in the Boston ratings since then.
No WBWL presence in the Providence book, however, but WKLB continues to peel share away from WCTK. Are there areas of the Providence metro in which 'KLB is stronger than 'CTK or are the two stations taking a different approach to the format (playlist tweaking, or gold/current ratio, for example)?
So? Boston numbers don't mean jack shite to a providence station, really.
B101 has been very strong lately in Providence. Traveling up I-95, the signal gets lost at North Attleboro. It still blankets areas due south of Providence, but does have some trouble as you approach southwestern RI, particularly past Hope Valley. If they were still a full Class B, it would be interesting to see their ratings that would presumably include New Bedford. There's a translator on 101.3 in New Bedford now that plays classic hits, effectively knocking out 101.5. B101 could be #1!
Unfortunately, WWBB could never reverse its power decrease as there are several stations/translators on 101.3/101.5/101.7, especially toward the north. The other Providence Class Bs could make it up to the NH border; WWBB barely makes it past Woonsocket.
In terms of WCTK/WKLB, WCTK does lose a bit of signal to the north and west of I-295 in NW Rhode Island as their tower is in New Bedford. They still effectively cover a solid 98% or so of the population of the market, so it should not be very limiting in terms of ratings. WCTK also gets some consistent listenership on the South Shore. Perhaps country listeners are willing to listen to a more distant signal for what they want? Kind of like in the rock/AOR heyday, when one (like me) would try to pull WBCN, WAAF, WHJY, WBRU, WCCC, and WHCN all from home, to get the different "flavors" they would each program.
Jacko
Unfortunately, WWBB could never reverse its power decrease as there are several stations/translators on 101.3/101.5/101.7, especially toward the north. The other Providence Class Bs could make it up to the NH border; WWBB barely makes it past Woonsocket.
In terms of WCTK/WKLB, WCTK does lose a bit of signal to the north and west of I-295 in NW Rhode Island as their tower is in New Bedford. They still effectively cover a solid 98% or so of the population of the market, so it should not be very limiting in terms of ratings. WCTK also gets some consistent listenership on the South Shore. Perhaps country listeners are willing to listen to a more distant signal for what they want? Kind of like in the rock/AOR heyday, when one (like me) would try to pull WBCN, WAAF, WHJY, WBRU, WCCC, and WHCN all from home, to get the different "flavors" they would each program.
Jacko
The translators dont really matter, full power stations can bump them off. But Unless Providence has a major gain in population and the Boston markets loses a bunch of people the return of WWBB to B status wont even be considered.
Brilliant idea to put the WRCA repeater and the Bloomberg's Newburyport repeater both on 106.1, both carrying Bloomberg. Where I live in the Merrimack Valley, NEITHER one comes in clearly enough, and, despite what they say about the "FM capture effect", I can sometimes hear both, with a slight delay between the two. So, I deleted 106.1 from my presets and tune to 1330 AM when I want Bloomberg.
And now you tell me that there's a 106.1 on The Cape. I have a few words on this, but they're not allowed here.
In my car I get that 106.1 repeater from Boston all the way to Dracut and sometimes into Pelham.
The Newburyport one has never had great coverage, but remember they had 106.3 on a tower in Hudson NH, , 106.1 across the water on the Cape, and IIRC there was something in Maine that was involved in the equation.
I will say when it was owned by Port Broadcasting,the Newburyport translator on 106.1 covered the area around Newburyport and over to 95 very well.
Bloomberg paid a lot of money ( $1,000,000!) to get that Port Broadcasting repeater and WNBP AM from Pete Falconi and friends, because it gave them a lot of coverage on one frequency when paired with the leased frequency and associated repeater of Beasley's WRCA
The Newburyport one has never had great coverage, but remember they had 106.3 on a tower in Hudson NH, , 106.1 across the water on the Cape, and IIRC there was something in Maine that was involved in the equation.
I will say when it was owned by Port Broadcasting,the Newburyport translator on 106.1 covered the area around Newburyport and over to 95 very well.
Bloomberg paid a lot of money ( $1,000,000!) to get that Port Broadcasting repeater and WNBP AM from Pete Falconi and friends, because it gave them a lot of coverage on one frequency when paired with the leased frequency and associated repeater of Beasley's WRCA
If you can provide more detail such as location, the extent of the delay etc., I can let the Bloomberg engineers know, they put a lot of effort into making the signal as synchronized as possible. The signal path to the Hancock translator was changed a while back and maybe there's a latency change that is causing a problem.
Bloomberg has another repeater/FMt for WNBP on 92.1 in Topsfield
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The 106.1 on the Cape is iHeart’s 50,000 watt WCOD, Hyannis with a Hot AC format. It came on the air (under its original owners) in 1967, many years before FM translators were an idea.
These are both translators....which were never intended for covering wide swaths or geography.
Would it be fair to guess you are inside the null....and not even within the purple area?
The map isn't detailed enough, but I'm EITHER right on that purple contour, OR just outside of it, between Lawrence and Lowell.
Gee, I wonder if THEY have a few words to say about all this, which cannot be repeated (!) here. 🤭
Thank you, I haven't listened in a while (several months), less so now that the local afternoon show has disappeared. I'll have to try again.
The 92.5 tower in Haverhill where the Newburyport 106.1 antenna supposedly resides is pretty tall. The antenna on the Hancock would not be of much help at all.
Only the red contour, and, in fact, the area slightly inside it, is where 95% of ratings credits come from. The outer two contours are not relevant to actual usage of stations.
Which, I assume, is why the owners of the station carried on those translators have never complained about WCOD, nor has WCOD complained about the translators, correct? The presence of WCOD and the translators on the same frequency has no impact on the bottom line of the operators of either?
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