Disney Sells 1110 KRDC to KWVE Owner Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa

[speer360]

Now K256CX 99.1 Pasadena shins be broadcasting it too.

 

[Michael Rivers Kramer]

Whos gonna be listening to this KWVE-FM on 1110 AM? I can't imagine many and have to think the thinking here is their minds tell them "region wide coverage means the entire region will be listening".. kinda like that christian prepper on another thread who thought he had something unique worth starting a brand new shortwave station and everyone owuld listen because it was available worldwide

It’s funny. They equate signal reach with coverage. I guess the signal passing through our bodies counts.

 

[Daryl Lynn L.A.]

Pasadena's 1110 has to protect KFAB, and WBT. Night power is 20 kW. Back in the day it was only 10 kW. At that time KRLA 1110 had to operate night time with 10 kW because then 20 kW was not a permitted power level and to use 25 kW would have created interference. Back then permitted powers for AM were 100, 250, 500, 2500, 5000, 10000, 25000, and 50000. Stations would not be authorized to use powers in between those points. The rules has since changed.

Thank you !! You always provide clear, understandable information in response to technical questions and transmission questions. Much appreciated.

 

[davideduardo]

1110 is a storied frequency in Los Angeles, owing to KRLA's 40 year run as one of the biggest rockers in town, in an era when rock music was everything. Sept. 1, 1959 they switched from KXLA country to Top 40. They had a powerful 50,000 watt daytime signal, but they had to cut their power at night, for some reason.

KFAB Omaha, one of two 1-B (former) clear channel stations on 1110.

 

[Loverofradio]

I was born and raised in L.A., and I‘ve never heard of kwave or 107.9. How has Audacy/94.7 The Wave not sent a cease and desist yet?

 

[TomásEstefan]

I was born and raised in L.A., and I‘ve never heard of kwave or 107.9. How has Audacy/94.7 The Wave not sent a cease and desist yet?

I might be wrong but I think KWVE was using the term "Wave" long before 94.7. DavidE may be able to clarify. The original call letters were KAPX owing to the fact they are at the top of the FM dial 107.9. I think at that time the station played elevator music ("Beautiful" music) before they went religious. Way back then I remember being able to receive it in the SFV. The station at that time ran a lower elevation equivalent to max Class B (50 kW at 500 ft HAAT). When they went to Santiago Pk at around 5000 ft with only about 500 W the signal died in the SFV and some of the LA Basin too. Dumb move unless the objective was to reach at least a little of the IE.

 

[Ryan Williams]

I might be wrong but I think KWVE was using the term "Wave" long before 94.7. DavidE may be able to clarify. The original call letters were KAPX owing to the fact they are at the top of the FM dial 107.9. I think at that time the station played elevator music ("Beautiful" music) before they went religious. Way back then I remember being able to receive it in the SFV. The station at that time ran a lower elevation equivalent to max Class B (50 kW at 500 ft HAAT). When they went to Santiago Pk at around 5000 ft with only about 500 W the signal died in the SFV and some of the LA Basin too. Dumb move unless the objective was to reach at least a little of the IE.

The move to Santiago has been very successful for K—Wave.

Also you are correct, KWVE predates KTWV.

 

[DrAkbar]

Pasadena's 1110 has to protect KFAB, and WBT. Night power is 20 kW. Back in the day it was only 10 kW. At that time KRLA 1110 had to operate night time with 10 kW because then 20 kW was not a permitted power level and to use 25 kW would have created interference.

KFAB has always been the 900lb gorilla on 11~Ten. WBT sends darned near little RF at night toward the west. KFAB sends a fair amount of RF at night to the southwest, resulting in KRLA (now KWVE-AM) having to pull it in and miss the IE. Rockers KHJ & KFWB didn't have that problem at night.

 

[TomásEstefan]

KFAB has always been the 900lb gorilla on 11~Ten. WBT sends darned near little RF at night toward the west. KFAB sends a fair amount of RF at night to the southwest, resulting in KRLA (now KWVE-AM) having to pull it in and miss the IE. Rockers KHJ & KFWB didn't have that problem at night.

Oddly in my DX years way back when in the SFV, I never heard KFAB, only WBT! BTW it's doubtful that there were any significant number of listeners to 'WB or KHJ in the IE at night as co-channel interference would be excessive. Out here in the far west SFV back then as now KFWB at night is essentially unlistenable, there isjust too much co-channel. KHJ is especially weak now since they moved their facility from Fairfax to Echo Park di-plexing off of 1580. Their 5 kW Night DA beam is aimed away from the SFV and the IE.

 

[Mark Roberts]

KFAB has always been the 900lb gorilla on 11~Ten. WBT sends darned near little RF at night toward the west. KFAB sends a fair amount of RF at night to the southwest, resulting in KRLA (now KWVE-AM) having to pull it in and miss the IE. Rockers KHJ & KFWB didn't have that problem at night.

KFAB and WBT were I-Bs - they had to protect each other but otherwise were afforded protection from others.

KFAB came in well in Kansas City in the window between Kansas City sunset and Omaha sunset (often 15 minutes or so). Then, a Omaha local sunset, poof! ... and nothing usable on 1110. Kansas City is SSE of Omaha.

The coverage map generated at fccdata.org indicates that KFAB should be receivable in Topeka (Kansas) and maybe even in Lawrence. But the Kansas City metro itself definitely is in the null.

 

[Mediafrog+]

KFAB has always been the 900lb gorilla on 11~Ten. WBT sends darned near little RF at night toward the west.

The only time I’ve heard WBT here in Texas was just after Charlotte sunrise when they were on the non-directional day pattern with critical hours skywave.

KFAB sends a fair amount of RF at night to the southwest,

In the 1960s and 70s KFAB would always put a good, interference-free signal into North and Central Texas. At some point in the 1980s the 1110 in Mexico City reengineered its signal, creating a clash.

 

[radiofan2023]

KFAB and WBT were I-Bs - they had to protect each other but otherwise were afforded protection from others.

KFAB came in well in Kansas City in the window between Kansas City sunset and Omaha sunset (often 15 minutes or so). Then, a Omaha local sunset, poof! ... and nothing usable on 1110. Kansas City is SSE of Omaha.

The coverage map generated at fccdata.org indicates that KFAB should be receivable in Topeka (Kansas) and maybe even in Lawrence. But the Kansas City metro itself definitely is in the null.

I’ve heard KFAB rarely in KC at night

 

[TomásEstefan]

Pasadena's 1110 has to protect KFAB, and WBT. Night power is 20 kW. Back in the day it was only 10 kW. At that time KRLA 1110 had to operate night time with 10 kW because then 20 kW was not a permitted power level and to use 25 kW would have created interference. Back then permitted powers for AM were 100, 250, 500, 2500, 5000, 10000, 25000, and 50000. Stations would not be authorized to use powers in between those points. The rules has since changed.

Just realized i left out 1000 Watts as a permitted power...oops!

 

[30james]

I was born and raised in L.A., and I‘ve never heard of kwave or 107.9. How has Audacy/94.7 The Wave not sent a cease and desist yet?

Because ktwv let people know the station wasn't kwve. They even provided their phone number when people called in ktwv.

 

[30james]

Because ktwv let people know the station wasn't kwve. They even provided their phone number when people called in ktwv.

They also provided info about kwve by handing out brochures at their remote broadcast

 

[30james]

I was born and raised in L.A., and I‘ve never heard of kwave or 107.9. How has Audacy/94.7 The Wave not sent a cease and desist yet?

Correction kwve would hand out information about ktwv when people would call in to the station thinking it was ktwv.

 

[Gregg.]

K-Wave began using the KWVE call letters in 1977 as a beautiful music station, not yet owned by Calvary Chapel. KTWV debuted in 1987.

Maybe KWVE should have registered an objection. But I suppose being a small operation, management was not as sensitive to marketing factors. CBS Radio got to call its New Age station "94.7 The Wave." It didn't need lawyers to defend the moniker.

So now, Los Angeles radio listeners can hear national brokered Christian radio shows on several stations. All have hosts such as Alistair Begg, David Jeremiah, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren, even Charles Stanley who died this spring but his show keeps running.

--1110 KRDC - 107.9 KWVE "K-Wave" (Calvary Chapel)

--99.5 KKLA-FM (Salem)

--740 KBRT "K-Brite" (Crawford Broadcasting)

BTW, 1280 KFRN Long Beach is also a Christian station. But Family Radio plays mostly music or has its own hosts. It does run a few of the national preaching shows, such as John MacArthur and Alistair Begg.

 

[TomásEstefan]

K-Wave began using the KWVE call letters in 1977 as a beautiful music station, not yet owned by Calvary Chapel. KTWV debuted in 1987.

Maybe KWVE should have registered an objection. But I suppose being a small operation, management was not as sensitive to marketing factors. CBS Radio got to call its New Age station "94.7 The Wave." It didn't need lawyers to defend the moniker.

So now, Los Angeles radio listeners can hear national brokered Christian radio shows on several stations. All have hosts such as Alistair Begg, David Jeremiah, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren, even Charles Stanley who died this spring but his show keeps running.

--1110 KRDC - 107.9 KWVE "K-Wave" (Calvary Chapel)

--99.5 KKLA-FM (Salem)

--740 KBRT "K-Brite" (Crawford Broadcasting)

BTW, 1280 KFRN Long Beach is also a Christian station. But Family Radio plays mostly music or has its own hosts. It does run a few of the national preaching shows, such as John MacArthur and Alistair Begg.

You might as well add Salem's KRLA 870 to the mix ...it may be officially political talk but it reeks of Evangelicalism.. After all the "name" of their political operations is called: "The Answer". During weekdays they sell a certain former politician as "the Answer", and on weekends they sell "snake oil" as the "nswer" to what ails you.

 

[davideduardo]

You might as well add Salem's KRLA 870 to the mix ...it may be officially political talk but it reeks of Evangelicalism.. After all the "name" of their political operations is called: "The Answer". During weekdays they sell a certain former politician as "the Answer", and on weekends they sell "snake oil" as the "nswer" to what ails you.

And also add 930 AM, 1460 AM and Spanish language 1390 AM as Christian and religious stations.

P.S. I find snake oil is a great lubricant for the fans in my computer.

 

[Mark Roberts]

So now, Los Angeles radio listeners can hear national brokered Christian radio shows on several stations. All have hosts such as Alistair Begg, David Jeremiah, Joyce Meyer, Rick Warren, even Charles Stanley who died this spring but his show keeps running.

J. Vernon McGee's broadcasts continue...even though he passed on in...1988.